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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Bob,</p>
<p>My maiden surname is MANSELL but my 3xG Grandpa (who Ive discovered was born in Newent 1801 and were leather workers )spelled his surname MANSEL his daughter spelled her name Mansell. </p>
<p>Mansell is I think often derived from Cell mans or people that came over from Le Mans with the Duke of Normandy. I think that spellings weren't settled until much later so it would be worth looking at both variations to see if there is a crossover with two people in the same family group spelling their name differently.<br />
Good luck and let me know how you get on.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry it's taken me so long to see this..thanks for taking the time to answer. It's very much appreciated</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry it;s taken two years to get round to seeing this! Thanks very much for your reply and suggestions. <br />
Much appreciated</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for my bad manners in not checking for replies. Really appreciate your comments. Will read and digest</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catharine MANSEL buried at Newland 6 November 1829, (Widow) aged 76 (=c 1753)</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marriage at Newland: 11 May 1785</p>
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Thomas MOUSEL of Newland</p>
<p>Kitty PEMBRIDGE of Newland  (assume Catherine)   **</p>
<p>by banns</p>
<p>witnesses: John EVANS and Sarah CONSTANT</p>
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*** ? Ancestry, baptism at Llancillo, Hereford, 28 March 1756, Catherine PEMBRIDGE, parents: Edward &amp; Elizabeth</p>
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<p>Ancestry:</p>
<p>Baptd 28 November 1790</p>
<p>Willm son of Thos &amp; Catharine MOUFEL (Clearwell)</p>
<p><br />
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?<br />
Baptism at Newland</p>
<p>30 August 1752</p>
<p>Thomas MOUSEL, parents: Thomas &amp; Elizabeth (Clearwell)</p>
<p><br />
BT's state surname as <strong>MANSEL</strong></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris, <br />
thanks for reminding me abt this post which I did look into but admittedly forgot about. Belated but heartfelt welcome to the forum Bob, and my sincere apologies for not replying !. We hope you gain lots from the forum as well as all the other excellent resources elsewhere on this FoD FH website.</p>
<p>Ref Clearwell, don't forget that like so many other Churches in the Forest, Clearwell's wasn't built until long after the 1790s, hence Newland was the only real choice available in the western FoD at that time, plus of course it's very near Clearwell village.</p>
<p>Bob, <br />
I preume you mean this PR from this site's database ?.</p>
<p>Record_ID: 391733<br />
Entry_Number: <br />
Year: 1790<br />
Month: Nov<br />
Day: 28<br />
Parents_Surname: MOUSEL<br />
Child_Forenames: William<br />
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas<br />
Mothers_Forenames: Catharine<br />
Mothers_Surname: <br />
Residence: Clearwell<br />
Occupation: <br />
Officiating_Minister: <br />
Event: Baptism<br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: Any abbreviated forenames have been expanded to the full name<br />
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/4<br />
Page_Number: 800<br />
Parish_Chapel: Newland<br />
Soundex: M240</p>
<p>Bob, have you viewed the actual photographic image of the Parish Record which is perhaps on Ancestry ?.  Also, have you submitted a request for the transcription to be checked ?.<br />
<a href="http://www.forest-of-dean.net/joomla/help-faq/database-correction-request-form">http://www.forest-of-dean.net/joomla/help-faq/database-correction-request-form</a></p>
<p>I ask as I'm currently unable to access Ancestry so cannot view the PR if it's there, but it seems that it isn't the easiest to read.  I see a slight discrepancy between this FoD site's transcription and that on Familysearch which contains a few spelling variations including spelling his surname with two &quot;l&quot;s.  </p>
<p>Name  William Mousell<br />
Gender  Male<br />
Christening Date  28 Nov 1790<br />
Christening Date (Original)  28 NOV 1790<br />
Christening Place  NEWLAND,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND<br />
Father's Name  Thos Mousell<br />
Mother's Name  Cathere</p>
<p>???</p>
<p>-------</p>
<p>Altho you are indeed currect regarding the high likelihood of spelling variations and errors due to strong dialects and poor literacy skills, which sometimes also included members of the clergy as well as the locals, personally I'm not convinced that Mansell and Mousell could be one of these such names.  To my mind they sound different, but then again I don't know just how capable the clergy cleric was at the time, or even how good his hearing or memory was !<br />
I guess almost anything is possible in this respect.</p>
<p>Have you found William Mousell b1790 in the 1841 etc Census ?. Or maybe some of his relatives, or indeed other Clearwell Mousells ?.  Have any of these been transcribed as Mansell, or vice versa ?<br />
This might enable you to gain an insight into the accuracy of the PRs for this surname at that time, perhaps variations were not uncommon.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bob</p>
<p>You haven't had any replies, so you may have slipped under the radar!</p>
<p>I can't answer your question regarding Mousell and Mansell, but I have found this baptism which may be of interest? You will see that the baptism was in Newland but the couple lived in CLEARWELL.</p>
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Record_ID: 392284<br />
Entry_Number: <br />
Year: 1796<br />
Month: Mar<br />
Day: 20<br />
Parents_Surname: MOUSELL<br />
Child_Forenames: Maria<br />
Fathers_Forenames: William<br />
Mothers_Forenames: Hannah<br />
Mothers_Surname: <br />
Residence: Clearwell<br />
Occupation: <br />
Officiating_Minister: <br />
Event: Baptism<br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/4<br />
Page_Number: 841<br />
Parish_Chapel: Newland<br />
Soundex: M240</p>
<p>May or may not be connected!</p>
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Regards<br />
Chris</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello. My first posting here.</p>
<p>My mother's family were Mansells. Real foresters.</p>
<p>I've traced back with certainty to William Mansell from Clements Green (near Clearwell) who registered as a Freeminer in 1838. He was born on November 17, 1790.</p>
<p>But the only potential reference I've found so far is a William who was baptised at Newland Church on Nov 28, 1790 but the spelling may well be Mousell rather than Mansell.</p>
<p>Is it possible that, given the Forest accent and the fact that some miners couldn't read or write, that Mousell may have been corrupted to Mansell?</p>
<p>Is it a workable theory? Because if it is,  then I can take the Mousells back to the 1600s..</p>
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Thoughts welcome.</p>
<p>(Bob Walker)</p>
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