Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Elizabeth MORSE nee DAVIES c1860 -1942 Pillowell candidate

Elizabeth MORSE nee DAVIES c1860 -1942 Pillowell candidate (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 11 May 2023 12:55:19 +0000

1861 Pillowell
William Davies Head Married Male 51 1810 Coal miner Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Elizabeth Davies Wife Married Female 49 1812 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
William Davies Son Unmarried Male 21 1840 Coal miner West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Ann Davies Daughter Unmarried Female 19 1842 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Emma Davies Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1847 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Ellen Davies Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1849 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth Davies Granddaughter Unmarried Female 1 1860 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England

1871 Bream Eaves
William Davis Head - Male 58 1813 - Monmouthshire, Wales
Elizabeth Davis Wife - Female 59 1812 - Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Herbert Son-in-law - Male 23 1848 - Gloucestershire, England
Ellen Herbert Daughter - Female 20 1851 - Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth Davis Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Gloucestershire, England
Sarah E Herbert Daughter-in-law - Female 0 1871 - Gloucestershire, England

Year: 1942
Month: Feb
Day: 11
Surname: MORSE
Forenames: Elizabeth
Residence: Bream
Age_at_death: 81
Officiating_Minister: Arthur M. Parr
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/18
Page_No: 87
Parish_Chapel: Bream

Jesse MORSE 1849 - 1917 Whitecroft (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 11 May 2023 11:36:13 +0000

Year: 1917
Month: May
Day: 6
Surname: MORSE
Forenames: Jesse
Residence: Whitecroft
Age_at_death: 67
Officiating_Minister: GW Leonard Cass
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/17
Page_No: 289
Parish_Chapel: Bream

1911 Whitecroft
Jesse Morse Head Married Male 60 1851 Coal miner hewer Glos Whitecroft married 34 yrs
Elizabeth Morse Wife Married Female 51 1860 - Glos Yorkley
Gertrude Allen Daughter Married Female 22 1889 - Glos Bream
Thomas Henry Morse Son Single Male 20 1891 Coal miner hewer Glos Bream
Lillian Martha Morse Daughter Single Female 17 1894 - Glos Bream
Albert Jesse Morse Son - Male 13 1898 School Glos Whitecroft
Harold Frazer Morse Son - Male 10 1901 School Glos Whitecroft
Ernest Charles Morse Son - Male 7 1904 School Glos Whitecroft

1901 Whitecroft
Jesse Morse Head Married Male 51 1850 Coalminer (hewer) West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth Morse Wife Married Female 41 1860 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Emily Ann Morse Daughter Married Female 23 1878 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Samuel John Morse Son Single Male 21 1880 Coalminer (hewer) West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
William George Morse Son Single Male 17 1884 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Gertie Morse Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Henry Morse Son Single Male 10 1891 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Lilian Martha Morse Daughter Single Female 8 1893 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Albert Jesse Morse Son Single Male 3 1898 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Gladys Morse Daughter Single Female 2 1899 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Harold Morse Son Single Male 0 1901 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
George Hy Phipps Son-in-law Married Male 32 1869 Coal miner (hewer) West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth Emily Phipps Grand child Single Female 3 1898 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England

1891 Bream Eaves
Jessie Morse Head Married Male 41 1850 Coal miner Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth Morse Wife Married Female 31 1860 - Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Emily Morse Daughter Single Female 13 1878 - Bream, Gloucestershire, England
John Morse Son Single Male 11 1880 - Bream, Gloucestershire, England
William Morse Son Single Male 7 1884 - Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Gertrude Morse Daughter Single Female 2 1889 - Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Morse Son Single Male 0 1891 - Bream, Gloucestershire, England

1881 Whitecroft
Jesse Morse Head Married Male 29 1852 Coal miner Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth Morse Wife Married Female 22 1859 - Gloucestershire, England
Emily A Morse Daughter Single Female 3 1878 Scholar Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Samuel J Morse Son Single Male 1 1880 - Gloucestershire, England

Year: 1876
Month: Dec
Day: 18
Grooms_Surname: MORSE
Grooms_Forenames: Jesse
Grooms_Age: 26
Groom_Condition: Batchelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Whitecroft
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Morse
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Samuel
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: DAVIS
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth
Brides_Age: 18
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Whitecroft
Brides_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: he marks she signs
Witness_1: Henry Gunter
Witness_2: mark of Edwin Brown
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Jo[hn] Jo[seph] Elsworth Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: illegitimate
Notes: illegitimate written in margin just visible
Register_Reference: P245 IN 1/21
Page_Number: 170
Parish_Chapel: Parkend

1861 6 Row Whitecroft
Samuel Mouse Head Married Male 52 1809 Coal miner Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England
Mary Mouse Wife Married Female 50 1811 - Gloucestershire, England
Ann Mouse Daughter Unmarried Female 23 1838 Brick maker Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England
George Mouse Son Unmarried Male 20 1841 Coal miner Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England
Phoebe Mouse Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1848 Brick maker West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
William Mouse Son - Male 12 1849 Coal miner West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Jasser Mouse Son - Male 10 1851 Coal miner West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Charlotte Mouse Daughter - Female 8 1853 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Harriet Mouse Daughter - Female 6 1855 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
John Mouse Son - Male 3 1858 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England

1851 Lower Row Whitecroft
Samuel Morse Head Married Male 42 1809 Coal miner Gloucestershire, England
Mary Morse Wife Married Female 40 1811 - Lydney, Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Morse Son Unmarried Male 20 1831 Coal miner Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth Morse Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1834 - Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England
Ann Morse Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1836 - Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England
Samuel Morse Son Unmarried Male 13 1838 Coal miner Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England
George Morse Son - Male 11 1840 Scholar Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England
Pheoby Morse Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England
William Morse Son - Male 4 1847 - Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England
Fanny Morse Daughter - Female 2 1849 - Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England * must be Jesse

Year: 1849
Month: June
Day: 24
Parents_Surname: MORSE
Child_Forenames: Jesse
Fathers_Forenames: Samuel
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Whitecroft
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: Henry Poole
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P245 IN 1/10
Page_Number: 96
Parish_Chapel: Parkend

Samuel and MAry MORSE Lower Row Whitecroft (reply)

vicmillard — Thu, 11 May 2023 11:34:11 +0000

Thanks, slowhands. Yes, this is the family.
:)

Samuel and MAry MORSE Lower Row Whitecroft (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 11 May 2023 10:54:18 +0000

1841 Whitecroft
Samuel Morse Male 30 1811 Gloucestershire, England Miner
Mary Morse Female 25 1816 Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Morse Male 10 1831 Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth Morse Female 7 1834 Gloucestershire, England
Ann Morse Female 5 1836 Gloucestershire, England
Samuel Morse Male 3 1838 Gloucestershire, England
George Morse Male 0 1841 Gloucestershire, England

1871 Whitecroft
Samuel Morse Head - Male 60 1811 - Gloucestershire, England
Mary Morse Wife - Female 60 1811 - Gloucestershire, England
Ann Morse Daughter - Female 30 1841 - Gloucestershire, England
Harriett Morse Daughter - Female 17 1854 - Gloucestershire, England
John Morse Son - Male 12 1859 - Gloucestershire, England
Pheboe Vines Daughter - Female 27 1844 - Gloucestershire, England
Mary Vines Granddaughter - Female 3 1868 - Gloucestershire, England

Jesse MORSE family (and PHIPPS) (reply)

MPGriffiths — Mon, 05 Apr 2021 14:01:43 +0000

1851 Census, West Dean (St Paul)

Upper Row

VAUGHAN

Thomas - 60 Coal Miner, born Bristol
Elizabeth - 53 - born Gloucestershire (?Syany parish)
Harriet - 22 - all born Whitecroft
Thomas - 19 - Coal Miner
?- daughter - 17
John - 12

next door

DUFTY

Joseph - 41 Coal Miner, - all born Whitecroft
Ann - 40
Richard - 17
Edward - 15
Joseph - 12
Martha - 10
John -11
? dau -5
Chora? dau -2

Jesse MORSE family (and PHIPPS) (reply)

MPGriffiths — Mon, 05 Apr 2021 13:48:44 +0000

Back to Joseph & Ann Dufty - being the witness at the wedding

1841 Census, Dean Forest (bottom left page 15 of 16)

Whitecroft

Thomas VAUGHAN - Collier
Elizabeth VAUGHAN -40
Harriet VAUGHAN - 12
Thomas VAUGHAN - 9
Harriet - 6
John? -2

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First family - at the start of the right top page

Joseph DIFFITY - 30 Collier
Ann - 30

+ 5 children

(Thomas & Elizabeth VAUGHAN - had children born in Bream)

Jesse MORSE family (and PHIPPS) (reply)

MPGriffiths — Mon, 05 Apr 2021 12:32:50 +0000

You can find friends and families connections through using the Advance Search for witnesses

e.g.

When Samuel MORSE married Mary VAUGHAN - at St Briavels - 21 February 1830

the witnesses were: Joseph DUFTY and Ann DUFTY

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Joseph DUFTY married Ann BALDWIN the year before, 24 December 1829 - to Ann BALDWIN and this witnesses were
Samuel MORSE and Mary VAUGHAN.

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Had a quick look, and at another marriage in St Briavels, 20 June 1837 of
Samuel JONES to Amelia MORSE

the witnesses were: Samuel MORSE and Mary MORSE.

Jesse MORSE family (and PHIPPS) (reply)

grahamdavison — Mon, 05 Apr 2021 11:35:20 +0000

Following on we find:

Samuel Morse baptised 21 Jun 1809 at Ruardean son of Thomas & Mary

Mary Vaughan baptised 28 April 1811 at Lydney dau of Thomas & Elizabeth

Samuel Morse buried 18 Jan 1877 age 67 at Parkend

Mary Morse buried 17 Nov 1889 age 78 at Parkend

Jesse MORSE family (and PHIPPS) (reply)

grahamdavison — Mon, 05 Apr 2021 10:55:02 +0000

Children of Samuel & Mary MORSE are:

Thomas 1834

Elizabeth 1834

Ann 1836

Samuel 1838

George 1840

Phoebe 1846

Jesse 1849

Charlotte 1851

Harriet Vaughan 1853

Harriet 1855

John Henry 1858

all baptised at Parkend

The marriage Samuel Morse to Mary Vaughan 21 Feb 1830 at St Briavels

Jesse MORSE family (and PHIPPS)

vicmillard — Mon, 05 Apr 2021 10:14:20 +0000

Morning!
Once again, I need fresh eyes!
Jesse MORSE (b. 24.6.1849) of Whitecroft
I have him in 1901, with wife, Elizabeth Davies (b. 1860) and ten children. All are buried at St James, Bream.
His father is given as Samuel Morse of Ruardean and wife, Mary.
I now have more Samuel Morses than you can shake a stick at!
So:
1. Which Samuel is Jesse’s dad?
2. Was Samuel’s wife illegitimate (and if so, is there any path to find out who she was)?
3. Is anyone else on here researching MORSE/PHIPPS, as I am drowning in them!! :)
Thank you, as always.