Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Charles KIRBY 1911 census (Ellen REES - 1841/1851 census)

Charles KIRBY 1911 census (Ellen REES - 1841/1851 census) (reply)

m p griffiths — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:23:41 +0000

1911 LONDON South Hackney

135 King Edward Road
South Hackney
LONDON NE3

living in 3 rooms

KIRBY

Charles Edward - age 34 married 10 years - Compositor Printing Manufacturing Chemist - born Glos.Cheltenham
Louisa Ellen - age 34 - 4 children born alive, 2 living - 2 dead - born Herefordshire, Yatton Hill
Dora Alice - 8, born Glos Cheltenham *
Evelyn Edith - 1, born London, Hackney

*transcribed as Ham, but written census form says Cheltenham

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Freebdm

birth ; Hackney District A/M/J Qtr 1912 - KIRBY, Mothers Maiden Name - DAVIES

Ronald C KIRBY - this boy seems to have died 1913

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Gloucestershirebdm

Marriage - Charles KIRBY/Louisa DAVIES - Cheltenham Register Office 1900

births - KIRBY - Mothers maiden name DAVIES, Cheltenham District

female - 1901
Louisa E - 1904
?death Camberwell D 1907 Louisa Ellen KIRBY age 3

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FOD records - baptism 30 April 1865 Mitcheldean

Sophia KIRBY -

parents ; William Michael (gardener) and Ellen (nee REES)

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There is a message on Rootschat from 1904 saying Michael (sometimes known as William) - marriage certificate gives full age) death certificate 1829 -Ellen REES - Coleford 31 July 1836. Married in Bath 1859. Had a brother James KIRBY........ etc who was a fish seller.

and give 1851 census - Gravel St Bristol

KIRBY Michael - Lodger age 25 Gardener Limerick

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FreeBDM : Marriage Bath District J/F/M Qtr 1859

Michael KIRBY + Ellen REES

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1851 Census, Glos Little Dean
Silver Street

REES

Harriette - Mar - age 39, Head, Schoolmistrefs, born Glos. Coleford
Ellen 14 - Scholar, at home, born Glos. Coleford
Elizabeth A - 10 - born Breconshire, Crickhowell
Frank A - 7 - born Brecon
William H - 3 - born Worcester
Charles E - 1 - born Staffordshire, Wolverhampton **

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Freereg

Baptism : St Mary, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire - 17 April 1850

Charles Edward REES- Surveyor

father : Rees Ashwell - mother Harriet

abode -Boscobel Place

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1841 census, Breconshire, Crickhowell
Joy Tower

Rees Ashwel Morgan Rees - 30 - Land surveyor, not born in County
Harriett - 30 - nbc
Ellen - 5 - nbc
Fanny - 3 - nbc
Eliza - 1

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Looking at message on Genforum 3 Dec 2003 (again the same contributor)

Rees Ashwell Morgan REES married Harriet Wintle Nash in Bristol 1835

born to Morgan REES and Elizabeth ASHWELL - 10 December 1813 in Llanelly Brecon Wales. (Uncle or Grandfather Don Ricardo REES)

Apologies for abbreviated version of the message - tying one handed, had op on wrist today

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Charles KIRBY 1876 Cheltenham / Charlton Kings (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 14:11:30 +0000

Charles Edward KIRBY - Born Cheltenham - 1876
Married - Louisa Ellen Kirby 1901

Children - Dora Alice Kirby - born 1904 in Ham, Gloucester & Evelyn Edith Kirby - born 1910 in London

Do you think my great grandfather Charles Edward Kirby could be the same Charles Edward Kirby son of Ellen REES & Micheal KIRBY?

I'm still researching...

Looks like it

Name: Charles Edward Kirby
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1876
Registration district: Cheltenham
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 438

1881
William M Kirby abt 1822 Tuincrick Sallan, Ireland Head Charlton Kings, Gloucestershire
Ellen Kirby abt 1841 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Wife Charlton Kings, Gloucestershire
Charles E Kirby abt 1877 Charlton Kings, Gloucestershire, England Son Charlton Kings, Gloucestershire
Mary Lily Short abt 1887 Charlton Kings, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Charlton Kings, Gloucestershire
Smith Jane Kirby abt 1861 Hawling, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Charlton Kings, Gloucestershire
Bessie Kirby abt 1865 Charlton Kings, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Charlton Kings, Gloucestershire

1891
William M Kirby abt 1822 Tuincrick Sallan, Ireland Head Charlton Kings Gloucestershire
Ellen Kirby abt 1841 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Wife Charlton Kings Gloucestershire
Bessie Kirby abt 1865 Charlton Kings, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Charlton Kings Gloucestershire
Charles E Kirby abt 1877 Charlton Kings, Gloucestershire, England Son Charlton Kings Gloucestershire
Smith Jane Kirby abt 1861 Hawling, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Charlton Kings Gloucestershire

Name: Charles Edward Kirby
Name: Louisa Ellen Davies
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1900
Registration district: Cheltenham
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 981

KIRBY Charles
DAVIES Louisa
Cheltenham Cheltenham Register Office
1900
32 162

1901
Charles E Kirby abt 1877 Charlton Kings, Gloucestershire, England Head Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Louisa E Kirby abt 1877 Yattons Hill, Herefordshire, England Wife Cheltenham, Gloucestershire

Name: Dora Alice L Kirby
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1902
Registration district: Cheltenham
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 462

KIRBY Dora A L
KIRBY KIRBY DAVIES
1902
Cheltenham Cheltenham, Cheltenham
10A 174

Name: Evelyn Edith Kirby
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1910
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 507

1911
KIRBY CHARLES EDWARD M 1877 34 Hackney London
KIRBY LOUISA ELLEN F 1877 34 Hackney London
KIRBY DORA ALICE F 1903 8 Hackney London
KIRBY EVELYN EDITH F 1910 1 Hackney London

Charles KIRBY 1876 Cheltenham (reply)

unknown — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:07:42 +0000

Charles Edward KIRBY - Born Cheltenham - 1876
Married - Louisa Ellen Kirby 1901

Children - Dora Alice Kirby - born 1904 in Ham, Gloucester & Evelyn Edith Kirby - born 1910 in London

Do you think my great grandfather Charles Edward Kirby could be the same Charles Edward Kirby son of Ellen REES & Micheal KIRBY?

I'm still researching...

Lodowic REES Brecon -> Cheltenham (reply)

Irish daisy — Fri, 19 May 2006 03:25:30 +0000

Hi Bertha

Thank you for your interest & time.
Yes Google and I are old driends now ......lol. The entry your refer to is infact mine. Sadly I have yet to hook up with any researcher tracing this particular set of Rees. I have Rees.A.M Rees bapt from IGI files so know of his parents possible names ( yet to follow this through with parish records at present but none the less a good starting point)

Slow hands the Rees's you've found look like a lead I'd like to follow through.........heres hoping ....... and again thank you .

Lodowic REES Brecon -> Cheltenham (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 19 May 2006 01:55:18 +0000

too much of a coincidence, given the family name REES , and the number of Forest folk who moved to and from the south Wales vallies coal field around Aberstruth....

LODOWICK REES
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 29 JUN 1816 Saint John, Brecknock, Brecon, Wales
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Parents:
Father: DAVID REES
Mother: CATHERINE
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C062291 1813 - 1840 0104460 Film 883882 Film
Sheet: 00

1851
Lodowich William Rees abt 1812 Breckon, Breconshire, Wales Head Machen Monmouthshire Coal Agent
Jane Putchan abt 1836 Neal, Monmouthshire, Wales Servant Machen Monmouthshire
Elizabeth Williams abt 1827 Llanmmarth, Monmouthshire, Wales Servant Machen Monmouthshire
William Matthew Wood abt 1824 Merthyr, Glamorgan, Wales Lodger Machen Monmouthshire

1861
Lado W Rees abt 1819 Brecon, Breconshire, Wales Visitor St Arvan Monmouthshire

1871
Todousch W Rees abt 1818 Brecon, Breconshire, Wales Head Cheltenham Gloucestershire
Anne Rees abt 1831 Marylebone, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Cheltenham Gloucestershire
Herbert P T Rees abt 1867 Machynlleth, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Cheltenham Gloucestershire
John D Rees abt 1855 Machynlleth, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Cheltenham Gloucestershire
Lodenick W Rees abt 1861 Aberystruth, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Cheltenham Gloucestershire
Todousch W Rees abt 1818 Brecon, Breconshire, Wales Head Cheltenham Gloucestershire

1881
Lodovick H.W. Rees abt 1817 Breconshire, Wales Head Cheltenham Gloucestershire
Ann Rees abt 1820 Mynyddishllwn, Monmouth, Wales Wife Cheltenham Gloucestershire
Lodovick Wm. Rees abt 1857 Aberystwith, Monmouth, Wales Son Cheltenham Gloucestershire
Louisa C. Rees abt 1853 Machen Lower, Monmouth, Wales Daughter Cheltenham Gloucestershire

NASH/WINTLE/WILLIAMS Newland Parish Recs to consider (reply)

Irish daisy — Fri, 19 May 2006 00:04:33 +0000

Slowhands.........many many thanks for your time......... I do have all of this information , however your help and time aren't wasted as it's always nice to know that others can find the same info as oneself, thus strengthing ones findings. It truly is very much appreciated ........thank you

Nash/Wintle/Rees & Kirby in Coleford (reply)

bertha — Thu, 18 May 2006 23:55:39 +0000

I'm assuming you've already 'Googled' and found this site?

http://genforum.genealogy.com/rees/messages/1109.html

NASH/WINTLE/WILLIAMS Newland Parish Recs to consider (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 18 May 2006 23:27:53 +0000

ELIZABETH WINTLE
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 14 MAY 1786 Coleford, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN WINTLE
Mother: ELIZABETH
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C073621 1768 - 1815 0991280 Film 6912026 Film
Sheet: 00

JOHN WINTLE
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Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH WILLIAMS
Marriage: 18 SEP 1779 Staunton By Monmouth, Gloucester, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M031731 1583 - 1812 0427779 Film 6905292 Film
Sheet: 00

ELIZATH WINTLE
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 14 JUN 1786 Newland, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN WINTLE
Mother: ELIZATH
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C036202 1560 - 1565 0423272 Film 6911882 Film
C036202 1583 - 1812 0425476 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

ELIZABETH WINTLE
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Marriages:
Spouse: RICHARD NASH
Marriage: 11 DEC 1806 Newland, Gloucester, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M036201 1754 - 1851 0856960 Film 6911883 Film
Sheet: 00

REES ASHWELE REES
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Event(s):
Birth: 10 DEC 1813
Christening: 21 FEB 1816 Llanelly, Brecon, Wales
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Parents:
Father: MORGAN REES
Mother: ELIZABETH
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C081291 1814 - 1837 0104474 Film 1238669 Film
Sheet: 00

Ellen REES 1836 -1921 Coleford (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 18 May 2006 22:20:07 +0000

Year: 1836
Month: Aug
Day: 31
Parents_Surname: REES
Child_Forenames: Ellen
Fathers_Forenames: Rees
Mothers_Forenames: Harriet
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Coleford
Occupation: Gentleman
Officiating_Minister: George Roberts BA Perpet: Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 16
Parish_Chapel: Coleford

1841 Joy Tower ? Crickhowell
Rees Ashwel Morgan Rees abt 1811 Crickhowell Breconshire
Harriett Rees abt 1811 Crickhowell Breconshire
Eliza Rees abt 1840 Breconshire, Wales Crickhowell Breconshire
Ellen Rees abt 1836 Crickhowell Breconshire
Fanny Rees abt 1838 Crickhowell Breconshire

1851 Silver St, Littledean
Harriette Kees abt 1812 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Head Little Dean Gloucestershire School Mistress
Ellen Kees abt 1837 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Little Dean Gloucestershire
Charles E Kees abt 1850 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Son Little Dean Gloucestershire
Elizabeth A Kees abt 1841 Crickhowell, Breconshire, Wales Daughter Little Dean Gloucestershire
Frank A Kees abt 1844 Breconshire, Wales Son Little Dean Gloucestershire
William H Kees abt 1848 Worcestershire, England Son Little Dean Gloucestershire

Name: Michael Kirby
Name: Ellen Rees
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1859
Registration district: Bath
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 1051

1861
Michael Kerby abt 1830 Pollas Limerick, Limerick, Ireland Head Seend Wiltshire Gardener
Ellen Kerby abt 1837 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Wife Seend Wiltshire
Ellen H Kerby abt 1860 Bath, Somerset, England Daughter Seend Wiltshire

1871
William M Kerby abt 1827 Ireland Head Christchurch Gloucestershire Gardener
Ellen Kerby abt 1837 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Wife Christchurch Gloucestershire
Ellen H Kerby abt 1861 Bath, Somerset, England Daughter Christchurch Gloucestershire
Emily M Kerby abt 1870 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Christchurch Gloucestershire
Mary A Kerby abt 1865 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Christchurch Gloucestershire
Thomas W Kerby abt 1864 Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Christchurch Gloucestershire

1881
William M. Kirby abt 1827 Pontypool, Monmouth, Wales Head Charlton Kings Gloucestershire Gardener
Ellen Kirby abt 1838 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Wife Charlton Kings Gloucestershire
Alice Rees Kirby abt 1874 Northleach Daughter Charlton Kings Gloucestershire
Charles Edwid Kirby abt 1876 Charlton Kings Son Charlton Kings Gloucestershire
Emily Maria Kirby abt 1871 Cheltenham Daughter Charlton Kings Gloucestershire
Evelyn May Kirby abt 1878 Charlton Kings Daughter Charlton Kings Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Kirby abt 1864 Mitcheldean Daughter Charlton Kings Gloucestershire
Thomas Kirby abt 1863 Newport, Monmouth, Wales Son Charlton Kings Gloucestershire

Name: Ellen Kirby
Birth Date: abt 1836
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1921
Age at Death: 85
Registration district: Cheltenham
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 492

Richard NASH 1780 Park End (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 18 May 2006 21:40:54 +0000

Richard NASH Iron Miner

1841 Clay Lane End
Richard Nash abt 1781 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Mary Nash abt 1786 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Ann Nash abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
George Nash abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Mary Nash abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Ruben Nash abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Susan Nash abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire

1851 Sling Pit
Richard Nash abt 1779 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Mary Nash abt 1783 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Susan Nash abt 1832 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire

1861
Richard Nash abt 1778 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Father East Dean Gloucestershire
Reuben Nash abt 1815 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Nash abt 1821 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Mary A Nash abt 1853 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Reuben Nash abt 1858 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
William Nash abt 1855 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire

Nash/Wintle/Rees & Kirby in Coleford

Irish daisy — Thu, 18 May 2006 05:22:15 +0000

Richard NASH of west Dean 1781 m 11 Dec 1806 Newlands Elizabeth WINTLE of Coleford 1786.

Richard is listed on the baptisims of some his children as a Baker in Coleford from 1814 to 1828. The next baptisim in 1830 and the last shows his occupation as an Iron Miner . This is also recorded in the 1841 & 1851 census.

The children were Hariett 1812 and the lady I am most interested in , Ann 1813 , Richard 1814, John 1816, Amelia ( mispelt as Emila)1818, Samuel 1819, Maria ( Mary) 1822, Joseph 1826, Benjamin 1828, Sarah Ann 1830,

Harriet is recorded as marrying a Gentleman Rees Ashwell Morgan REES 7th Oct 1835 in Britol. She is recorded carrying the middle name of Wintle. A Full 9 months later harriet gives birth to a daughter Ellen REES and she is the only child of the couple that is born in Coleford. This is because Rees although recorded as a gentleman at marriage and on the bapt of daughter Ellen all other documentation records Land Surveyor ( 1841 census, dau's marriage ) thus he and the family move about alot.

The children besdies Ellen were as follow Fanny 1838 ... unsure place of birth , Elizabeth 1841 Crickhowell Brecon, Frank Ashwell 1844 Brecknock, William Henry 1847 Worcester & Charles 1850 Wolverhampton.

Harriet is widowed by 1851 and she is recorded on the 1851 census as School Mistress. She and her children are living in Silver Street, Newnham.

After the 1851 census I lose the family............except the eldest daughter Ellen REES ( gg Gran) she marries an Irish Gardener Micheal KIRBY of Pallas Green Limerick. This couple have the following other children Thomas 1863 Newport Monmouth, Mary Ann 1864 Mitcheldean ( married into a very wealthy and famous family called HOSTE - they were from Norfolk ) , Emily Maria 1870 Cheltenham, Alice rees 1873 Northleach, Charles Edward 1877 Charlton Kings ( dies in Bethnal green London in 1948) & Evelyn May 1878 charlton Kings.

Ellen's family settle mostly in Cheltenham after 1901 . She dies there in 1921.

Anyone with a connection to the families pls pls do get in touch. OR if you have any info regarding the families etc .

Thank you for taking the time to read this.