Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Emma/Alice/Edward Grail Family

Emma/Alice/Edward Grail Family (reply)

m p griffiths — Thu, 07 Jul 2011 10:45:39 +0000

Emma GRAIL's marriage is actually shown on Ancestry (full certificate)

Marriage at the Parish Church of St. Pancras, in the County of Middlesex

16 July 1887

Edward TARBUCK - age 25 - Bachelor, occupation, Undertaker, residence St Pancras

father: Edward Lance TARBUCK, Artchitect

married

Emma GRAIL - age 24 - Spinster, of Lambeth Surrey

father: Edward GRAIL - Fisherman

by Licence

witnesses Henry PAYNE and Mr? A STAFFORD

1901 Census, London St Giles in the Fields

193 Tottenham Court Road

TARBUCK

Edward - 38 - Undertakers' Manager - born Kensington, Surrey
Emma - 28 - born Woolaston, Glous.
George E- 12 born St. Pancras
Rosina E - 10
Frederick W - 9

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Alice GRAIL

1901 Census, Glos. Woolaston

Common

Edward GRAIL - Widower - age 63, Land Drainer, born Malmesbury, Wilts
Alice K GRAIL - daughter - unmarried age 25, born Woolaston
Mary GRAIL - Granddaughter - age 8 - born Glos. Soudley
George H WILLIAMS, nephew, single age 24, Farmer own account at home, born Woolaston

Edward GRAIL and Hephzibah Mary THOMAS - Marriage - Chepstow - 1897

Death on Ancestry

Hephzibah M GRAIL - age 76 - J/F/M Qtr 1951 FOD

1901 Wales, Monmouthshire, Caldicot

Ben Acre House

Edward GRAIL - Head - M - 28 - Prudential Assurance Agent, born Woolastone, Glos
Hephzibah M GRAIL - wife - 26 - born Ruspiage, Glos
Edward C.W. GRAIL - son - age 3 - born Caldicot Mon'shire
Seymour A - Son - 1 - born ditto

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' I have Mary Elizabeth GRAIL married to John LEWS IN 1888'

FOD records

Marriage at Woolaston - 14 April 1888

James LEWIS - age 25, Bachelor, labourer - residence : Tidenham - father Walter LEWIS, Blacksmith

married

Elizabeth Mary GRAIL - age 18, Spinster, Woolaston
father: Edward GRAIL, labourer

by banns

witnesses: T WILLIAMS, G GRAIL, Alice GRAIL and Lissie DAVIS

Grail Family (reply)

eastville — Thu, 07 Jul 2011 09:23:37 +0000

Roger

You stated George Henry's sisters are Emmeline, Polly and Alice.

I am a little puzzled as I have Emma (1862), Mary Elizabeth (1870) and Alice (1875)

Of curse Amma may be known as Emmeline and Mary Elizabeth as Polly. Can you confirm this.

Did Emma go into service and marry a Frederick Henry Isaac or Edward Tarbuck in Sep 1887 in Pancras?

I Have Mary Elizabeth married to John Lewis bin 1888.

I also have Alice married to Charles Cook in 1902.

I believe there was another sister Mary Jane bon 1870, I cant find her on BMD.

Also there is a brother Edward who married Hephzibah Mary in 1897.

I would appreciate confirmation.

Regards

Stephen Smith

Worthy GRAIL marriage in 1854 (reply)

eastville — Sun, 03 Jul 2011 11:33:49 +0000

Slowhands

Thank you for untangling this one. I had no chance of finding this one.

Regards

Stephen Smith

Worthy GRAIL marriage in 1854 (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 03 Jul 2011 10:04:23 +0000

Name: Eliza Stephens
Name: *Orsley Greyle
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1854
Registration district: Chepstow
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 16

Year: 1854
Month: Jan
Day: 24
Grooms_Surname: GREYLE
Grooms_Forenames: Worthy
Grooms_Age: Of full age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Aylburton
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: GREYLE
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Henry
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: STEPHENS
Brides_Forenames: Eliza
Brides_Age: Of full age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Aylburton
Brides_Fathers_Surname: STEPHENS
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Shepherd
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: The mark of William Harris
Witness_2: The mark of Allen Harris
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Charles Taylor
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/15
Page_Number: 109
Parish_Chapel: Lydney

Worthy GRAIL 1830 - 1882 (reply)

eastville — Sun, 03 Jul 2011 09:16:30 +0000

I have been searching for marriage details for Worthy and Eliza (nee Gray). Looking at this thread, there are mixed surnames Grail, Grael and Gray.

Can anyone look up mariiage details.

Regards

Stephen Smith

George GRAIL's 1868 G Son of Henry - Part 2 (reply)

Roger Griffiths — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 02:50:52 +0000

I have e-mailed you Sarah. I have considerable documentation including photo's. Anyone else interested in this part of Grail family, please e-mail me. There are photo's of Grail's in Soudley Album on here.

Roger Griffiths

Grail Family (reply)

cmp — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 11:47:09 +0000

George Henry Grail was married first to Mary Ann Lewis who died in 1892 around the time of the birth of Cissie.
He remarried whilst Clifford and Cissie were still quite young.

I have two links with my family - on both maternal and paternal sides

Mary Ann had two sisters - Elizabeth and Clara, and a brother.

1. Elizabeth married Colston Higgs (my maternal great grandparents)
Clifford Grail was close to my grandfather (his cousin) and there is a letter in which he apologises for being unable to be his best man due to work commitments - he taught at a school - I believe there is a memorial to him in a window there?

2. Clara married John Prosser (my paternal grandparents)so Clifford and Cissie were also cousins to my father and uncle (Wilf and Jim)

Would be delighted to exchange further info with you

GRAIL - WW1 - War garve info (reply)

Roger Griffiths — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:40:30 +0000

Yes Slowhands, I have photographs of them.

Roger

Stanley GRAIL - WW1 - War garve info R I P (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:32:12 +0000

At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

Name: GRAIL, STANLEY JAMES
Initials: S J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: South Staffordshire Regiment
Unit Text: 6th Bn.
Age: 18
Date of Death: 05/06/1915
Service No: 2807
Additional information: Son of George Henry and Kate Grail, of "Hillside," Grove Rd., Lydney. Native of Newnham, Gloucestershire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: A. 9. 43.
Cemetery: ST. SEVER CEMETERY, ROUEN

Name: GRAIL, CLIFFORD GEORGE
Initials: C G
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: North Staffordshire Regiment
Unit Text: 7th Bn.
Age: 24
Date of Death: 23/07/1915
Additional information: Son of George Henry Grail, of The Old Brewery House, Stratford-on-Avon. B.A. (Honours, Cantab.). Volunteered, Aug., 1914.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 170 and 171.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL

Worthy GRAIL 1830 - 1882 (reply)

sarah — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:17:56 +0000

Thanks again for the information.

I have actually have copies of Worthy's Census's but I hadn't noticed that they had lodgers with them in 1871 and that they were from Austrailia?????? I wonder how they cam to be here??

Sarah

Worthy GRAIL 1830 - 1882 (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 01:45:25 +0000

Name: Worthy Grail
Birth Date: abt 1829
Year of Registration: 1882
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 53
District: Chepstow
County: Gloucestershire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 9

1881 Aylburton Common
Worthy Grail abt 1829 Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England Head Aylburton Gloucestershire
Eliza Grail abt 1830 Aylburton, Gloucestershire, England Wife Aylburton Gloucestershire
George H. Grail Aylburton, Gloucestershire, England Son Aylburton Gloucestershire
John Grail abt 1859 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Son Aylburton Gloucestershire
Lucy Alice Grail abt 1874 Aylburton, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Aylburton Gloucestershire
Mary Eliza Grail abt 1866 Aylburton, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Aylburton Gloucestershire

1871
Worthy Grail abt 1827 Wiltshire, England Head Aylburton Gloucestershire
Eliza Grail abt 1829 Aylburton, Gloucestershire, England Wife Aylburton Gloucestershire
Ann Grail abt 1855 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Aylburton Gloucestershire
George Grail abt 1862 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Son Aylburton Gloucestershire
John Grail abt 1859 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Son Aylburton Gloucestershire
Mary Grail abt 1866 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Aylburton Gloucestershire
Maria Stephen abt 1857 Melbourn, Austria Boarder Aylburton Gloucestershire
Thomas Stephen abt 1858 Melbourn, Austria Boarder Aylburton Gloucestershire

1861
Wortley Gray abt 1831 Cheltenham, Wiltshire, England Head Alvington Gloucestershire
Eliza Gray abt 1830 Aylburton, Gloucestershire, England Wife Alvington Gloucestershire
John Gray abt 1860 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Son Alvington Gloucestershire
Anna Gray abt 1855 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Alvington Gloucestershire
William Hoskin abt 1839 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Alvington Gloucestershire
Thomas Duffy abt 1842 Biringham, Warwickshire, England Lodger Alvington Gloucestershire

1851
Worthy Grael abt 1830 Morlinsbury, Wiltshire, England Servant Aylburton Gloucestershire

1841

Henry Grail abt 1796 Alvington Gloucestershire
Mary Grail abt 1796 Alvington Gloucestershire
Dorthy [WORTHY] Grail abt 1831 Alvington Gloucestershire
Edward Grail abt 1837 Alvington Gloucestershire
Henry Grail abt 1836 Alvington Gloucestershire
Jane Grail abt 1821 Alvington Gloucestershire
Joseph Grail abt 1840 Alvington Gloucestershire
Keria Grail abt 1816 Alvington Gloucestershire

George GRAIL's 1868 G Son of Henry - Part 2 (reply)

sarah — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 12:07:17 +0000

Forgot to add please feel free to contact me direct.

George GRAIL's 1868 G Son of Henry - Part 2 (reply)

Sarah — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 12:06:12 +0000

Thank you for all the replies,Wow what a quick response Yes this is part of my husband's family.

Henry Grail c 1796 was my husbands Gt Gt Gt Grandfather. Henry had a son Richard 1814.

Edward Grail c 1837 is the son of Richard 1814 my husbands Gt Gt Grandfather and brother to Frederick c1844 my husbands Gt Grandfather. Frederick married Elizabeth Evans and they had lots of children one of them William Edger Grail born 1893 he married Edith May Howell in 1922 and they had a daughter along with others called Edith Violet Grail(my husband's mother)1920 she married Reginald Ralph Smith in 1944 in Chepstow. would you know this part of the family by chance???

I have found information regarding the other branches of the Grail family tree
but you have given me more on personal information of what happened to them.

I have census but you have given me marriage detail's aswell which I am grateful, I would love to have a look at the photographs.How can I see them?? we are living in Abertillery in Gwent. Where are you both from Roger and slowhands??

George GRAIL's 1868 G Son of Henry - Part 2 (reply)

Roger Griffiths — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:09:37 +0000

I've just scanned 12 photographs for you. There will be more.

Roger

George GRAIL 1868 G Son of Henry - Part 2 (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 23:02:17 +0000

Name: George Henry Grail
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Chepstow
County: Gloucestershire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 12

1881
Edward Grail abt 1837 Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England Head Woolaston Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Grail abt 1836 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Woolaston Gloucestershire
Alice Grail abt 1876 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woolaston Gloucestershire
Edward Grail abt 1873 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woolaston Gloucestershire
Elizabeth M. Grail abt 1871 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woolaston Gloucestershire
George H. Grail abt 1869 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woolaston Gloucestershire

1881
Mary Ann Lewis abt 1864 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Servant Hewelsfield Gloucestershire

Name: George Henry Grail
Name: Mary Anne Lewis
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Chepstow
County: Gloucestershire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 35

Name: Clifford George Grail
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 212

1891
George H Grad abt 1869 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Mary A Grad abt 1864 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Clifford G Grad abt 1890 Sewdley, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire

Name: George Henry Grail
Name: Kate Griffiths
Year of Registration: 1894
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Cheltenham
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 776

1901
George H Grail abt 1869 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Head Newnham Gloucestershire
Kate Grail abt 1871 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newnham Gloucestershire
Clifford Grail abt 1891 Soudley, Gloucestershire, England Son Newnham Gloucestershire

1901
James Griffiths abt 1841 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah Griffiths abt 1846 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
John Griffiths abt 1865 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Albert Griffiths abt 1884 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Frank Griffiths abt 1877 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Stanley J Grail abt 1898 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson East Dean Gloucestershire

George GRAIL 1868 G Son of Henry (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:42:06 +0000

1841

Henry Grail abt 1796 Alvington Gloucestershire
Mary Grail abt 1796 Alvington Gloucestershire
Dorthy Grail abt 1831 Alvington Gloucestershire
Edward Grail abt 1837 Alvington Gloucestershire
Henry Grail abt 1836 Alvington Gloucestershire
Jane Grail abt 1821 Alvington Gloucestershire
Joseph Grail abt 1840 Alvington Gloucestershire
Keria Grail abt 1816 Alvington Gloucestershire

1851 Woolaston

Richard Grail abt 1814 Chippenham, Wiltshire, England Head Woolaston Monmouthshire
Keziah Grail abt 1814 Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England Wife Woolaston Monmouthshire
Edward Grail abt 1837 Westport, Wiltshire, England Son Woolaston Monmouthshire
Joseph Grail abt 1841 Westport, Wiltshire, England Son Woolaston Monmouthshire
James Geael abt 1848 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Woolaston Monmouthshire
Jane Geael abt 1820 Chippenham, Wiltshire, England Daughter Woolaston Monmouthshire
William Geael abt 1846 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Woolaston Monmouthshire

Henry Grail abt 1791 Malinesbury, Wiltshire, England Head Woolaston Monmouthshire
Mary Grail abt 1792 Chippenham, Wiltshire, England Wife Woolaston Monmouthshire
Henry Grail abt 1836 Westport, Wiltshire, England Son Woolaston Monmouthshire
John Grail abt 1843 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Woolaston Monmouthshire
Mary Ann Grail abt 1850 Alvingham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woolaston Monmouthshire
Richard Grail abt 1847 Alvingham, Gloucestershire, England Son Woolaston Monmouthshire

1861
Henry Gruile abt 1795 Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England Head Woollaston Gloucestershire
Mary Gruile abt 1795 Langley, Wiltshire, England Wife Woollaston Gloucestershire
Jane Gruile abt 1821 Langley, Wiltshire, England Daughter Woollaston Gloucestershire
William Gruile abt 1847 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Woollaston Gloucestershire

1861
Edwd Graill abt 1838 Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England Head Woollaston Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Graill abt 1837 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Woollaston Gloucestershire

1871
Edward Grail abt 1838 Wiltshire, England Head Woolaston Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Grail abt 1836 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Woolaston Gloucestershire
Emma Grail abt 1863 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woolaston Gloucestershire
George Grail abt 1868 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woolaston Gloucestershire
Mary Jane Grail abt 1870 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woolaston Gloucestershire

Grail Family (reply)

Roger Griffiths — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:24:21 +0000

How about:-

George Henry Grail 1868-1944, Father Edward Grail, drainage contractor. Sisters Emmeline, Polly and Alice.

Married (1) Mary Ann ? 1864 - 1892. 1889.

Children

Clifford George 1890 - 1915, KIA Gallipoli Captain 7/N. Staffs Regt. Helles Memorial.

Mary Emmeline (Cissie), married Rex Eason.

Married (2) Kate Griffiths 1870 -1954 (My Grandfathers sister). 1894.

Children

Stanley James 1897 - 1915, KIA Western Front. Private S. Staffs Regt. St Sever Cemetry, Rouen.

Constance 1902 - ? Married Frank Thompson 1924.

Percival Roland 1909 - 1994. Married Ella Looms 1934.

Kenneth Roy 1912 - ? (Living 1994). Married Dorothy Anderson 1938. 1918 -

I have numerous photographs of some of these people, some taken by my father.

Best Wishes,

Roger

Grail Family

sgrail — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:51:46 +0000

I researching the Grail Family, I've found them in Woolaston, Alvington, Malmesbury,Chepstow etc. In fact nearly all of the Grail's have come from this and the surounding area. The furthest I have gone back to is c1792 Henry Grail born in Malmesbury, in 1841 living in Alvington with his Family, some Grail's lived in The Common Woolaston and Stroat Farm.I have to many name's to list but If any one has information or know of any Grail's past and present I would be grateful of any information.