Forest of Dean FHT Forum - George BEARD (Coronor Stops Funeral)

George BEARD (Coronor Stops Funeral) (reply)

HarryBrook — Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:53:26 +0000

There is a medal index card on Ancestry for a Capt. G. J. H. Beard, Monmouthshire Regt.

He was promoted Lieutenant on 18.7.1916
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/29670/supplement/7083

Resigned his commission in 2nd Bn. Monmouthshire Regt. 24.2.1921, and retained the rank of Lieutenant. He would have been placed in the Reserve of Officers and liable to recall if required.
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/32237/supplement/1538

Promoted Captain, whilst in the Reserve of Officers, 17.6.1922
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/32770/page/8301

He would have still been in the Reserve of Officers at the time of his death.

George BEARD (Coronor Stops Funeral) (reply)

admin — Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:47:51 +0000

Two clippings have now been added to Newspaper Clippings. Both are from the Gloucester Citizen.
To view: click on Photo Gallery > Newspaper Clippings > Page 4

George BEARD (Coronor Stops Funeral) (reply)

HarryBrook — Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:39:55 +0000

The Gloucester Citizen reported that George James Henry Beard was buried at Newland Church on Tuesday, February 5 1929.
There are several reports ref. his death and the intervention of the Coroner (the latter being as a result of the certifying Doctor mentioning the war wound of 1916 on the death certificate). A subsequent post mortem confirmed that death was due to natural causes.
Too much to transcribe.

George BEARD (Coronor Stops Funeral) (reply)

MPGriffiths — Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:12:59 +0000

Death: March Qtr 1929, Monmouth

George J H BEARD - birth about 1897

British Newspapers on Line Inc Dundee Paper/Gloucester Citizen etc - 4 February 1929 re: Captain J H BEARD, Coronor stops the funeral at Newland/Coleford … and may have been accelerated by a war wound.

Don't subscribe - so can't read all the article

Burial at Newland - 5 February 1929

George Henry BEARD - age 32, residence: The Flat Redbrook

george nurse beard (reply)

RogerrGriffiths — Wed, 29 Apr 2015 09:34:08 +0000

Perhaps a reprieve for Lt. Beard. Newspaper just got the Regiment wrong. SWB and Mon. Regt. undoubtedly recruited from same general area which encroached into FoD. A brother of my grandfather (Soudley, East Dean)was a volunteer in the Royal Monmouthshie Royal Engineers Militia for several years in the 1890's. (3,000 officers and OR's, how about that).

george nurse beard (reply)

shepway — Wed, 29 Apr 2015 08:13:14 +0000

There is a document on Find My Past in which he is mentioned:

DAILY ORDERS PART II. No. 267 dated 2.10.1918. continued. SHEET II

OFFICER5 CAMP.

(1) ATTACHMENTS.

Tho undernamed Officers have been attached to the Officers’ Mess under
canvas, army School of Physical and Bayonet Training, for rations and
accommodation from and to dates shown ;—

Lieut. BEARD G.J.H. 2nd Mon.R. Attd 53 S.W.M. 3/9 - 26/9/18

From this it would appear that he was promoted from 2nd Lieut. to Lieut.

Mike

george nurse beard (reply)

Mike Pinchin — Wed, 29 Apr 2015 07:57:59 +0000

The Gazette does report the appointment of George James Henry BEARD as a second lieutenant, but this is in the Monmouthshire Regiment.

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/29289/supplement/8982

George James Henry BEARD/Doris Mary SMITH (reply)

MPGriffiths — Wed, 29 Apr 2015 07:56:48 +0000

In previous reply : I did question whether the witness Geof BEARD at the marriage of May BEARD Newland 1920 was Geo.J BEARD - as the original on Ancestry does appear to be Geo.J.

???

Church of Latter Day Saints

Marriage at Bishton, Monmouthshire, Wales - 20 August 1922

George James Henry BEARD - to Doris Mary SMITH

Ancestry has copy of the Banns at Newland

August 20/August 27/September 10th

George James Henry BEARD, Bachelor of this Parish and Doris Mary SMITH, Spinster, of this parish of Monmouth

george nurse beard (reply)

shepway — Wed, 29 Apr 2015 07:42:57 +0000

Whilst George appears in the 1911 Census as George Nurse Beard the name registered at birth was George James Henry Beard.
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
BEARD George James Henry BEARD BEARD NURSE 1896 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 53 30

That said I cannot find this name in WW1 records.

Mike

george nurse beard (reply)

HarryBrook — Wed, 29 Apr 2015 06:50:06 +0000

It's been said before - don't rely solely on newspaper reports.
I think in this case the rank of George Beard was incorrectly stated, since there is no officer service file after 1913 for a George Nurse Beard or plain George Beard at the National Archives, or any Beard, South Wales Borderers; there are no notifications of military appointments found in the London Gazette for George Nurse Beard or G. N. Beard ("gazetting" as a 2nd Lieutenant was usually announced with the officer's full name, and subsequent promotions, appointments, relinquishing commission, etc. with initials and surname); there is no listing of G.N. or G. Beard in Army Lists for March 1916, October 1917, and August 1918 (listing of officers and their various Regiments or Corps).
There is no record of WW1 campaign medals being issued to George Nurse Beard (although this is not conclusive proof since an officer was required to claim the medals).
The only record of WW1 campaign medals to a George Beard of The South Wales Borderers is to Corporal George Beard 35365 2nd Battalion.
There is no surviving service record for him.
It needs further research from some other source or sources - I would be delighted to be proved wrong.

george nurse beard (reply)

RogerrGriffiths — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 16:21:36 +0000

From the photograph of Redbrook House 1910, I suggest the three people were George Nurse Beard 14, Catherine Jane Beard 46 and Brenda aged 12. What do others think.

Edwin + Catherine Jane BEARD + TEAGUE (reply)

MPGriffiths — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 15:39:48 +0000

Burial at Newland - 6 August 1932

Catherine Jane BEARD - age 69

residence: Rose Villa North Parade Monmouth

Ancestry:

Catherine Jane BEARD of Rose Villa North-parade-terrace Monmouth (wife of Edwin BEARD) - died 4 July 1932. Pr Llandaff 23 July to the said Edwin BEARD gentleman and May TEAGUE (wife of Charles TEAGUE) : Effects £1,012 10s

By Googling: Edwin BEARD, Rose Villa North Parade Monmouth - he was applying for a patent on push bars for perambultors/baby carriages etc at Rose Villa - Monmouth - date 25 August 1931

Burial at Newland - 22 Jan 1936

Edwin BEARD age 71

residence: Rose Villa Monmouth

Ancestry:

BEARD Edwin of North Parade Monmouth died 18 January 1936. Pr Llandaff 3 April to Charles Edward TEAGUE engineer.
Effects £3,071 11s

May was aged 16 on the 1911 census

The above couple May and Charles TEAGUE are on Public Members Tree and married 1920 at Newland

(witnesses: Geof ? is this GEOJ or GEO.J BEARD and Brenda Nurse BEARD)

Had a look at the original on Ancestry and do question this christian name

1911 Census, Bowson House, Cinderford

TEAGUE

Moses Edward - 54 - Mechanical Engineer - Iron & Brass (Employer) - born Cinderford
Elizabeth - 42 - born Glasgow
Hilda Irene - 21 - all born Cinderford
Charles Edward Stephen - 19 - Apprentice to Engineering
Doris Elizabeth - 13 - School
Florence Edith Webb - 20 - Domestic - born Dryrbook

and by googling Moses Edward TEAGUE, Bowson House Cinderford - again another Patent application 19 October 1914 - pateneted 2 January 1917

(very detailed including a drawing….. just a short quote…..)

New and useful improvements in Governor Mechanisms for compressor enginers and the like….. etc

George BEARD (Lieutenant South Wales Borderers) (reply)

petergee — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 11:58:35 +0000

Many thanks

George BEARD (Lieutenant South Wales Borderers) (reply)

RogerrGriffiths — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 11:03:16 +0000

Thank you Admin, they do.

George BEARD (Lieutenant South Wales Borderers) (reply)

RogerrGriffiths — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 10:48:56 +0000

No, these don't work either. They may be intentionally blocked. I Googled Redbrook House Redbrook Gloucestershire, then Images. Quite near the top is image of tinplate works, early 19th Century perhaps. Scroll down further and find Redbrook House circa 1900/10 May well be Beard family standing out front.

The links provided in previous posts have been amended and should now work.
Admin

George BEARD (Lieutenant South Wales Borderers) (reply)

RogerrGriffiths — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 10:42:23 +0000

Sorry about that, I should have tested them before leaving. Having another go using the website url's.

http://www.sungreen.co.uk/Redbrook/Tinplate_Managers_House_1910.html

http://www.burgumfamily.com/pages/pl%20redbrook.html

George BEARD (Lieutenant South Wales Borderers) (reply)

RogerrGriffiths — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 08:07:18 +0000

Tinplate factory and Redbrook House.

http://www.sungreen.co.uk/Redbrook/Redbrook-pics/Redbrook_Tinplate_Manager.jpg

http://www.burgumfamily.com/pages/My%20Pics/lower%20redbrook%20tinworks.jpg

George BEARD (Lieutenant South Wales Borderers) (reply)

petergee — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 07:48:24 +0000

So Nurse was his mothers maiden name! Great.

Thanks

George BEARD (Lieutenant South Wales Borderers) (reply)

shepway — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 07:43:07 +0000

George Beard son of Edwin was born 1896:
Births Jun 1896
Beard George James H Monmouth 11a 17

George and siblings from Glos BMD:
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
BEARD Brenda Nurse BEARD BEARD NURSE 1897 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 54 366
BEARD Doris Nurse BEARD BEARD NURSE 1895 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 52 4
BEARD George James Henry BEARD BEARD NURSE 1896 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 53 30
BEARD May Nurse BEARD BEARD NURSE 1893 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 50 159

Parents marriage:
Marriages Jun 1892
BEARD Edwin Monmouth 11a 81
Nurse Cassie Monmouth 11a 81

This is the family at Redbrook House, Redbrook in 1911
Name Relation to Head Birth Date Age Gender Marital Status Occupation Birth City Birth County Birth Country Address
Edwin Beard Head 1864 47 Male Married Manager Newland Gloucestershire England Redbrook House Redbrook Nr Monmouth
Catherine Jane Beard Wife 1864 47 Female Married Machen Monmouthshire Wales Redbrook House Redbrook Nr Monmouth
May Nurse Beard Daughter 1894 17 Female Single School Student Newland Gloucestershire England Redbrook House Redbrook Nr Monmouth
George Nurse Beard Son 1896 15 Male Single School Newland Gloucestershire England Redbrook House Redbrook Nr Monmouth
Brenda Nurse Beard Daughter 1898 13 Female School Newland Gloucestershire England Redbrook House Redbrook Nr Monmouth
Ida Hudson Servant 1893 18 Female Single General Servant (domestic) Newland Gloucestershire England Redbrook House Redbrook Nr Monmouth

Edwin is described as Manager of Tinplate Works.

Mike

George BEARD (Lieutenant South Wales Borderers) (reply)

MPGriffiths — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 07:24:39 +0000

On Ancestry there are a couple of Public Members' Trees

1871 Census, Pontymister Works, Risca - Monmouth

David NURSE - 70 - Tin Works Manager, born Glamorgan, Whitchurch
Augusta NURSE - wife - 69 born Gloucester Saul
George N BEARD - Stepson - 15 - Scholar, born Saul
Mary A NURSE, visitor - ummarried - 36 - born Saul
John W NURSE -visitor - Mar - 28 Captain of Vessell - born Saul

Ancestry - copy of marriage at Gloucester St Mary de Lobe

23 January 1869

David NURSE (Widower) - Manager of a Tin Works, residence: Risca Monmouth (father George NURSE, Baller)
married Harriet Augusta BEARD (Widow) - father George NURSE - occupation Coachman