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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lilian May (Kate) the child born to Lillian May Bullock is the correct line.<br />
She married Ivor Askew.  <br />
My friend was the daughter of one of Lilian May and Albert Nelmes daughters who was also born out of wedlock and placed in foster care with Kate and Ivor.  Although she didn't know she was her aunt and thought it was one of the local authorities foster parents.<br />
Anne</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this moment in time we do not know if your Lilian May is the one who had a child in the workhouse or not but there is another child born out of wedlock to a Lilian May Bullock:</p>
<p>Births Sep 1914<br />
Bullock    Kate    Bullock    Westbury S.    6a    507</p>
<p>and this is the baptism:<br />
Year:    1918<br />
Month:    Oct<br />
Day:    23<br />
Parents_Surname:    BULLOCK<br />
Child_Forenames:    (Lilian Mary) Kate<br />
Fathers_Forenames:    [not stated]<br />
Mothers_Forenames:    Lilian May<br />
Mothers_Surname:<br />
Residence:    Church Lane<br />
Occupation:    [Not stated]<br />
Officiating_Minister:    Arthur E T McNamara<br />
Event:    Baptism<br />
Memoranda:<br />
Notes:<br />
Register_Reference:    P354 IN 1/18<br />
Page_Number:    76<br />
Parish_Chapel:    Westbury on Severn</p>
<p>There is a marriage for a Kate Bullock to Ivor George Askew on 19 December 1936. Father is said to be Charles Bullock and the witness is Maurice Charles Bullock and this is his birth reg:</p>
<p>Child Surname    Child Forename    Father Surname    Mother Surname   <br />
Mother's Former Name    Year    District    Office Register    Entry<br />
BULLOCK    Maurice Charles    BULLOCK    BULLOCK    BELCHER 1894   <br />
Forest of Dean    Westbury on Severn, Newnham (from 1893) 1    225</p>
<p>This birth registration tells us that he is Lilian May's brother.</p>
<p>Whilst the evidence so far suggests that the Lilian May Bullock who had a daughter Kate out of wedlock later married Albert Nelmes we must exercise caution. The decision to obtain the marriage certificate for Lilian May is a wise one.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 22:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So lilian in the workhouse isnt mine as I know she married Albert nelmes. Or am I missing something. </p>
<p>Anne</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 22:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is interesting,  My friend is Lilians grandchild.  Another daughter. She herself was born out of wedlock but fostered out rather then adopted.  Probably understood where her daughter was coming from.<br />
Anne</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 22:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Gazette :  Deceased Estates.</p>
<p>Published 26 May 1998</p>
<p>Surname: Nelmes</p>
<p>First name: Marion</p>
<p>Middle name: Alice</p>
<p>Date of death: 29 September 1997</p>
<p>Claim expires: 29 September 1997</p>
<p>address: <strong>Ampney Lane, Northwood Green, Westbury on Severn Glos</strong>  :  This is the same address as Albert William's  given in previous reply</p>
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<p><br />
There appears on Public Members Tree on Ancestry - the marriage of Lilian May BULLOCK (father Charles) to George BENNETT in 1917</p>
<p>Gloucestershirebmd</p>
<p>The marriage took place at Westbury on Severn, Register Office</p>
<p><br />
and on the 1911 census</p>
<p>Lilian May BULLOCK aged 18 - is in the Workhouse at Westbury on Severn</p>
<p>and her death at Winchester - Dec 1980</p>
<p>Lilian May BENNETT aged 88 - date of birth 30 April 1892</p>
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<p><br />
Another Public Members Tree says Lilian (father Charles) died in Australia<br />
Also George BENNETT - born 1885 - Edgehill's Mitcheldean - died 6 April 1951 in Albany Australia</p>
<p><br />
so lots of confusion.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 16:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would appear to be Lilian May in 1911 Census:</p>
<p>Name Relation to Head Birth Date Age Gender Marital Status Occupation Birth Place Address<br />
Lilian May Bullock Inmate 1893 18 Female Single Formerly Domestic servant Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire The Workhouse, Westbury On Severn, The Workhouse, Westbury On Severn<br />
Doris Bullock Inmate 1911 1/12 Female   Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire The Workhouse, Westbury On Severn, The Workhouse, Westbury On Severn</p>
<p>And this the baptism of a daughter:<br />
Year: 1911<br />
Month: May<br />
Day: 6<br />
Parents_Surname: BULLOCK<br />
Child_Forenames: Doris<br />
Fathers_Forenames: [base child]<br />
Mothers_Forenames: Lilian<br />
Mothers_Surname: <br />
Residence: Westbury<br />
Occupation: Single Woman<br />
Officiating_Minister: JSDS Stillingfleet Vicar<br />
Event: Baptism<br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P354 IN 1/18<br />
Page_Number: 55<br />
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2015 16:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,<br />
Thankyou for that.  I will keep it in mind and suggest they buy a marriage cert of there grandparents lilian and Albert Nelmes to confirm the parents names.<br />
Anne</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would appear to be the death registration of Lilian May Nelmes:<br />
Name: Lilian May Nelmes<br />
Birth Date: 21 Jul 1892<br />
Date of Registration: Dec 1982<br />
Age at Death: 90<br />
Registration district: Gloucester<br />
Inferred County: Gloucestershire<br />
Volume: 22<br />
Page: 1952</p>
<p>This gives her year of birth as 1892 and is therefore not likely to be the daughter of Joseph.</p>
<p>Checking Glos BMD we find:Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry  <br />
BULLOCK Liliam May BULLOCK BULLOCK BELCHER 1892 Gloucester Gloucester, Huntley 18 358</p>
<p>and on this site her baptism:<br />
Year: 1892<br />
Month: Aug<br />
Day: 21<br />
Parents_Surname: BULLOCK<br />
Child_Forenames: Lilian May<br />
Fathers_Forenames: Charles<br />
Mothers_Forenames: Annie Maria<br />
Mothers_Surname: <br />
Residence: Wintles Hill<br />
Occupation: Labourer<br />
Officiating_Minister: Leornard Wilkinson Vicar<br />
Event: Baptism<br />
Memoranda: Born July n/s 1892<br />
Notes: Sunday Aug 21st<br />
Register_Reference: P354 IN 1/15<br />
Page_Number: 270<br />
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn</p>
<p>This gives a good match for the date of birth quoted in the death registration.</p>
<p>Charles BULLOCK married Annie Maria BELCHER on 6 June 1892 at Westbury on Severn. Full details in the Parish Registers on the site.</p>
<p>This is the family in 1901 Census:</p>
<p>Household Number Name Relation to Head Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Birth Place<br />
Westbury on Severn<br />
20 Charles Bullock Head 32 1869 Male Westbury, Gloucestershire, England<br />
20 Annie Maria Bullock Wife 26 1875 Female Northleach, Gloucestershire, England<br />
20 Lilian May Bullock Daughter 8 1893 Female Westbury, Gloucestershire, England<br />
20 Maurice Chas Bullock Son 6 1895 Male Westbury, Gloucestershire, England<br />
20 Florence Gertrude Bullock Daughter 4 1897 Female Westbury, Gloucestershire, England<br />
20 Sidney Willis Bullock Son 2 1899 Male Westbury, Gloucestershire, England</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankyou.  </p>
<p>This is the correct family I looking for as they did have daughter Marion and lived at Northwood Green.</p>
<p>I am looking on behalf of someone else so they will have to get the marriage cert to be able to continue to see if Lilian is the Lily in the 1901 census with father Joseph.</p>
<p>Anne</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you check on Gloucestershirebdm</p>
<p>Albert William NELMES married Lilian May BULLOCK - Forest of Dean Register Office Westbury on Severn 1924</p>
<p>Ancestry Probate</p>
<p>NELMES Albert William of Ampney Lane, Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire died 23 December 1962 at Over Hospital Gloucestershire.<br />
Adminstration Gloucester 11 April to Lilian May NELMES - Widow. Effects £675.</p>
<p>Looking at the Death Index, Albert was born c1887</p>
<p>Fod records</p>
<p>Baptism at Westbury on Severn 17 April 1924</p>
<p>Marion Alice NELMES</p>
<p>parents: Albert William (labourer) and Lilian May</p>
<p>residence: Northwood Green</p>
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<p>?</p>
<p>Baptism at Blaisdon - 27 February 1887</p>
<p>Albert William NELMES - parents George (labourer) and Alice</p>
<p><br />
1901 Census, Blaisdon</p>
<p>Wintles Farm</p>
<p>NELMES</p>
<p>George - 55 - Stockman on Farm (Cattle) - born Glos. Arlingham<br />
Alice - 56 - born Wilts, Sherston<br />
Albert W - 14 - Carter boy on Farm (Horse) - born Blaisdon</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>Would anyone know if Lily m Bullock age 2 in the 1901 census married a Albert Nelmes before I go out and spend the money on a cert.<br />
Many thanks,<br />
Anne</p>
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