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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That looks right. St John's Cinderford 29th June 1873. Follows on from Sarah Ann c1857, Charlotte c1859 (died 1864), Thomas c1861, Maria c1866 and James c1871. Vague dates as from census returns not PR's. </p>
<p>Thomas James may have had a next older sister Susan who married George Wait(e) next older brother to Sarah.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The second witness at the wedding was Charlotte BEDNEY</p>
<p>On Gloucestershirebdm: BEDNEY births 1862 and 1863 (mother's maiden name WAIT(E)</p>
<p>and Fod Records:  at Cinderford St John</p>
<p>21 September 1862: John BEDNEY, parents Charles &amp; Charlotte<br />
25 December 1865 : Sabine Agness BEDNEY, parents as above</p>
<p>Freebdm</p>
<p>Charles BEDNEY married Charlotte WAIT - District : Upton (Upton on Severn, Worcestershire) - Dec Qtr 1852</p>
<p>Fod records</p>
<p>Burial at Cinderford St John: Charlotte BEDNEY - 30 November 1910 aged 76, The Nethend Inn, Woolaston</p>
<p><br />
There are previous threads on BEDNEY/WAITE/VAUGHAN on this forum</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2015 13:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankyou. I believe Thomas is on the first census return you showed, at Oakwood. He was born in 1836 as his wedding to Sarah Wait shows the follwing <br />
Record_ID: 13664<br />
Entry_Number: 193<br />
Year: 1856<br />
Month: May<br />
Day: 2<br />
Grooms_Surname: JAMES<br />
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas<br />
Grooms_Age: 20<br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor<br />
Grooms_Occupation: miner<br />
Grooms_Residence: Newnham<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: James<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Richard<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: miner<br />
Brides_Surname: WAIT<br />
Brides_Forenames: Sarah<br />
Brides_Age: 20<br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster<br />
Brides_Occupation: <br />
Brides_Residence: Newnham<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Wait<br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Samuel<br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: labourer<br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns<br />
Date_of_Banns: <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark<br />
Witness_1: Mark of Samuel Wait<br />
Witness_2: mark of Charlotte Bedney</p>
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Married at Newhnam. </p>
<p>I believe this is Thomas as he and Sarah are shown as parents of Margaret James , my gg grandmother.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2015 13:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Richard JAMES &amp; Ann FRANKLIN/FRANKLYN (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For starters</p>
<p>On the Church of Latter Day Saints</p>
<p>Richard JAMES married Ann FRANKLYN, 1834, Trevethin, Monmouthshire</p>
<p>and on Freereg</p>
<p>3 March 1834 - Trevethin Parish Church</p>
<p>Richard JAMES of this Parish, Bachelor and Ann FRANKLIN of this Parish, Spinster</p>
<p>witnesses: Peter JAMES and Mary JENKINS</p>
<p>-----</p>
<p>The two nephews i.e. Richard JAMES age 17/Thomas JAMES aged 15 </p>
<p>and Niece Martha JAMES aged 9  - </p>
<p>Gloucestershirebmd <br />
<a href="http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/">http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/</a></p>
<p>Martha JAMES - 1841, Mother's Former Name: <strong>FRANKLIN</strong>  Forest of Dean, Monmouth, Coleford</p>
<p><br />
living with their possible Uncle</p>
<p>George FRANKLYN christened at Bream 15 October 1820 - parents : Joseph (Wood Collier) and Elizabeth<br />
Sarah FRANKLIN christsened at Bream 13 May 1827</p>
<p>There are 5 earlier children of a Joseph and Susanah FRANKLIN at Bream</p>
<p>Joseph - 1801<br />
Samuel - 1804<br />
Peter 1807<br />
<strong>Mary Ann - 1811</strong> (this could possible be Ann - whose age is rounded up to 30 on the 1841 census)</p>
<p><br />
Joseph FRANKLIN married Susannah BIRT at Newland - 6 May 1798<br />
Joseph FRANKLIN (Widower) married Elizabeth JONES at Newland - 21 December 1817</p>
<p><br />
-</p>
<p><br />
?</p>
<p>Burial at Newland - 11 August 1843</p>
<p>Mary Ann JAMES - residence, Coleford age 38 years c1805  (<strong>wife of Richard)</strong>  **</p>
<p>also at Newland - 4 May 1841</p>
<p>Richard james - residence, Coleford age 35</p>
<p><br />
** Gloucestershirebdm</p>
<p>Mary Anne JAMES 1843 - age 38 Coleford Monmouth</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2015 20:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the 1841 census at Oakwood, Park Lane Oakwood</p>
<p>Quoted was</p>
<p>Richard JAMES - 30 - Miner - Y<br />
Ann JAMES - 30 - Y<br />
Richard JAMES - 6 - Y  (1851 census living with the FRANKLIN Family - Nephew)<br />
Thomas JAMES - 4 - Y  (ditto)<br />
Maria JAMES - 2 -Y</p>
<p><br />
then quoted was the 1851 census at Coalway, Coleford</p>
<p> ? not sure this is the same family as the 1841 census - as the maiden name of the children's mother quoted below is <strong>EVANS</strong> (GlosBMD) and <strong>Martha JAMES</strong> living with the FRANKLIN on <strong>GlosBDM 1841 </strong>- mother's maiden name is <strong>FRANKLIN</strong></p>
<p>Richard JAMES - 40 - Labourer, born Glos, Coleford<br />
Ann JAMES - 36 - Glos Coleford<br />
<strong>Cathrine JAMES - 10 - Glos Coleford</strong><br />
Elizabeth JAMES - 8 - Glos Coleford<br />
Eliza JAMES - 3 - Glos, Coleford<br />
James JAMES - 1 - Glos Coleford</p>
<p>?</p>
<p>think this is the family in 1841 at Coleford</p>
<p>Richard JAMES - 30<br />
Ann JAMES - 25<br />
Mary Ann JAMES - 3<br />
<strong>Catherine JAMES - 4 months</strong></p>
<p>Richard JAMES - Bachelor of Newland, married Ann EVANS, Spinster of Newland - 13 May 1837</p>
<p><br />
Assume George FRANKLIN aged 31 and a Blacksmith on the 1851 census born Bream, is Ann JAMES (nee FRANKLIN's brother)</p>
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<title>Thomas James family Parkend / Bream (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1861 England Census<br />
Sewdley [sic]<br />
East Dean</p>
<p>Thomas James - Head - Mar - 26 - Iron Miner - Gloster West Dean<br />
Sarah James - Wife - Mar - 23 - Gloster East Dean<br />
Sarah Ann James - Daur - 4 - Gloster East Dean<br />
Charlotte James - Daur - 2 - Gloster East Dean<br />
Thomas James - Son - 3 Mo - Gloster East Dean</p>
<p><br />
1871 England Census<br />
East Dean</p>
<p>Thomas James - Head - M - 34 - Miner - Glorshire West Dean<br />
Sarah James - Wife - M - 33 - Glorshire East Dean<br />
Maria James - Daur - 5 - Scholar - Glorshire East Dean<br />
James James - Son - 1 Mo - Glorshire East Dean<br />
Adelaide Lewis - Sister in Law - W - 31 - Glorshire East Dean<br />
Joseph Jones  - Boarder - Unm - 30 - Lab at Iron Works - Staffordshire<br />
Thomas Browning - Boarder - Unm - 22 - Lab on Railroad - Glorshire Awre</p>
<p><br />
1881 England Census<br />
Soudley</p>
<p>Thomas James - Head - Mar - 43 - Iron Miner - Gloster, Bream<br />
Sarah James - Wife - Mar - 41 - Gloster, East Dean<br />
Samuel James - Son - Unm - 10 - Scholar - Gloster, East Dean<br />
Margaret James - Daur - Unm - 7 - Scholar - Gloster, East Dean</p>
<p>Gloucestershire BMD Indexes:</p>
<p>Birth:-</p>
<p>Child Surname: James, Child Forename: Sarah Ann, Father Surname: James, Mother Surname: James, Mother Former Surname: Wait, Year: 1856, District: Forest of Dean, Office: Westbury on Severn, Newnham, Register: 16, Entry: 322.</p>
<p>Marriages:-</p>
<p>Groom Surname: James, Groom Forename: Thomas, Bride Surname: Wait, Bride Forename: Sarah, District: Forest of Dean, Parish: Newnham, Building: St Peter, Year: 1856, Register: 1, Entry: 193</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Background;</p>
<p>1841 England Census<br />
Oakwood<br />
Park End Walk</p>
<p>In the 1841 census the ages of adults were rounded up to the next 5 years. </p>
<p>Richard James - 30 - Miner - Y<br />
Ann James - 30 - Y<br />
Richard James - 6 - Y<br />
Thomas James - 4 - Y<br />
Maria James - 2 - Y</p>
<p>Baptism records of children:</p>
<p>Record_ID: 192432 <br />
Entry_Number: 456 <br />
Year: 1835 <br />
Month: Jul <br />
Day: 12 <br />
Parents_Surname: JAMES <br />
Child_Forenames: Richard <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Richard <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Ann <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Bream's Green <br />
Occupation: Collier <br />
Officiating_Minister: H. G. Poole Minister <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/2 <br />
Page_Number: 57 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Bream </p>
<p><br />
Record_ID: 111947 <br />
Entry_Number: 797 <br />
Year: 1836 <br />
Month: Nov <br />
Day: 27 <br />
Parents_Surname: JAMES <br />
Child_Forenames: Thomas <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Richard <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Ann <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Eaves <br />
Occupation: Collier <br />
Officiating_Minister: H[enr]y Poole Minister <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P245 IN 1/9 <br />
Page_Number: 100 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Parkend </p>
<p><br />
Record_ID: 192476 <br />
Entry_Number: 500 <br />
Year: 1838 <br />
Month: Sep <br />
Day: 30 <br />
Parents_Surname: JAMES <br />
Child_Forenames: Maria <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Richard <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Ann <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Oakwood Hill <br />
Occupation: Miner <br />
Officiating_Minister: H. G. Poole Minister <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/2 <br />
Page_Number: 63 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Bream </p>
<p>1851 England Census<br />
Coalway<br />
Coleford</p>
<p>Richard James - Head - Mar - 40 - Labourer - Glos, Coleford<br />
Ann James - Wife - Mar - 36 - Glos, Coleford<br />
Cathrine [sic] James - Daur - 10 - Glos, Coleford<br />
Elizabeth James - Daur - 8 - Glos, Coleford<br />
Eliza James - Daur - 3 - Glos, Coleford<br />
James James - Son - 1 - Glos, Coleford</p>
<p>Record_ID: 9712 <br />
Entry_Number: 1557 <br />
Year: 1842 <br />
Month: Jly <br />
Day: 23 <br />
Parents_Surname: JAMES <br />
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Richard <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Anne <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Coalway Lane <br />
Occupation: Labourer <br />
Officiating_Minister: Edwd Hawkins Perpetual Curate <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P 93 IN 1/5 <br />
Page_Number: 58 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Coleford </p>
<p>Record_ID: 10079 <br />
Entry_Number: 1924 <br />
Year: 1854 <br />
Month: Jul <br />
Day: 30 <br />
Parents_Surname: JAMES <br />
Child_Forenames: James <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Richard <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Ann <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Coleford <br />
Occupation: Labourer <br />
Officiating_Minister: J N Paztowiz <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda: Born Aug 18th 1850 <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P93 IN I/6 <br />
Page_Number: 4 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Coleford </p>
<p>1851 England Census<br />
Bradley Hill<br />
East Dean</p>
<p>George Franklin - Head - mar - 31 - Blacksmith - Gloucester, Bream<br />
Mary Franklin - Wife - Mar - 26 - Gloucester, East Dean<br />
Thomas James - Son - 5 - Gloucester, East Dean<br />
Richd James - Nephew - U - 17 - Ironminer - Gloucester, Bream<br />
Thomas James - Nephew - U - 15 - Ironminer - Gloucester, Bream<br />
Martha James - Niece - U - 9 - Gloucester, Bream<br />
Ann Nelmes - Visitor - U - 19 - Gloucester, Gloster<br />
Elizabeth Nelmes - Visitor - U - 15 - Gloucester, East Dean</p>
<p>1861 England Census<br />
Coalway Rd,<br />
Coleford</p>
<p>Richard James - Head - Mar - 50 - Stone Quarrier - Gloster, Newland<br />
Ann James - Wife - Mar - 46 - Gloster, Newland<br />
James James - Son - 11 - Scholar - Gloster, Newland<br />
Fanny James - Daur - 9 - Scholar - Gloster, Newland<br />
Sarah James - Daur - 7 - Scholar - Gloster, Newland<br />
Lucy James - Daur - 4 - Scholar - Gloster, Newland</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am researching the family of Margaret Sladen nee James.She was my great grandmother. Her father was Thomas James. I believe her mother was Sarah Wait. On her parents marriage record on this site it gives Thomas's father as Richard. Further research possibly shows the family on the 1841 census, living at Oakwood, Parkend Walk. I cannot trace the marriage of Richard to an Ann and also can't trace them in later censuses. <br />
I would be interested to hear from anyone who believes they may be related to the family and can fill in some missing details from the family tree.</p>
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