Forest of Dean FHT Forum - looking for lodge family

looking for lodge family (reply)

Olwyn — Thu, 17 Apr 2014 13:39:52 +0000

Hi.In the light of what you have found I obviously had some wrong information regarding Nancy.Sorry for that and I hope your search continues successfully.

LODGE/JONES (reply)

shepway — Mon, 14 Apr 2014 12:58:33 +0000

Reference Glos BMD Index entry:
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
MERRY Darrel Henry DAVIES Nancy Beryl Forest of Dean Bream St James 1949 7 33

As this was queried and a suggestion made that it should be David Henry MERRY as in FreeBMD index the entry in the original register has been checked. The name is definitely Darrel and it is signed Darrel.

This is his birth registration:

Births Sep 1917
Merry Darrel H Fennell Chepstow 11a 16

Mike

looking for lodge family (reply)

colin.lodge — Thu, 03 Apr 2014 16:09:28 +0000

Yes thanks jeff have been to St James in 2012 and seen the graves of Hannah and Henry lodge also leslie and earnest Edwin also Nancy davies with Leslie K davies with norman sadly died aged just 4 years. I don't believe there are any other members in the churchyard there could be,so I have much work to do to search out the rest of the family, along with hopefully help from the fod forum, which has been most helpful. I am visiting bream next Monday pm and Tuesday am and will be doing a hands on search to see if maybe some elderly residents may know something.

looking for lodge family (reply)

Jefff — Thu, 03 Apr 2014 14:09:03 +0000

Hi Colin,
sorry for being lazy and not rereading your posts - when you say you're looking for your ancestors graves, I presume you'll be visiting Bream St James Churchyard ?. I ask as my quick internet search for it gave a link to it from the CWGC website, no doubt you've seen their pages.
http://www.cwgc.org/find-a-cemetery/cemetery/38684/BREAM%20(ST.%20JAMES)%20CHURCHYARD
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/359037/LODGE,%20LESLIE%20H

I guess you have other ancestors buried there, do you have details/map/etc of their actual grave positions ?. Sadly no details on the GlosFHS cd http://gfhs.org.uk/products-page/cddvd/monumental-inscription-2003-2/

Have you contacted the Church itself to check access is ok, they may have a grave map that can help your search ?. http://www.breamchurch.org.uk/
Again apologies for probably stating the obvious, but i think you said you're visiting soon and am just trying to best help if possible.

atb Jeff, hope your visit to the area goes very well

looking for lodge family (reply)

colin.lodge — Thu, 03 Apr 2014 13:54:48 +0000

Im sorry if I have confused some of you, I do have a lodge tree on ancestery.co so all of my information is held there just in case you see public members tree, its myself!

looking for lodge family (reply)

colin.lodge — Thu, 03 Apr 2014 13:51:08 +0000

Hello Olwyn, Thanks for your input, it would be interesting to know why you believe that nancy merry had no children, I only ask as I have just in the last 12 hours by a sheer fluke managed to contact a niece of Nancys, and it appears that nancy did have one daughter, as for Kenneth I do not know. Nancy was the daughter of Rose Davies nee lodge who had 6 brothers,Arthur my grandfather,Leslie and Earnest Edwin both fought in WW1 and sadly died, bertie who married, Ralph Im really stuck on and frederick also have no info there.At least I have a link to persue with nancys daughter which I will do in due time, I have also found via the 1881 census Henrys father and mother that will be george and fanny, and looking to find where they may be buried, if you can help.Looks like george had 4 other brothers edwin,albert,George b, and Allen, I am yet to find out if they have family
My regards Colin lodge

Edna Lodge, Bream (reply)

Jefff — Thu, 03 Apr 2014 13:16:09 +0000

Could this be Edna, does the age seem correct, it seems the correct area ?

From GlosBMD,

Birth Details
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
LODGE Edna May LODGE LODGE SAUNDERS 1904 Forest of Dean Chepstow, Lydney 27 463
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx

Hopefully Edna and family can be found locally in the 1911 Census ??

Searching more Lodge/Saunders births give this possible brother

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
LODGE Albert Edward LODGE LODGE SAUNDERS 1905 Forest of Dean Chepstow, Lydney 28 215

Sadly this looks like him, from this site's PRs

Record_ID: 28718
Entry_Number: 790
Year: 1905
Month: Apr
Day: 1
Surname: LODGE
Forenames: (Albert Edward)
Residence: Lydney
Age_at_death: 10 days
Officiating_Minister: H.B.Parker Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: [Marginal Note] Unbaptised
Notes:
Register_Reference: Lydney P209 IN 1/14
Page_No: 99
Parish_Chapel: Lydney
Soundex: L320

The nearest GlosBMD Marriage for their possible parents that I can find is

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
LODGE George SAUNDERS Edith Emma Gloucester Gloucester St Luke 1893 30x No 2 311

Altho this possible? Lodge/Saunders? Marriage seems more likely, to be proven...

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Jun 1896 (>99%)
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LETHEREN Thomas Chepstow 11a 25
Lodge Edwin James Chepstow 11a 25
Saunders Rosanna Chepstow 11a 25
Slee Emily Chepstow 11a 25
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Please can someone look them up in the 1911 Census, thanks.

looking for lodge family (reply)

Olwyn — Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:29:40 +0000

Hi
I'm sorry to say that I am pretty certain that neither Nancy nor her brother Ken had any children.
There was a lady called Edna Lodge in Bream.Does that name have any meaning for you?

looking for lodge family (reply)

colin.lodge — Wed, 02 Apr 2014 22:03:57 +0000

Hi Jefff..Thanks for all the info, No I hadn't seen this photo site but I had seen various photos, and allen with the cornet is probably one of my family, a cousin of my grandfathers. Any other references to myself were false..what me at a grammer school! The R lodge is not my family, although I still have to research my grandfathers brothers Ralph,Frederick and Bertie still as they may well have family and could well be those that you refer to in 1962-63, I am actively searching and believe I have my first break now, which may lead me to these family members family whereabouts.

LODGE/JONES (reply)

colin.lodge — Wed, 02 Apr 2014 21:50:01 +0000

Thanks for info, sorry didn't scroll down to see the rest! All ok except my grandfather Im sure was Arthur Henry Lodge not Harry I have his death cert it looks more like henry, all the census's I have thanks. I have added Ernest who died of ww1 wounds I have assumed he was a bachelor as was leslie. Rose may lodge married to James George Davies (that is on his gravestone)not sure where the forenames interchanged, I have on the marriage index David H Merry married Nancy B davies, not sure where the Darrel came from, good news I have now been able to contact the daughter of Nancy Davies nee lodge,so hoping to find some new info.

looking for lodge family (reply)

Jefff — Tue, 01 Apr 2014 13:57:18 +0000

Hi Colin,
I expect you've already seen this old photo website, it can be searched altho most hits for Lodge refer to buildings not people. However for starters,

Parish Magazine of Bream St James Nov 1928 mentions a "R.Lodge" as Churchwarden etc on the first page, he may be mentioned again within the text, is this one of yours ?.
http://www.sungreen.co.uk/_Bream/_Parish_Mags_pdfs/Bream%20Parish%20Magazine%20November...

also
http://www.sungreen.co.uk/_Bream/_Parish_Mags_pdfs/Bream%20Parish%20Magazine,%20March%2...
http://www.sungreen.co.uk/_Bream/ParishMag1925_Dec.htm
http://www.sungreen.co.uk/_Bream/ParishMag1939_Mar.htm

This photo of Bream band c1917 has a young man "A.Lodge" in the back row(cornet?)
http://www.sungreen.co.uk/_Bream/BreamBand_RisingSun1917.htm

And these photo of Bells Pupils at School and at Newland in 1962/63 include a young Colin Lodge, is this you ? [If so then I see we shared some teachers, Messrs Davis(woodwork), Quayle(physics) and Margerison(History) finished their careers (or were finished!?) teaching me at RFDGS about 1973. Also Colin Evans, a lifelong family-friend and sadly-missed, nextdoorneighbours to us at Cinderford, one of his sons was my best man, a lovely family].
http://www.sungreen.co.uk/Coleford-Glos/_f_Bells-GS-1962-2.htm
http://www.sungreen.co.uk/Bells-Grammar-School/Bells%20_Pupils_Newland_1963.html
http://www.sungreen.co.uk/Coleford/xBells1963.htm

"Mr Lodge" with children in Bream c1956
http://www.sungreen.co.uk/Bream-Forest-of-Dean/Bream-Woodside-kids.htm

and so on.

Hoping this helps a little.

George DAVIES + Rose May LODGE (reply)

MPGriffiths — Tue, 01 Apr 2014 11:59:29 +0000

According to Gloucestershire BDM

Rose May LODGE married a George (not James) DAVIES - at the Forest of Dean, Monmouth Register Office in 1910.

Also on GlosBDM - births, DAVIES - mother's maiden name LODGE

George Norman Harry DAVIES - 1910, Monmouth, Glos

1911 Census, Bream Woodside

DAVIES

George - 25 - Coalminer, born Glos Bream
Rose - 23 - born Berry Hill
Norman Davies 10/12 (buried at Bream 8 December 1914 aged 4) - christened at Lydney Methodist - 27 July 1910, born 21 May 1910

Freebdm

DAVIES - mother's maiden name LODGE

Sept Qtr 1918

Leslie K DAVIES - Monmouth District

Sept Qtr 1919

Nancy B H DAVIES - Monmouth District

There is a DAVIES - mother's maiden name LODGE Dec Qtr 1910 - Toxteth P

Margaret M DAVIES

Glos bdm

Darrel (not David) Henry MERRY - married Nancy Beryl DAVIES - Forest of Dean, Bream St James 1949

Leslie K DAVIES, married Margaret SAUNDERS, Forest of Dean, Lydney St Mary the Virgin 1953

LODGE (reply)

colin.lodge — Tue, 01 Apr 2014 11:37:16 +0000

Hi Thanks for the prompt reply, I should have said that I did have bits of information and do have the info you mentioned, but many thanks anyway,I am thinking I will go down the route of tracing nancy merrys family as she did remain in the fod,will be visiting the area next monday, of course I have no idea if any of the family are still there Im hoping once I get a lead it will help, all I do know is that there could be family possibly around my age of 66, exactly where remains to be seen.Im thinking also that as Nancy and her brother kenneth were buried in St James there could be family locally, so will do some research next week,thanks again.

LODGE/JONES (reply)

MPGriffiths — Tue, 01 Apr 2014 11:25:15 +0000

Just for starters

There is, on Public Members 3 Trees on Ancestry …. one brother's line (not sure how 'active' the subscribers are?)

Bertie Edmund LODGE - born 1892

He married, Elizabeth May WHITE - in 1919 at Rotherham West Riding

and died March 1966 - Gloucester Rural, age 73

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Gloucestershire bdm - LODGE, mother's maiden names JONES (Monmouth, Coleford)
Married at Forest of Dean Register Office 1881

1882 - Arthur Harry
1883 - Frederick Vaughan
1887 - Rose Mary
1890 - Ernest Edwin
1892 - Bertie Edmund
1895 - Leslie Harold
1899 - Ralph Reginald

1901 Census, Breams Eaves

LODGE

Henry - 43 - Coal Miner, below road repairer - born Glos Littledean
Hannah - 41 - born Joyford
Frederick - 13
Rosie - 10
Ernest - 10 (died of words sustained in WW1)
Bertie - 9 (married Elizabeth May WHITE)
Leslie - 5 (died of wounds sustainted in WW1)
Ralph - 1

1891 Census, Five acres

LODGE

Henry - 32
Hannah - 30 (Hannah Maria, Public Members Tree)
Arthur - 9
Frederick - 7
Rose Mary - 3
Ernest Edward 10 months
George LODGE, father, Widow - 60 - born Five Acres

looking for lodge family

colin.lodge — Tue, 01 Apr 2014 08:17:42 +0000

I have been researching my fathers family whom I had assumed were from the Yorkshire area as my dad and his brothers were all yorkshiremen. However I now know my grandfather Arthur Lodge was born in the forest of Dean and then at the age of 19 moved up to Yorkshire, he was a miner. The 1901 census shows he had 5 brothers and one sister and I am looking to trace members of their families. His mother Hannah and Father Henry are buried in St James Bream along with his brother Leslie who died of wounds sustained in WW1,also brother earnest The other brothers were Bertie b.1893 Frederick b.1883 Ralph b.1900 and sister rose b.1887. I have discovered Rose married a James Davies they had a daughter Nancy beryl who married a David H merry and a son Leslie Kenneth, they are both buried in St James Bream. That's about as far as I have got, such a shame as Nancy only died at the end of 2010 at the grand age of 91 and I only started looking for the family in 2011, I am wondering if anyone could assist in searching for any children of Nancy Merry, which may lead me to find other members of my Gt grand fathers children. It would be so good to find anyone on my fathers side I am the only one known apart from one girl a cousin my fathers brothers daughter, I will be so grateful for any help....colin lodge