Forest of Dean FHT Forum - ELT/EVERIS

ELT/EVERIS (reply)

MPGriffiths — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:16:24 +0000

1851 Census, Severn Stoke

John Ell - widower - aged 71, Pauper, Ag. Lab - born Gloster, Twining with Thomas GRIFFITHS 18

(Ancestry, transcribed as Ell, but reads clearly ELT)

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Church of Latter Day Saints

Baptism at Twining - October 1784

John ELT, parents Benjamin & Mary

Siblings:
William 23 July 1780 (- see previous reply i.e. a William of Twining - married Susanna OKEY at Leigh - 21 March 1804) **
Benjamin - 6 January 1782
James - 1792
Nancy - 20 October 1793
Elizabeth - 5 June 1796
Edwin - 17 March 1799

(Benjamin's and Mary's marriage/burial at Twynings, in previous thread)

*** Ancestry UK Poll Books & Electoral Roll
Twining
ELT, William, House and Garden (in his own occupation)

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Looking back at my 'ramblings' (Gloucestershire/Wiltshire dialect - don't sound their 'H's i.e. ELT/HELT, being Wiltshire born myself and Grandparents from Gloucestershire)

did notice the baptism at Twynings (just to re-cap)

Henry ELT, parents : Elizabeth & Thomas EVERIS (Servant) alias EVER - 1 April 1827

1841 Census, Twinings

EVERESS

Thomas - 35 - ag. Lab
Elisabeth - 40
Benjamin - 10
Ann - 6
George - 1
Henry ELT - 14

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then again on the 1841 census

John ELLT 60
Ann - 55
6 Charles EVERIFS -

Will see if anything else turns up on my discs - and try and find more info re Thomas & Elizbeth - appears to be a number of EVERISS etc at Twynings. (1841 census named Twining)

1841/1851/1861 census : ELLT/ELB/ELT (reply)

clhbutterfly — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:08:08 +0000

Hello Mpgriffiths,
thank you so much for all your help, you have been invaluable.
It took me a couple of reads of your info but yes I do believe that you have found my Helt's.
This family is rather complicated due to the different spellings of the name but yes I think you have nailed them down.
Once again thank you, I'm off to update my tree.
Regards
Clhbutterfly

William ELLT & Susannah OAKEY (reply)

MPGriffiths — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:38:23 +0000

Looking at the Gloucestershire Marriage CD Index

John ELLT married Rosanna ORGAN at Tewkesbury - 29 July 1830

William ELLT of Twyning married Susanna OKEY at Leigh - 21 March 1804 (any connection to ODY?)

William ELLT - married Ann WENT at Cheltenham St Mary - 1 March 1834

HELT/JENKINS/LIMBRICK/MORRIS (reply)

MPGriffiths — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:03:28 +0000

For starters…….

1911 Census, 14 South View, Station, Road, Wigston Magna
Leicestershire

HELT

Henry - 65 married 28 years, 7 children born alive, 3 living, 4 dead, Boat Maker, born Worcestershire, Severn Stoke
Harriet Emily - 56 - Sub-Post Mistress and Grover, born Glos Little Dean
Elizabeth Fanny - daughter - 31 single - born Gloucestershire Little Dean
Edward James ODY - visitor - 12 - School., born Glos. Little Dean (the birth certificate will most likely help!!!)
Linda POWELL, visitor, 5 - School, born Monmouth, Newport

On the 1901 census, the family are in Little Dean and Edward James O MORRIS is aged 2 visitor, living with them.

? Baptism at Tintern, Monmouth - 14 July 1898

MORRIS
Child Forename: Not stated - no other info

Looking at Freebdm: Edward James ODY - birth is registered April/Mau/June Qtr 1898
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Just to recap : on the 1841 census, Henery ELLT, age 25, Sarah aged 20 and Elizabeth aged 1 - where living next door to
John ELLT 60 and Ann ELT -55 -

On the 1861, Henry ELB aged 33, says he was born Gloucester Twyning.

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Looking at the Gloucestershire Baptism Index CD - think this is the family (very complicated)….

Henry ELT? - 25 August 1816, Twyning St Mary Magdalene

parents : John (Wheelwright) & Ann

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There is a little group of ELLT etc on this CD at Twyning…

ELLT? Mary
13 October 1816 - parents William (Wheelwright) & Hannah

ELT Sarah
parents as above i.e. William & Hannah

ELLT Charles **
parents: Will & Hannah (occupation, Wheel wright -
address: Twyning
28 April 1822

ELT Ann
same parents as above: 8 May 1825
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ELT Daniel (rs)
Parents: Hannah & Thomas MARSHALL
Alias: MARS
Occupation: Servant
Address: Twyning - 18 July 1830

Daniel appears on the 1841 Census, Twining, living with
William ELLT - 60 - Wheelwright, all born in County
Hannah - 55
Eliza - 25
Daniel - 10

by 1861, Daniel ELT is a Master of Ellen Vessles at Warwick, aged 30 born Twining)

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ELT Eleanor **
parents: Charles & Caroline
occupation: Wheelwright
25 December 1844

ELT Henry
parents: Elizabeth & Thomas EVERIS
alias EVER
occupation: Servant
1 April 1827

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Baptism at Tewkesbury Holy Trinity - 30 September 1832

Mary Elizabeth ELT (parents: John, Wheelwright and Rose Anna)

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1851 Census, Clerkenwell

Charles ELLT - 29 - born Twyning, Glos (Ancestry has GRAYING, Glos)
Carpenter (Journeyman)
Caroline - 30 - Tewkesbury
Eleanor - 6
Charles -4 - born Middx, Clerkenwell

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Gloucestershire Burial Index at Twynings

William ELLT - 29 June 1859 age 82
Benjamin ELT - 8 May 1829 - age 79 (?FreeReg - Benjamin ELLT married Mary WHITE at Tewkesbury - 21 Sept 1778)
Mary ELT - 28 October 1832 age 78
Sarah ELT - 9 May 1837 age 17

1841/1851/1861 census : ELLT/ELB/ELT (reply)

MPGriffiths — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:22:40 +0000

Henry ELT was born in Severn STOCK

? (only 8 pages)

1841 Severn Stoke

John ELLT - 60
Anne - 55
Charles EVERIFS - 6

next door

Henery ELLT - 25
Sarah - 20
Elizabeth 1

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1851 Census, Severn Stoke
The Row

Henry ELB - 33 - Ag. Lab. born Gloucester Twyning
Elizabeth - 30 born Worcester, Hanley Castle
Ann - 9 - born Severn Stoke
William - 7 - born ditto
Henry - 5 - born ditto|
Jane - 1 - born ditto

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1861 Census, Worcester, Earls Coombe

Henry ELTZ - 15 - Cowboy born Severn Stoke

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1861 Census, Severn Stoke
The Row

Henry ELT - Widow - 40
Jane - 12
Susanna - 10
George - 7

HELT/JENKINS/LIMBRICK (reply)

clhbutterfly — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:01:57 +0000

Many thanks for getting back to me. Neither of those trees are mine but I am in touch with both the owners.
my tree is under the name of carlier.

I have a copy of Henry Helt's birth cert and it says his father was henry Helt and his mother was elizabeth Hupole.
I have been unable to find any records under these names but I did find a marriage record for Henry ELT and Elizabeth HUSSEL in upton upon severn in oct 1839. These names are so close to the names on the cert I have that they must be one and the same.

thank you for confirming the details for Edward James Ody, I now need to confirm Linda Powell's details and find out why Henry and Harriet took them in, was this something that people did during that time and did they ever officially become Helts.
Once again thank you, any other Helt info would be gratefully received.

HELT/JENKINS/LIMBRICK (reply)

MPGriffiths — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:34:12 +0000

As there are a couple of Public Members Tree on Ancestry for Henry HELT and Harriet Emily JENKINS

Carlier2FamilyTree and Tiessen ROBINSON

are either of the trees yours, as these have such a lot of information on them, which, if you already have, would save time.

From the trees

Henry on the 1851 census
Worcester St Peter

ELT

John - 56 - labourer, all born Worcester St Peter
Margaret - 26 - Gloving
Mary Ann - 12 - Gloving
John - 9
Charles - 6
Henry - 4
Elizabeth - 2
Emma - 1

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and Harriett JENKINS

1861 Census, Littledean
JENKINS Griffith - 53, Driver of horses at the Iron Works, born Frampton on Severn
Fanny - 46 - Westbury on Severn
Jane - 16
Edmund - 12
George - 10
Harriett - 6
Eliza - 4

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Gloucestershirebdm

JENKINS - Mother's Maiden name appears to be LIMBRICK and the marriages is on FoD records at Westbury on Severn - 16 May 1837, Griffiths JENKINS and Fanny LIMBRICK. Plus Fanny's birth at Westbury om Severn - 25 December 1814, parents John & Jane

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There are some previous threads on the LIMBRICK family

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Edward James ODY - 1898, Forest of Dean, Westbury on Severn (only mother's maiden name given)

henry & harriet HELT, littledean 1881-1901

clhbutterfly — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 07:32:19 +0000

Hello everyone, I'm new on here so please bare with me.
I am looking for information on my great-great grandparents, Henry Helt and Harriet Emily Jenkins.
Henry was born in severnstock in 1846, Harriet was born in Littledean in 1855.
I know from the census that they were living in church st and then broad st between 1881 and 1901. They then moved to wigston magna, Leicestershire.
They moved back to the area sometime between 1911 and 1921 as Harriet died in Upton upon Severn in 1921 and Henry in 1923.
Henry was a boot maker but expanded his business to become a news agent as well, I think Harriet worked along side him but became a sub post mistress and grocer according to 1911 census.
Any information would be welcome but I am particularly interested in the fact that they took in a couple of children, looked after them and put them through school.
these children were Edward James ODY (born 1889 littledean) and Linda POWELL (born 1906 Newport). The family story is that Henry and Harriet adopted them both and in fact my granddad and nan remember them both from visits to the Helt family.
thanks in advance
clhbutterfly