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Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840 (reply)

MPGriffiths — Thu, 18 Oct 2018 21:08:59 +0000

? What was the occupation given for William BALL ...... the father of Richard

? Witness names

Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840 (reply)

WoolTree — Thu, 18 Oct 2018 20:48:18 +0000

Just received a certified copy of Richard Ball and Jene Cecil's Marriage Certificate.

They were married on 11th August, 1840 at the Register Office in Pontypool, Monmouthshire. The Father's names were William Ball and Charles Cecil respectively.

I, and many others, am in a quandary as to Richard Ball's birthplace. Woolaston seems the most likely place somewhere in the 1812-1821 point in time.

Any suggestions or hints on locating his birthplace will be greatly appreciated.

Mel Ball

Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840 (reply)

MPGriffiths — Tue, 02 Oct 2018 16:41:34 +0000

Looking at Freebmd

for BALL marriages in Pontypool District

from September Qtr 1837 to 1845

There is another two - not sure if related

Samuel BALL - in Dec Qtr 1839
Anne BALL - in Sept Qtr 1840

Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840 (reply)

MPGriffiths — Tue, 02 Oct 2018 16:34:46 +0000

You can order the Marriage Certificate from

General Records Office

website (can't seem to do the link)

(using for the first time - use the registration process)

Marriage September Qtr 1840

Surname (s) : Richard BALL ... Jane CECIL

District: Pontypool

Volume: 26

Page : 141

(the above information is from Freebmd)

Cost £9.25 - Can order a PDF file from them which costs £6 -

Must have all the information available

Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840 (reply)

WoolTree — Tue, 02 Oct 2018 15:27:54 +0000

Where can I obtain a copy of this birth certificate

Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 37
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston

Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840 (reply)

MPGriffiths — Fri, 28 Sep 2018 21:04:34 +0000

The marriage certificate should give the name of Richard's Father - unless unknown!

Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840 (reply)

WoolTree — Fri, 28 Sep 2018 19:59:32 +0000

Thanks for the information. I have seen these names in my searches.
Without a specific birthdate and place for Richard Ball it is hard to tie the pieces together. There are a lot of Richard Balls coming up in my searches.

Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840 (reply)

WoolTree — Fri, 28 Sep 2018 19:53:37 +0000

More Information:

Father John Ball
Mother Anne Ball
Looking for marriage date and place for John and Anne.

Richard Ball married Jane Cecil around 1840 in Pontypool, Wales.

John and Anne may have had other children;

William born circa 1831
James born circa 1833
Anne born circa 1837
George born circa 1849 (mother's name listed as "Ann" not "Anne").

C. Bryan was the officiating minister at all baptisms.

Thanks again.

Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840 (reply)

MPGriffiths — Wed, 26 Sep 2018 13:35:26 +0000

Found them 'at last' on 1841 Census, Ancestry

CECIL - transcribed as CEAL
BALL - transcribed as BASS

1841, Wales Census, Monmouth, Trevethan

Charles CECIL - 60 - Smith - born in County
Mary CECIL - 65
Richard BALL - 25 - Carpenter - not born in County
Jane BALL - 20 - born in County
Mary BALL - 6 months - born in County

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On a later census, Richard says he was born c1817 - and Monmouth

and the 1871 census, has his age crossed through - Family Search - gives his age as 59 = c1812

Woolaston

There is a Richard Tamplin BALL - (base child) christened 15 March 1812 - Mother: Margaret

As the family occupation seems to be : Carpenters

in 1839 at Woolaston,

John (occupation: Carpenter) & Elizabeth BALL - had a daughter Marina, christened

1841 Census, Glos Woolaston

BALE (on Ancestry)

John BALL - 40 - Carpenter - born in County
Elizabeth BALL - 35 - not born in County
Hannah BALL - 5
Marina BALL - 2

(married Elizabeth LEWIS, 2 July 1835 at Woolaston, witnesses, Edward BALL and Eliza LEWIS)

Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840 (reply)

MPGriffiths — Wed, 26 Sep 2018 07:13:25 +0000

Richard BALL married Jane CECIL, July/August/September Qtr 1840 Pontypool, Monmouthshire

This is the 1851 census at Upper George Street, Trevethin, Ponytpool, Monmouthshire

Mary CECIL - aged 80 - Midwife & Nurse, born Caldicot, Monmouthshire
Richard BALL - aged 31 - Master Carpenter, employing no men - born Woolaston, Gloucestershire
Jane BALL - aged 29 - Laundress - born Pontypool
Mary Ann BALL - grand-daughter - 10 born Pontypool
George BALL - grandson - aged 5 - born Pontypool
George ATKINS aged 19, visitor - Under Gardener, born Somerset, Bridlington
John SHELTON, aged 22 visitor - Under Gardener, born Glos. Nympsfield

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GRO Index

Mary Ann BALL - mother's maiden name CECIL - M Qtr 1841, Pontypool

Richard Ball and Family circa 1820 to 1840

WoolTree — Wed, 26 Sep 2018 01:10:16 +0000

Richard Ball is my great, great, great grandfather. He was born in Woolaston, Gloucestershire around 1820 to 1840. We know he moved to the Pontypool area where he married Jane Cecil around 18**. He died in Pontypool area around 1891. In particular I am interested in locating any information on his parents, grandparents and siblings. Any photos would be an added benefit. Thanks in advance.