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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Evening Slowhands and Crossy,</p>
<p>Slowhands, are you suggesting that Crossy may have things confused ???.</p>
<p>I ask as, before seeing your replies, I started searching the 1881 Census UK-wide for Mary Ann West born abt 1840/1850s, spouse William.   Where-ever I looked I kept coming back to the following possibilities with the first being my strong favourite, thinking maybe it was a transcription error and should read Mary not Sarah. On now seeing your replies I now realise it seems to match your first posted marriage; </p>
<p>Name: Sarah Ann West  <br />
Age (Original): 36  <br />
Gender: Female  <br />
Birth Year: 1845  <br />
Birthplace: Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England  <br />
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife  <br />
Marital Status: Married  <br />
Occupation: ((Duster Tinworks))  <br />
Address: Well Tump  <br />
Event Place: East Dean, Gloucestershire, England  <br />
Disability:  <br />
Record Type: Household  <br />
GS Film number: 1341609  <br />
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11  <br />
Piece/Folio: 2522 / 34  <br />
Page Number: 12  <br />
Household Gender Age Birthplace <br />
Head  William West  M 35 Roughton, Wiltshire, England  <br />
Wife  Sarah Ann West  F 36 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England  <br />
Stepson  Tom <strong>Bale</strong>  M 11 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England  <br />
Daughter  Caroline West  F 7 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England  <br />
Daughter  Ruth West  F 5 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England  </p>
<p>When I realised this seemed to match your 1872 Marriage, I tried to find the original marriage as posted by Crossy, as I suspect you have tried too. However according to FreeBMD and GlosBMD the only W-o-S 1872 Marriages are;</p>
<p>Surname  First name(s)    District  Vol  Page  <br />
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Marriages Dec 1872   (&gt;99%)<br />
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BEALE  Sarah Ann    Westbury S.  6a 462    <br />
RUDGE  Joseph     Westbury S.  6a 462    <br />
THOMAS  Mary Ann     Westbury S  6a 462    <br />
WEST  William     Westbury S.  6a 462</p>
<p>GlosBMD confirms this site's PRs and your post that one of the above marriages is;</p>
<p>Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building   Year Register Entry <br />
WEST William - BEALE Sarah Ann - Forest of Dean Drybrook Holy Trinity  1872 2 98 <br />
<a href="http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx">http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx</a></p>
<p>SO... to me this suggests Crossy has got their lines crossed, I think you may also think so too Slowhands, please clarify/help, thanks muchly </p>
<p>???</p>
<p>My other less-favoured possibilities from the 1881 Census, but perhaps worthy of further work, were as follows. But am I now searching the wrong couple ??</p>
<p>Name: Mary Ann West  <br />
Age (Original): 38  <br />
Gender: Female  <br />
Birth Year: 1843  <br />
Birthplace: Blaina, Monmouthshire, England  <br />
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife  <br />
Marital Status: Married  <br />
Occupation: Dress Maker  <br />
Address: 21 Cross Street  <br />
Event Place: Llanover, Monmouthshire, England  <br />
Disability:  <br />
Record Type: Household  <br />
GS Film number: 1342261  <br />
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11  <br />
Piece/Folio: 5237 / 87  <br />
Page Number: 41  <br />
Household Gender Age Birthplace <br />
Head  William West  M 39 Blaenavon, Monmouthshire, England  <br />
Wife  Mary Ann West  F 38 Blaina, Monmouthshire, England  <br />
Daughter  Ruth West  F 12 Blaenavon, Monmouthshire, England  <br />
Daughter  Hannah M West  F 6 Blaenavon, Monmouthshire, England  <br />
Mother In Law  Elizabeth Allender  F 67 Cwmyoy, Herefordshire, England  </p>
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Name: Mary West  <br />
Age (Original): 31  <br />
Gender: Female  <br />
Birth Year: 1850  <br />
Birthplace: Bristol, Gloucestershire, Wales  <br />
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife  <br />
Marital Status: Married  <br />
Occupation: Wife Of Manufacturer  <br />
Address: 65 Oxford Street  <br />
Event Place: Swansea (Town), Glamorganshire, Wales  <br />
Disability:  <br />
Record Type: Household  <br />
GS Film number: 1342291  <br />
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11  <br />
Piece/Folio: 5357 / 131  <br />
Page Number: 12  <br />
Household Gender Age Birthplace <br />
Head  William West  M 45 Bristol, Gloucestershire, Wales  <br />
Wife  Mary West  F 31 Bristol, Gloucestershire, Wales  </p>
<p><br />
Name: Mary West  <br />
Age (Original): 35  <br />
Gender: Female  <br />
Birth Year: 1846  <br />
Birthplace: Wales  <br />
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife  <br />
Marital Status: Married  <br />
Occupation:  <br />
Address: 7 Arlington St  <br />
Event Place: Stockton Upon Tees, Durham, England  <br />
Disability:  <br />
Record Type: Household  <br />
GS Film number: 1342178  <br />
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11  <br />
Piece/Folio: 4899 / 133  <br />
Page Number: 8  <br />
Household Gender Age Birthplace <br />
Head  Wm West  M 35 Wales  <br />
Wife  Mary West  F 35 Wales  <br />
Daughter  Mary West  F 7 Stockton On Tees  <br />
Son  J G West  M 4 Stockton On Tees  <br />
Son  Thos West  M 3 Stockton On Tees  <br />
Lodger  J Mc Kenna  M 20 Hartlepool, Durham, England  </p>
<p><br />
Name: Mary Ann West  <br />
Age (Original): 29  <br />
Gender: Female  <br />
Birth Year: 1852  <br />
Birthplace: Wormsley, Herefordshire, Wales  <br />
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife  <br />
Marital Status: Married  <br />
Occupation:  <br />
Address: 14 Hinton Road  <br />
Event Place: Hereford St Martin, Herefordshire, Wales  <br />
Disability:  <br />
Record Type: Household  <br />
GS Film number: 1341625  <br />
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11  <br />
Piece/Folio: 2595 / 59  <br />
Page Number: 3  <br />
Household Gender Age Birthplace <br />
Head  William West  M 27 Kilpeck, Herefordshire, Wales  <br />
Wife  Mary Ann West  F 29 Wormsley, Herefordshire, Wales  <br />
Daughter  Nelly West  F 6 Birmingham, Warwickshire, Wales  <br />
Daughter  Ada West  F 5 Bambury, Oxfordshire, Wales  <br />
Son  William West  M 2 Hereford, Herefordshire, Wales  <br />
Son  George West  M 0 Hereford, Herefordshire, Wales</p>
<p>All from  <a href="https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&amp;query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22mary%20ann%22%7E%20%2Bsurname%3Awest%7E%20%2Bspouse_givenname%3Awilliam%7E%20%2Bspouse_surname%3Awest%7E&amp;collection_id=1321821&amp;birth_year0=1800&amp;birth_place0=8">https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&amp;query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22mar...</a></p>
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???</p>
</blockquote><p>Wires crossed, assumptions made by the looks of it</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evening Slowhands and Crossy,</p>
<p>Slowhands, are you suggesting that Crossy may have things confused ???.</p>
<p>I ask as, before seeing your replies, I started searching the 1881 Census UK-wide for Mary Ann West born abt 1840/1850s, spouse William.   Where-ever I looked I kept coming back to the following possibilities with the first being my strong favourite, thinking maybe it was a transcription error and should read Mary not Sarah. On now seeing your replies I now realise it seems to match your first posted marriage; </p>
<p>Name: Sarah Ann West  <br />
Age (Original): 36  <br />
Gender: Female  <br />
Birth Year: 1845  <br />
Birthplace: Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England  <br />
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife  <br />
Marital Status: Married  <br />
Occupation: ((Duster Tinworks))  <br />
Address: Well Tump  <br />
Event Place: East Dean, Gloucestershire, England  <br />
Disability:  <br />
Record Type: Household  <br />
GS Film number: 1341609  <br />
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11  <br />
Piece/Folio: 2522 / 34  <br />
Page Number: 12  <br />
  Household Gender Age Birthplace <br />
Head  William West  M 35 Roughton, Wiltshire, England  <br />
Wife  Sarah Ann West  F 36 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England  <br />
Stepson  Tom <strong>Bale</strong>  M 11 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England  <br />
Daughter  Caroline West  F 7 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England  <br />
Daughter  Ruth West  F 5 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England  </p>
<p>When I realised this seemed to match your 1872 Marriage, I tried to find the original marriage as posted by Crossy, as I suspect you have tried too. However according to FreeBMD and GlosBMD the only W-o-S 1872 Marriages are;</p>
<p>Surname  First name(s)    District  Vol  Page  <br />
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Marriages Dec 1872   (&gt;99%)<br />
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BEALE  Sarah Ann    Westbury S.  6a 462    <br />
RUDGE  Joseph     Westbury S.  6a 462    <br />
THOMAS  Mary Ann     Westbury S  6a 462    <br />
WEST  William     Westbury S.  6a 462</p>
<p>GlosBMD confirms this site's PRs and your post that one of the above marriages is;</p>
<p>Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building   Year Register Entry <br />
WEST William - BEALE Sarah Ann - Forest of Dean Drybrook Holy Trinity  1872 2 98 <br />
<a href="http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx">http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx</a></p>
<p>SO... to me this suggests Crossy has got their lines crossed, I think you may also think so too Slowhands, please clarify/help, thanks muchly </p>
<p>???</p>
<p><br />
  <br />
My other less-favoured possibilities from the 1881 Census, but perhaps worthy of further work, were as follows. But am I now searching the wrong couple ??</p>
<p>Name: Mary Ann West  <br />
Age (Original): 38  <br />
Gender: Female  <br />
Birth Year: 1843  <br />
Birthplace: Blaina, Monmouthshire, England  <br />
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife  <br />
Marital Status: Married  <br />
Occupation: Dress Maker  <br />
Address: 21 Cross Street  <br />
Event Place: Llanover, Monmouthshire, England  <br />
Disability:  <br />
Record Type: Household  <br />
GS Film number: 1342261  <br />
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11  <br />
Piece/Folio: 5237 / 87  <br />
Page Number: 41  <br />
  Household Gender Age Birthplace <br />
Head  William West  M 39 Blaenavon, Monmouthshire, England  <br />
Wife  Mary Ann West  F 38 Blaina, Monmouthshire, England  <br />
Daughter  Ruth West  F 12 Blaenavon, Monmouthshire, England  <br />
Daughter  Hannah M West  F 6 Blaenavon, Monmouthshire, England  <br />
Mother In Law  Elizabeth Allender  F 67 Cwmyoy, Herefordshire, England  </p>
<p><br />
Name: Mary West  <br />
Age (Original): 31  <br />
Gender: Female  <br />
Birth Year: 1850  <br />
Birthplace: Bristol, Gloucestershire, Wales  <br />
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife  <br />
Marital Status: Married  <br />
Occupation: Wife Of Manufacturer  <br />
Address: 65 Oxford Street  <br />
Event Place: Swansea (Town), Glamorganshire, Wales  <br />
Disability:  <br />
Record Type: Household  <br />
GS Film number: 1342291  <br />
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11  <br />
Piece/Folio: 5357 / 131  <br />
Page Number: 12  <br />
  Household Gender Age Birthplace <br />
Head  William West  M 45 Bristol, Gloucestershire, Wales  <br />
Wife  Mary West  F 31 Bristol, Gloucestershire, Wales  </p>
<p><br />
Name: Mary West  <br />
Age (Original): 35  <br />
Gender: Female  <br />
Birth Year: 1846  <br />
Birthplace: Wales  <br />
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife  <br />
Marital Status: Married  <br />
Occupation:  <br />
Address: 7 Arlington St  <br />
Event Place: Stockton Upon Tees, Durham, England  <br />
Disability:  <br />
Record Type: Household  <br />
GS Film number: 1342178  <br />
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11  <br />
Piece/Folio: 4899 / 133  <br />
Page Number: 8  <br />
  Household Gender Age Birthplace <br />
Head  Wm West  M 35 Wales  <br />
Wife  Mary West  F 35 Wales  <br />
Daughter  Mary West  F 7 Stockton On Tees  <br />
Son  J G West  M 4 Stockton On Tees  <br />
Son  Thos West  M 3 Stockton On Tees  <br />
Lodger  J Mc Kenna  M 20 Hartlepool, Durham, England  </p>
<p><br />
Name: Mary Ann West  <br />
Age (Original): 29  <br />
Gender: Female  <br />
Birth Year: 1852  <br />
Birthplace: Wormsley, Herefordshire, Wales  <br />
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife  <br />
Marital Status: Married  <br />
Occupation:  <br />
Address: 14 Hinton Road  <br />
Event Place: Hereford St Martin, Herefordshire, Wales  <br />
Disability:  <br />
Record Type: Household  <br />
GS Film number: 1341625  <br />
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11  <br />
Piece/Folio: 2595 / 59  <br />
Page Number: 3  <br />
  Household Gender Age Birthplace <br />
Head  William West  M 27 Kilpeck, Herefordshire, Wales  <br />
Wife  Mary Ann West  F 29 Wormsley, Herefordshire, Wales  <br />
Daughter  Nelly West  F 6 Birmingham, Warwickshire, Wales  <br />
Daughter  Ada West  F 5 Bambury, Oxfordshire, Wales  <br />
Son  William West  M 2 Hereford, Herefordshire, Wales  <br />
Son  George West  M 0 Hereford, Herefordshire, Wales</p>
<p>All from  <a href="https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&amp;query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22mary%20ann%22%7E%20%2Bsurname%3Awest%7E%20%2Bspouse_givenname%3Awilliam%7E%20%2Bspouse_surname%3Awest%7E&amp;collection_id=1321821&amp;birth_year0=1800&amp;birth_place0=8">https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&amp;query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22mar...</a></p>
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???</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hi . Anyone researching this family. Mary Ann Thomas. born 1848. Westbury on Severn.<br />
Parents. James &amp; Susannah. nee Hallier. Thomas.  Mary Ann married Wm West at Westbury on Severn in 1872.Did this couple stay in the area or move on.</p>
</blockquote><p>This doesnt seem to fit your Mary Thomas</p>
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Year: 1872 <br />
Month: Dec <br />
Day: 26 <br />
Grooms_Surname: RUDGE <br />
Grooms_Forenames: Joseph <br />
Grooms_Age: 23 <br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor <br />
Grooms_Occupation: Drapers Assistant <br />
Grooms_Residence: Bilson <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Rudge (deceased) <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: George <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Farmer <br />
Brides_Surname: THOMAS <br />
Brides_Forenames: Mary Ann <br />
Brides_Age: 21 <br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster <br />
Brides_Occupation: [not stated] <br />
Brides_Residence: Bilson <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Thomas <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Draper <br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns <br />
Date_of_Banns: [not stated] <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both Sign <br />
Witness_1: S. Richardson <br />
Witness_2: Harriet Hopkins <br />
Other_Witnesses:  <br />
Officiating_Minister: William Barker Vicar <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/7 <br />
Page_Number: 49 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hi . Anyone researching this family. Mary Ann Thomas. born 1848. Westbury on Severn.<br />
Parents. James &amp; Susannah. nee Hallier. Thomas.  Mary Ann married Wm West at Westbury on Severn in 1872.Did this couple stay in the area or move on.</p>
</blockquote><p>Year: 1872 <br />
Month: Dec <br />
Day: 29 <br />
Grooms_Surname: WEST <br />
Grooms_Forenames: William <br />
Grooms_Age: 27 <br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor <br />
Grooms_Occupation: Miller <br />
Grooms_Residence: Bilson <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: West <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Miller <br />
Brides_Surname: BEALE <br />
Brides_Forenames: Sarah Ann <br />
Brides_Age: 28 <br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster <br />
Brides_Occupation: [not stated] <br />
Brides_Residence: Bilson <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Beale (deceased) <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer <br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns <br />
Date_of_Banns: [not stated] <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark <br />
Witness_1: William Broom <br />
Witness_2: Mark of Harriet Broom <br />
Other_Witnesses:  <br />
Officiating_Minister: William Barker Vicar <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/7 <br />
Page_Number: 49 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook</p>
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<title>Mary Ann WEST  possible sighting (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hi . Anyone researching this family. Mary Ann Thomas. born 1848. Westbury on Severn.<br />
Parents. James &amp; Susannah. nee Hallier. Thomas.  Mary Ann married Wm West at Westbury on Severn in 1872.Did this couple stay in the area or move on.</p>
</blockquote><p><br />
starting to look like one to discard / re-check original posting</p>
<p>1901<br />
George T West abt 1848 Greenwich, Wiltshire, England Head South Mimms, Middlesex  Police Constable<br />
Mary Ann West abt 1847 Gloucestershire, England Wife South Mimms, Middlesex  <br />
Blase M West  abt 1887 Potters Bar Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex  <br />
Jame West  abt 1899 Potters Bar Grandson South Mimms, Middlesex</p>
<p>1891<br />
George T West  abt 1848 Greenwich Head South Mimms, Middlesex  <br />
May A West  abt 1847 Wotton Under Ba, Gloucestershire, England Wife South Mimms, Middlesex  <br />
Alice J West  abt 1873 Kinbert, Town Midde Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex  <br />
Ada K West abt 1877 Kinbert, Town Midde Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex <br />
Daisy M West  abt 1881 P Bar, Middlesex, England Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex  <br />
Linda E West abt 1883 P Bar, Middlesex, England Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex  <br />
Violet C West abt 1886 P Bar, Middlesex, England Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex  <br />
Olive M West  abt 1887 P Bar, Middlesex, England Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex</p>
<p><br />
1881<br />
George West abt 1847 Greenwich, Kent, England Head South Mimms, Middlesex  <br />
 Mary West  abt 1848 Wotton und Edge, Gloucestershire, England Wife South Mimms, Middlesex   <br />
Alice West  abt 1873 London, Middlesex, England Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex   <br />
Margaret West  abt 1875 London, Middlesex, England Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex   <br />
Ada West  abt 1877 London, Middlesex, England Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex   <br />
Daisy West   P Bar, Middlesex, England Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi . Anyone researching this family. Mary Ann Thomas. born 1848. Westbury on Severn.<br />
Parents. James &amp; Susannah. nee Hallier. Thomas.  Mary Ann married Wm West at Westbury on Severn in 1872.Did this couple stay in the area or move on.</p>
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