Can I also tell you that Martha wood married and became Martha George. On your records you have her death as 71 however on her death certificate which I have she is 67.

Thank you for all your help.

Kind regards,
Erica

Kind regards,
Erica

Mike

Thank you so much for this information!! I had got a copy of the 1901 and 1911 census. On the 1901 census she is down as 'Flossie' however 1911 Florience. I had a GRO search completed on Florence Emily Wood(s) as we were told and Florence Wood for 16.12.1900 which was definitely her D.O.B. I spoke to my aunt who said that her mother was always known as Flossie and bingo, the GRO found her birth and luckily only ONE Florence/Flossie. She never told her children anything about her family. All they knew was she was brought up in Cinderford, her D.O.B and that she had a sister. The 1911 census has a Gruty however we can not find any trace of her. My aunt has an envelope only as the letter went to her brother and he has forgotten about it. The envelope has a hospital address in Bristol and the name E or G Wood on it.
Thank you for your help.
Kind regards,
Erica

Name: Gertrude E WOOD

Birth date: abt 1907

Date of Registration: Mar 1943

Age at death: 36

Registration District: Bristol

Inferred County: Gloucestershire

Volume: 6a

Page: 294

In the 1911 census there is a mention of a Gruty who is five years old. It is strange as I can not trace her. My aunty has an envelope (she thinks her brother had the letter but Uncle David can not remember it) and it was from a hospital in Bristol in 1980. The envelope had a G or E Woods on it. My aunt thinks it was the death notification of Gruty/Emily. Aunty June thought her name was Emily however no one in the family was allowed to know anything about 'Flossie's family.

Thank you for your help once again, JUST GREAT!

Kind Regards,
Erica

Would you know if Martha had another child as there is a Gruty on the 1911 census. My aunt (Flossies daughter) told me she thought her mother had a sister. My Aunty June has an envelope only dated 1980 from a hospital where this person died. There is E Wood on the envelope however there seems to be a dispute over who had the letter in the family.

I also have the hospital address.

I can not thank you enough! It is really great to know. Yippee:)

I love this website.

Very best wishes,
Erica

Thank you for the time and trouble you have gone to, to try and help me. I have a copy of Flossies birth certificate however we knew her as Florence Emily Woods. My mum sadly is no longer with us however her sister is and brother and 16.12.1900 was definitely her (Florence's) birthday. My Aunty told me that everyone called her mother Flossie. When I had a search completed at the GRO no Florence Emily Wood was found however there was just the ONE Flossie born. No other Florence's etc. On the 1901 census she is put down as Flossie however on the 1911 census she is put as Florence. I only saw my grandmother once as I remember however my older sister remembers her well. My aunt told me that her mother told them nothing about her family so she suspected there was something and of course being an unmarried mother wasn't good in those days. Martha worked as a domestic servant (which is added to the line where Flossie is a baby on the census1901 by mistake) . There is East Dean along side Martha's name, so not sure if this is where she was working. By the 1911 census she is working as a charwoman. On the 1911 census there is another child Gruty, however we can not find her. My aunt has an envelope only, with E or G Wood on it from a hospital in Bristol in 1980 where she died however we haven't traced this person. My aunt thought she was her sister. In 1916 Martha married William George who was a widower. I guess that Martha's baby/babies were maybe the master of the house she worked for/someone she was seeing or even the man she married as he was married at the time. This is all guess work!

Was there any records kept on domestic servants?

By the way the workhouse where my grandmother was born was on her birth certificate.

Thank you so much for your help. It is a great website however I must be honest i found it difficult getting into the replies. Easy when you know how. That's why I am late getting back to you.

Thank you so much once again!!!

Record_ID: 67058
Entry_Number: 193
Year: 1904
Month: Sep
Day: 26
Parents_Surname: WOOD
Child_Forenames: Gertrude
Fathers_Forenames: [base child]
Mothers_Forenames: Matilda
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Union
Occupation: Unmarried Woman
Officiating_Minister: C Victor Stillingfleet Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P354 IN 1/18
Page_Number: 25
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn
Soundex: W300

Presume the mother's name maybe a transcription error wrt Martha ?

I cannot find an obvious match for her future marriage or death, although this looks a "possible"

???

Marriages Jun 1923 (>99%)
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Luter James Wood Pontypool 11a 321
Wood Gertrude Luter Pontypool 11a 321

FreeBMD: Births Sep 1904 (>99%)

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

WOOD Gertrude Westbury S 6a 289

This child is also recorded in Gloucestershire BMD indexes without the father's name.

I've just been trying to find out who 'Gruty' belonged to, and you go and find an earlier one! I suppose she could have been the daughter of another Wood son or daughter. I looked at the image on the 1911 and it definitely says 'Gruty' - thought it might be Gerty.

LITTLEDEAN PETTY SESSIONS

Joe Powell, of Cinderford, collier, was summoned by Martha Wood, single woman, of Lamb-lane, Cinderford, to show cause, etc. This case was adjourned from last week for the defendant to attend.-Mr Williams defended.-After hearing Charles Wilsted, collier, Cinderford, the Court dismissed the case.

1901

Street HAZEL HILL (Old Pike House)
Parish EAST DEAN
Town
City
County Gloucestershire
Country ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District HOLY TRINITY
Enumeration District 11
Municipal Ward
Parliamentary Borough FOREST OF DEAN
Registration District WESTBURY ON SEVERN
Category Census, Land & Surveys
Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Collections from Great Britain
Person 1
First Name CHARLES
Last Name PHELPS
Birth Year 1838
Age 63
Birth Town EAST DEAN
Birth County GLOUCESTERSHIRE
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household HEAD
Gender Male
Occupation LIVING ON OWN MEANS
Condition MARRIED
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 155
Page 9
Piece Number 2419
Person 2
First Name HANNAH
Last Name PHELPS
Birth Year 1839
Age 62
Birth Town EAST DEAN
Birth County GLOUCESTERSHIRE
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household WIFE
Gender Female
Occupation
Condition MARRIED
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 155
Page 9
Piece Number 2419
Person 3
First Name ALBERT
Last Name PHELPS
Birth Year 1872
Age 29
Birth Town EAST DEAN
Birth County GLOUCESTERSHIRE
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household SON
Gender Male
Occupation MASON
Condition SINGLE
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 155
Page 9
Piece Number 2419
Person 4
First Name WILLIAM
Last Name PHELPS
Birth Year 1877
Age 24
Birth Town EAST DEAN
Birth County GLOUCESTERSHIRE
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household SON
Gender Male
Occupation RAILWAY GANGER
Condition SINGLE
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Folio 155
Page 9
Piece Number 2419
Person 5
First Name TIMOTHY
Last Name PHELPS
Birth Year 1882
Age 19
Birth Town EAST DEAN
Birth County GLOUCESTERSHIRE
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household SON
Gender Male
Occupation RAILWAY GANGER
Condition SINGLE
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 155
Page 9
Piece Number 2419
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1911

Lane End, Littledean (now a Roadman for the County Council). With parents who had been married 49 years. Ten children born alive, three had died.

Record_ID: 33733
Entry_Number: 508
Year: 1884
Month: Sep
Day: 7
Parents_Surname: PHELPS
Child_Forenames: William
Fathers_Forenames: Charles
Mothers_Forenames: Hannah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Littledean
Occupation: Miner
Officiating_Minister: William Lockitt
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Boy aged 8
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 64
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: P412

Mind, from LDS Census's theres quite a few Wm Phelps in the East Dean area, so which one?
This one is the best fit I can see, St Stephens Woodside is Cinderford/Littledean Hill.

"England and Wales Census, 1901"
Name: William M Phelps
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: East Dean, Gloucestershire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Westbury On Severn
Sub-District: East Dean
Ecclesiastical Parish: Woodside St Stephens
Civil Parish: East Dean
District/Parish/County: Gloucestershire

Clearly needs a lot more work to be certain, but oddly I cannot see him for sure in the 1911 ?, or the PRs etc. Several Williams, but not "William M"s, altho that's no guarantee of course.

???

Thanks a lot Chris, very educational for me too !.