Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Pte Sidney Walter Charles BROOKES 1895-1918 R I P

Pte Sidney Walter Charles BROOKES 1895-1918 R I P (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 01 Nov 2012 07:23:09 +0000

At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

BROOKES, SIDNEY
Rank:Private
Service No:3153
Date of Death:28/11/1918
Age:23
Regiment/Service:Gloucestershire Regiment
Grave Reference
CemeteryHARTPURY WESLEYAN CHAPELYARD
Additional Information:

Son of Francis Brookes, of Ashleworth Lane, Hartpury.

1911
Sidney Charles Brookes abt 1896 Hartpury, Gloucestershire Servant Churcham and Bulley, Gloucestershire

1901
Francis Brookes abt 1857 Hartpury, Gloucestershire, England Head Hartpury, Gloucestershire
Louisa Brookes abt 1861 Maisemore, Gloucestershire, England Wife Hartpury, Gloucestershire
Alice Elize Brookes abt 1883 Hartpury, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Hartpury, Gloucestershire
Nelly Brookes abt 1890 Hartpury, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Hartpury, Gloucestershire
Florence Beatrice Brookes abt 1892 Hartpury, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Hartpury, Gloucestershire
Sidney W C Brookes abt 1896 Hartpury, Gloucestershire, England Son Hartpury, Gloucestershire
Jessie Brookes abt 1898 Maisemore, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Hartpury, Gloucestershire
Leonard N A Brookes abt 1900 Hartpury, Gloucestershire, England Son Hartpury, Gloucestershire
Albert R J Brookes abt 1901 Hartpury, Gloucestershire, England Son Hartpury, Gloucestershire

Year: 1895
Month: Jun
Day: 2
Parents_Surname: BROOKES
Child_Forenames: Sidney Walter Charles
Fathers_Forenames: Francis George
Mothers_Forenames: Louisa
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Hartpury
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: W G S Addison Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P165 IN 1/16
Page_Number: 160
Parish_Chapel: Hartpury

Pte 3153 Sidney BROOKES 2nd Glosters died Nov 1918 (reply)

Jefff — Thu, 01 Nov 2012 02:10:20 +0000

Searching for Albert & Leonard Brookes of Hartpury I cannot yet find evidence of their war service, but I found this photo of the village War Memorial which sadly does includes their elder brother Sidney who died three years after being gassed... it's to be hoped he would have at least known the outcome of the War before finally succumbing to what was probably considerable & prolonged suffering.

It contains a photo of Sidney and states he "enlisted with the 2nd Battalion of the Gloucestershire Regiment on 7th January 1915 and was send to France in March. He was "gassed" on 2nd May 1915 and was returned home. He died on 28 Nov 1918 and is buried in the churchyard of Hartpury Methodist Chapel. He was the eldest son of Francis Brookes of Broad Street, previously of Woolridge. He was 23 when he died."

Francis and Louisa Brookes had at least 11 children, the first seven of which were girls and the first two were illegitimate, presumably by Francis. Francis was a hay trusser and had been born and brought up in Hartpury. Louisa was the daughter of William and Eliza Bendall of Maisemore who later moved to Hartpury."

From GlosBDM:
Marriage Details
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
BROOKES Francis George BENDALL Louisa Gloucester Gloucester St Mary de Lode 1881 33 No 7 6

From FOD PRs:

1881 BROOKS Fanny Elizabeth, Francis George & Louisa Hartpury Labourer Hartpury
1885 BROOKS Mary Ann, Francis & Louisa Hartpury Laborer [sic] Hartpury
1883 BROOKES Alice Eliza, Francis & Louisa, Hartpury Labourer Hartpury
1886 BROOKES Rowena Elizabeth, Francis & Louisa, Hartpury Labourer Hartpury
1889 BROOKES Ellen, Francis & Louisa, Hartpury Labourer Hartpury
1892 BROOKES Florence Beatrice, Francis & Louisa, Hartpury Labourer Hartpury
1893 BROOKES Winifred, Francis & Louisa, Hartpury Labourer Hartpury
1895 BROOKES Sidney Walter Charles, Francis George & Louisa, Hartpury Labourer Hartpury
1900 BROOKES Leonard William Arthur, Francis George & Louisa, Hartpury Labourer Hartpury
1901 BROOKES Albert Reginald James, Francis George & Louisa, Hartpury Labourer Hartpury
1905 BROOKES Millicent Doris, Francis George & Louisa, Woolridge Hartpury Hay Trusser Hartpury

Record_ID: 272974
Entry_Number: 1279
Year: 1895
Month: Jun
Day: 2
Parents_Surname: BROOKES
Child_Forenames: Sidney Walter Charles
Fathers_Forenames: Francis George
Mothers_Forenames: Louisa
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Hartpury
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: W G S Addison Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P165 IN 1/16
Page_Number: 160
Parish_Chapel: Hartpury
Soundex: B622

The website states that 125 men of Hartpury served during the Great War, the Memorial lists 14 of them....
Given their older brother had enlisted and returned home wounded before they were of age, I hope young Albert & Leonard were spared service, tho' they may well have thought & even done otherwise.

http://www.hartpuryparish.org.uk/index.htm

Wounded Soldiers in WW1 (reply)

william pattern — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 09:06:13 +0000

Hi just a quick note, my great uncle George henry saysum was wounded in france on 4th november 1918.He died a year later from wounds at hampstead military hospital london on 26th november 1919 aged 22.He was the son of william and martha saysum nee miles,and lived at allastone mesne lydney and is buried in a military grave in lydney churchyard,Was told by my family that they had a real big fight with the authorities back then to get his name put on the lydney war memorial,his name is also on a plaque inside the church,regards william

Soldiers - Roll of Honour (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:32:26 +0000

Might be a nice idea to have a section on here with the names of those who fought and/or died. Another headache for you guys

rather than a specific section over the years I have added numerous "R I P" threads to honour the fallen from the FoD, such as :-

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=3351

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=1185

Also a couple of notes / articles specific to parish "rolls of honour" such as :-

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=15668

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=31897

At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

Soldiers (reply)

Jefff — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 03:26:36 +0000

Yes agreed it would be nice, altho' also very sobering when we see the full extent of the huge numbers involved from just a tiny part of the Empire !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties

Charles H LANE (reply)

Jefff — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 03:23:23 +0000

Thanks Dink, very helpfull. Glad you also find it interesting.
Pls keep it up, Jeff

Soldiers (reply)

ritpetite — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:43:39 +0000

Might be a nice idea to have a section on here with the names of those who fought and/or died. Another headache for you guys

Wounded Soldiers in WW1 (reply)

Roger Griffiths — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 19:59:04 +0000

Losses KIA in WWI were around 750,000. The number of wounded would have been 3 to 4 times that number. Some would have recovered but some would have been crippled for life.

Losses in Iraq were and Afghanistan are only reported for KIA. The wounded are never mentioned.

Researching Injured Soldiers WW1 (reply)

m p griffiths — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:31:39 +0000

Googling:

On Tuesday 8 November 2011 - Anna KING - BBC Radio Gloucestershire - gave a talk on Researching World War Soldiers on line archives....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00l7nhw

Not available to view now - but Anna KING seems to give regular talks and would be worth contacting.

Charles H LANE (reply)

dink999 — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:26:50 +0000

Jefff,

The details posted come from the weekly publication The Cheltenham Chronicle & Gloucestershire Graphic.Copies of which are held at Glos Archives & the Cheltenham Local and Family History Centre(Library)

You can see some of what I previously found on this site at

http://www.forest-of-dean.net/downloads/Newspaper/Some_Gloucester_Regiment_Soldiers_191...

I have no connection to the Lane's, my "speciality" has been in producing the Wills & Inquest data, but this WW1 stuff is starting to interest me more

Regards

Frederick Richard MERRETT/CRUMP - Broad Oak (reply)

m p griffiths — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:14:37 +0000

FOD records

Baptism at Westbury on Severn - 6 August 1896

Frederick Richard MERRETT (born 13 July 1893)

parents:

Richard (Fisherman) & Mary Jane - residence: Broad Oak

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1901 Census, Westbury on Severn
Broad Oak Cottage

MERRETT

Richard - 50 - Fisherman, born Westbury
Mary Jane - 38 - born Newnham
Clara - 12
Walter - 10
Fred - 8
Agnes - 3
Arthur - 2

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1911 Census, Westbury on Severn
Broad Oak (living in 4 rooms)

MERRITT

Richard - 59 Fisherman, born Chaxhill
Mary - 48 - married 29 years, 11 children born alive, 10 living, 1 dead - born Newnham
Walter - 21 - Fisherman - all born Broad Oak
Frederick - 17 - General Labourer
Agnes - 13
Percy - 9
Minee - granddaughter - 5

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FOD records

Marriage at Westbury on Severn 29 January 1882

Richard MERRETT/Mary Jane Elizabeth Gibbon CRUMP

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Ancestry

Death: June 1986, Forest of Dean

Frederick Richard MERRETT, birth date: 13 July 1893, age at death: 92

Charles H LANE (reply)

Jefff — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:56:16 +0000

Hi Dink,
thanks for this interesting new angle wrt the Great War.
Please, have you any particular personal links to the Lanes ?, as you may know a very common surname locally particularly across into Herefordshire - as I hadnt realised until I started researching my own small Lane branch which included a few generations of professional soldiering, as do their relatives the Beards.

I've found and read abt several! WW1 Lanes from our area while researching my own line and currently have Medal Cards and Service Records for a dozen or so applicable to me.
I'm intrigued as to how you research for Wounds rather than DiA, is this thro searching out "local" Medal Cards & Newspaper archives as I've done or do you have more specialist sources ?. I'd be gratefull to learn more, please, altho' if you're a pro Military researcher then I fully respect you may not want to share them.

Thanks eitherway !

Wounded Soldiers in WW1 Private Fred MERRETT (reply)

dink999 — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:59:35 +0000

Private Fred Merrett, 2nd Grenadier Guards

Wounded in action on 17 May 1915 in France

Son of Mr. and Mrs. R. MERRETT, Broadoak, Newnham

Private Francis Joseph LEACH - Minsterworth (reply)

m p griffiths — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:28:18 +0000

1911 Census, The Flatt, Minsterworth

LEACH

Albert Joseph - 47
Elizabeth - 45
Edgar - 22
Minnie - 20
Frank - 19
Beatrice - 12
George - 14
Emma - 11
Victor - 9
Henry - 8
Crissie - 6
Gertrude - 9 months

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1901 Census, Longney

LEACH

Albert J - 37, Mason's Labourer, born Hardwick
Elizabeth - 34 - Longney
Edgar - 12 - Longney
Minnie - 10 - Longney
Francis J - 9 - born Epney - general labourer, born Moreton Valance
Margaret 7 - born Epney
George - 4 - born Longney
Beatrice - 2 - born Longney
Emma - 2 - born Longney

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Gloucestershirebdm : mother's maiden name for these children - PACKER

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Ancestry Death Index

Francis Joseph LEACH
birth date: 5 December 1891
death: J/A/S Qtr 1978
age : 86, Gloucester

Wounded Soldiers in WW1 Private Francis J LEACH (reply)

dink999 — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:17:24 +0000

Private Francis J LEACH 1st Glo'ster Regiment

After returning to the trenches on Feb 9 1915 following an operation in England, was badly wounded on Sunday May 9 1915, his right hand being shatterd by shrapnel at Ypres.

He is now in Norwich Hospital

Son of Mrs. A. J. LEACH, Float House, Minsterworth

Charles H LANE - born Philadelphia USA - HOWELL (reply)

m p griffiths — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:30:07 +0000

Here's the 1911 census for the Post Office, Ashleworth (10 rooms)

(looking for C H LANE - but this is the family)

LANE

Harriette - 52, married 30 years, 7 children born alive - 5 living, 2 dead, born Glos. Ashleworth
Harry B LANE - son, married 2 years, Joiner, born Gloucester, Glos.
Amy H LANE - daughter - 23, Post Office Assistant, born United States of America resident
Annie C LANE - daughter - 20 - dressmaker, born United State of America residence

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1911 Census, 20 Ladysmith Road, Gloucester

Charles LANE - age 18, Single, Joiner & Carpenter, Incubator & Joinery Works, born Philadelphia, Pensy. (loding with the SMART family, head also working as a Machinist at the Incubator & Joinery Works)

1901 Census
Green
Ashleworth

LANE

Charles - 43, Joiner, born Ashleworth
Harriet - 43
Frederick J or S - 15 - Joiner, born Glos
Amy - 13 - born Phil USA
Charlotte - 11 - born Phil USA
Charles - 9 - born Phil USA

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Ancestry:

UK Incoming Passenger List

Port of Departure: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States

Arrival Date: 12 May 1899

Liverpool: England and Queenstown, Ireland

Ship name: PENNLAND

LANE

Harriet - 42 - wife
Harry - 16
Fred - 11
Amy - 9
Annie - 7
Charles - 5

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1881 Census, Ashleworth
Cottage Stream

Richard HEUGHES - 47 - labourer at Tan yard, born Upleadon
Charlotte - 43
Walter S - 16
Alice Mary HOWLL - step-daughter - 18
Charles LANE - son-in-law - 23, Joiner
Harriet LANE - 24

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??
Gloucestershirebdm - have a marriage at Glos St Mary de Lobe 1881

Harriet HOWELLS/Charles LANE

and

births

LANE/HOWELL

Charles Henry 1881 - Gloucester, Gloucester South Hamlet
Frederick Stephen - 1885 - ditto
Harry Bertram - 1882

Wounded Soldiers in WW1 Private C H LANE (reply)

dink999 — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:24:13 +0000

Private C H LANE 7th Glo'ster Regiment

Wounded at the Dardanelles on 18th July 1915, and now in hospital at Whalley, Lancashire.

His home is at the Post Office, Ashleworth

Reginald Morley FENNELL (reply)

m p griffiths — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:14:56 +0000

1911 Census
New Road
Blakeney

living in 8 rooms

married 17 years : 2 children born alive, 2 living.

FENNELL

Frederick - 62, married - Colliery Banksman - born West Dean
(no wife listed on census)
John William FENNELL - 29 - Collier Weighman - born West Dean
Reginald Morley FENNELL - 16 - Ry Waggon Repairer Collier - born West Dean
Hilda Marquerite FENNELL - 14 - School

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Ancestry

Death Index

Reginald M FENNELL

birth date: abt 1895

O/N/D Qtr 1966

age 71

Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, Volume: 7b, Page: 405

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FOD records

Married: Nellie WOOD, Spinster, Governess - 27 September 1930, Blakeney. Reginald's occupation, Railway Wagon Constructor.

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Again, not sure what happened to his brother: John William FENNELL - c1882

Wounded Soldiers in WW1 Private R M FENNELL (reply)

dink999 — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:49:00 +0000

Private R. M. FENNELL

10th Glo'ster Regiment, wounded in action in the Great advance in France, and now in Gray's Inn-road Hospital, London

Son of Mr. and Mrs. F. FENNELL, New Road, Blakeney

Wounded Soldiers in WW1 - BROOKES (reply)

m p griffiths — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:41:53 +0000

1911 Census, Ashleworth Lane, Hartpury

BROOKES

Francis - 56 - Haytrusser born Hartpury
Louisa - 49 - married 31 years, 13 children born alive, twelve living, one dead, born Maisemore
Jessie - 14 - Apprentice Dressmaking
Leonard - 11 - School
Albert - 10 - School

Albert Reginald James BROOKES - christened 1901

Ancestry: Death

Albert Reginald J BROOKES
birth date: 7 February 1901
Date of Registration: March 1986
Age at death: 85
Inferred County: Gloucester

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Not sure what happened to Leonard - did he join up? can't see his name on War Graves Commission.

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FOD records

Albert Reginald James BROOKES - was a witness at a wedding in Hartpury 7 August 1939, when Winfred BROOKS, age 45, Spinster, father: Francis George (deceased) married Arthur Joshua HARRIS.