Forest of Dean FHT Forum - IMM + previous thread

IMM + previous thread (reply)

mossup12 — Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:52:51 +0000

Hey - yes have explored that option too - can find no remarriages for Sarah and she is not on the 1891, 1901 or 1911 census.

The australian people are Henry imm (benjamins brothers) children children. Benjamin never remarried and lived alone - i have his death cert

i wonder if he bunked her off - have even thought perhaps she went with him and died at sea !!

IMM + previous thread (reply)

MPGriffiths — Tue, 29 Jul 2014 08:02:08 +0000

There have the odd occasions on this forum, when a mother who had married - left the baby with her parents - re-married - or just lived with a new 'husband' - and had another family, if I remember correctly - this second family wasn't in the same area. Although in your case, the death is in the Family Bible 1887. (Month ????)

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previous IMM thread

http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=6169

Australia Electoral Rolls (only 3 later IMM's)

Barbara Hilda IMM - 1980 - New South Wales - Mitchell
Sylvia Elizabeth IMM - 1980 - New South Wales - Mitchel
Ronald Frederick IMM - 1980 - New South Wales - Mitchell

Thomas James IMM (TIMSON) (reply)

mossup12 — Tue, 29 Jul 2014 07:59:09 +0000

Oh and benjamin died in sydney in 1936 , he was run down by a motor car. Also thomas his son who it seems he never saw from theage of 2 was always known as benny. I have yet to find if benjamin had a will but I dont think so

Thomas James IMM (TIMSON) (reply)

mossup12 — Tue, 29 Jul 2014 07:56:15 +0000

Was thinking maybe he had run off and she had reverted back to jenkins ?. Bizarely benjamins parents marriage imm was recorded as him! But I can find nothing for sarah xx

Thomas James IMM (TIMSON) (reply)

MPGriffiths — Tue, 29 Jul 2014 07:45:31 +0000

As Sarah was now an IMM - the Sarah JENKINS death age 82 doesn't seem to be the correct one.

Do you know now Benjamin IMM went to Australia.

On Ancestry: can't read full information

Australia, Electoral Rolls 1903-1980

Benjamin IMM
Electoral Year: 1930
State: New South Wales
District: Cook

(not sure why there are two of these for the same year, unless Benjamin has a son?)

Electoral Year: 1933
State: New South Wales
District: Cook

Electoral Year: 1936
State: New South Wales
District: West Sydney

Electoral Year: 1937
State: New South Wales
District: West Sydney

Thomas James IMM (TIMSON) (reply)

mossup12 — Mon, 28 Jul 2014 16:19:05 +0000

JENKINS Sarah 82 Chepstow 11a 3

do you think this is her death and should be 28 ?

Thomas James IMM (TIMSON) (reply)

mossup12 — Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:31:17 +0000

It has always been said she died in 1887. I have looked at remarriage band in 1891 census but she seems to vanish. I have been looking for her over 10 years, it so exhausting and annoying when you hit a dead end

Thomas James IMM (TIMSON) (reply)

MPGriffiths — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 20:41:25 +0000

As Benjamin IMM married Sarah JENKINS - 17 August 1885

and

Thomas James IMM was christened - 1 November 1885

? Did Benjamin go off to Australia quite soon afterwards

and did

Sarah re-marry? and/or start a new life

Looking at the witnesses to Thomas James IMM's marriage - 9 October 1915

Daisy May SYMONDS - is on the 1911 census with parents Otto SYMONDS and Kate

Gloucestershirebdm

Otto SYMONDS married Kate JENKINS - Forest of Dean Register Office Monmouth1900

Thomas James IMM (TIMSON) (reply)

mossup12 — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 18:06:04 +0000

Hmm interesting . Just cant find out what happened to sarah, benjamins wife. She vanishes btw v1885 and 1891

Thomas James IMM (TIMSON) (reply)

MPGriffiths — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 10:29:12 +0000

As you don't appear to belong to Ancestry:

Probate Records

IMM Thomas James of Kingsmoor Bream, Gloucestershire died 1 February 1947.

Probate Gloucester 8 May to George Henry ROYAL **- Coal Merchant and Bernard Martin CULLIS, fitter and turner.

Effects: £7,049 6s 9d.

Gloucestershirebdm

Thomas James IMM married Edith Matilda JAMES - Bream St James 1915

Fod Records

Thomas James TIMSON (Memoranda at the end of record: Timpson = Best guess)

age 29, Bachelor, residence: Bream

father: Benjamin TIMSON - Tin Worker

married

Edith Matilda JAMES

age 24, Spinster - residence: Bream

father: William Edward JAMES (deceased) Carpenter

by banns

witnesses: William Charles JENKINS, James Arthur JENKINS, Daisy May SYMONDS and Minnie JAMES

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Trying to find Thomas James on 1911

Still with his grand-parents living in Whitecroft 1901 census - Thomas IMM - Grandson - age 15, born Whitecroft + Sarah CROOK, Grandau - age 12 - born Blanaroln? West Dean (trying to work out her parentage).

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Christening at Bream - 12 February 1902

George Henry ROYAL, parents George (Collier) and Sarah Ann.

Gloucestershirebdm:

George Walter ROYAL married Sarah Ann ADAMS - Forest of Dean, St Briavels St Mary the Virgin 1902.

1911 Census, Bream

ROYAL

George - 35, Coal Miner Hewer, born Thornbury, Glos
Sarah - 35 - born St Briavels
Harry - 9 born Bream

+ a couple of lodgers

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Bernard Martin CULLIS - birth 1920 Cheltenham

think this is his parents:

Marriage at parkened - 13 January 1912

Thomas Henry CULLIS, age 31, Quarryman, residence: Ellwood
father: Henry Thomas CULLIS (Quarryman)
married
Rosa Alice MARTIN - age 29, Spinster,
residence: Coleford
father: Ralf MARTIN - Sculptor

by Licence

witnesses: Harry Joseph GREEN and Bessie CULLIS

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1891 Census, Coleford

MARTIN (all born Coleford)

Ralph - 31 - Stone Mason
Bertha - 29 (nee MORRIS married at Coleford - 26 September 1880)
Archibald - 10
Rosa A - 9
Ernest I - 6
Elsie M - 4

IMM/IMMINS/IMMS + JENKINS etc (reply)

mossup12 — Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:40:37 +0000

Thomas is mine 1885. Its the death of his mother sarah maria I am hoping to find. Found a death in 18s89 but says age 82 , shevwould of been 28 . Could it be wrong ?

IMM/IMMINS/IMMS + JENKINS etc (reply)

MPGriffiths — Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:36:07 +0000

Gloucestershirebdm

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/MainMenu.aspx

A number of IMM etc - mother's maiden name JENKINS (not sure which ones belong to whom, needs some work?)

IMMINS William Henry - 1882 - Forest of Dean, Monmouth Coleford

IMMINS Emma Jane - 1884 - Forest of Dean, Monmouth Coleford

IMMINS Annie Elizabeth - 1885 ditto

IMM Thomas James - 1885 - Forest of Dean, Monmouth Coleford

IMMINS Pamela - 1888 - Ditto (parents William & Eliza)

IMMINS George - 1896 - ditto

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IMMS Meschach - 1858 Forest of Dean, Monmouth Coleford

mysterious death of sarah imm nee jenkins

mossup12 — Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:15:53 +0000

For about 10 years now I have been trying to find the death of sarah imm in 1887 orcso the family bible tells me. She married benjamin imm in1885 and had a son thomas that very year. By the 1891 census thomas is living with the jenkins I.e his mothers family and was brought up by them. Benjamin had left for australia and died an old man there. I have tried eveything I cqn think of I, e different spellings, re marriage, death on ship, inquest everything. Any help greatfully received