Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Cinderford workhouse & OLIVER prior thread

Cinderford workhouse & OLIVER prior thread (reply)

unknown — Sun, 18 May 2008 09:43:13 +0000

Very interesting! Thank you, Slowhands. I shall have to organise somenone to go to the GRO to look at the records. Now that I can prepare a list of what they are looking for, we should be able to get some answers... with a bit of luck. I am also waiting for the National Archives to re-scan William's Naval service record. Then I shall know which ship he was on when he was invalided out of the Navy and THEN, with another bit of luck and no doubt a lot of digging, I shall be able to find out where he ended up in May 1895. So maybe, just maybe I'm almost getting somewhere! You never know your luck!!

Regards,
Sian.

Cinderford workhouse & OLIVER prior thread (reply)

ChrisW — Sat, 17 May 2008 08:59:28 +0000

There were NO Olivers in the Westbury-on-Severn Workhouse in the 1881 Census.

Cinderford workhouse & OLIVER prior thread (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 17 May 2008 08:55:31 +0000

no the "Cinderford" inmates were in the Workhouse located in Westbury on Severn !

and the records are held in Gloucester

Gloucestershire Archives, Clarence Row, Alvin Street, Gloucester GL1 3DW. Holdings include Guardians' minute books (1835-1930 with gaps); Ledgers (1835-1930, with gaps); Officers' service register (1850-1930); etc.

Gloucestershire Archives have the following Goal record :-

1847
william oliver
U
Littledean Parish
Q/Gc6/1
labourer
Gaol

could be father ( or uncle etc) to William 1850

Cinderford workhouse & OLIVER prior thread (reply)

unknown — Sat, 17 May 2008 08:06:37 +0000

I'm sorry. I obviously didn't express myself clearly enough. I know that James's baptismal record shows that he was born in the workhouse and by 1881 my ggrandfather was supporting the family (as he continued to do for many years); however, it doesn't necessarily mean that his father was there as well. That's what I'd like to check. I suspect that he may have cleared off before the baby was born. After all, by October he was in Portsmouth signing on as a Navy bandsman. What I'm trying to find are the workhouse records - if they exist.

Since, as you say, Westbury-on-Severn "supported Cinderford", does this mean that the records for the Westbury Workhouse would include those inmates housed in Cinderford?

Sorry not to have been clear the first time round.

Sian.

Cinderford workhouse & OLIVER prior thread (reply)

PhilipN — Sat, 17 May 2008 07:34:10 +0000

Catherine Elizabeth Hayes was baptised 25/7/1849 at Cinderford St.John's. The daughter of Arthur James and Catherine. It is with the family in Slowhands 1881 census that the two children are living in Newport in 1891.

Cinderford workhouse 1880 (reply)

PhilipN — Sat, 17 May 2008 06:53:55 +0000

On the 1881 census William appears as a Bandsman in the Royal Navy serving on the Inconstant.
By 1891 James appears to be with relatives in Monmouthshire.

Cinderford workhouse & OLIVER prior thread (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 17 May 2008 06:47:22 +0000

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=11580#p11662

Yes the Guardians of the Westbury on Severn Union workhouse "supported" the Cinderford area

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?WestburyOnSevern/WestburyOnSevern.shtml

Year: 1880
Month: Mar
Day: 31
Parents Surname: OLIVER
Child Forenames: James
Father's Forenames: William
Mother's Forenames: Catherine Elizabeth
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Cinderford Workhouse
Occupation: Musician
Officiating Minister: Chris.Jay Jones Vicar
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P354 IN 1/15
Page No: 189
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn

1881 Commercial St Cinderford
Catherine Hayes abt 1826 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Frederick J. Hayes abt 1866 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Hellena Hayes abt 1871 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
James Olovers abt 1880 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sussana Olovers abt 1879 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire

Cinderford Workhouse 1880

unknown — Sat, 17 May 2008 06:04:00 +0000

In my pursuit of William Oliver (born 1850 allegedly in Cinderford), I am trying to establish whether or not he was with his wife Catherine and daughter Susannah in 1880 when they were in Cinderford Workhouse according to the baptismal record of James Oliver. Is Cinderford Workhouse the same place as Westbury-on-Severn Workhouse? That seems to be the only one I can find so far; however the baptism record for James clearly states that he was born in Cinderford Workhouse. I'd like to try to find some records if possible, but that's not going to happen until I know exactly which set of records I'm looking for.

Can anybody help?

Regards,
Sian.