Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Jerrold and Elsie WILCE

Jerrold and Elsie WILCE (reply)

kennsmom — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 02:04:11 +0000

I would like to get in touch. My mother Estelle passed away in June 2011.

William WILCE 1843 -1911 Ruardean (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 11 Dec 2010 08:12:59 +0000

Jerrold T's father...

Jerrold and ELSIE WILCE (reply)

kennsmom — Sat, 11 Dec 2010 03:05:45 +0000

Was William Wilce (1843) Jerrolds brother?

Jerrold and Elsie WILCE (reply)

jimashton — Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:36:51 +0000

Colin

Very interesting - the deeper you look, the more involved the inter-relationships, Lucy Baldwin is a classic case.

I had not investigated the parents of Mirrium Parsons before your comments, but having found her baptism in 1857 I find I have - separately - both her parents Benjamin Parsons 1825 & 6th cousin 3 times removed Jane Tippins 1833 in my family tree, indeed if you go back 4 generations via her father William you get back to the same Thomas Wilce 1707 & Susannah Marfell 1706 I mentioned in my previous posting.

Benjamin Parsons 1825 was son of James Parsons 1794 & Mary Parker 1798 they had 8 children, their son Timothy 1816 married Ann Hall 1822 and their daughter Rhoda 1849 married Cornelius Brain 1848 son of Simeon Brain 1819 and Ann Marfell 1824.
James Parsons 1794 & Mary Parker 1798 also had a son James Parsons 1823 who married Theophillia Meredith and their daughter Mary 1847 married Timothy Yemm 1847 son of Amos Baldwin Yemm 1819 and 1st cousin 4 times removed Rebecca Marfell 1816.

The parents of James Parsons 1794 & Mary Parker 1798 were Thomas Parsons 1770 and the Lucy Baldwin you mentioned born 1771.Thomas 1770 & Lucy had 6 children. Their son John Parsons 1797 married my Great Great Great Great Aunt Ann Herbert 1797. Their son George 1804 married my Great Great Great Great Aunt Margaret Herbert 1806 - not sisters. Their son Ephraim 1817 married Amelia Baldwin 1817, daughter of Joseph Baldwin 1780 & Sarah Smart 1786. Joseph Baldwin 1780 being the brother of Lucy Baldwin 1771 who married Thomas Parsons 1770.................where we started. However I cannot end without adding a further Marfell connection - Lucy Baldwin's brother Moses Baldwin 1777 married my Great Great Great Great Great Aunt Lucy Marfell 1775.

My mother was told by her mother Jane Kate Treherne nee Marfell "never mention the Marfell family outside this house as wherever you are, there is sure to be one listening"

Jim Ashton

Jerrold and Elsie WILCE (reply)

cmfenton — Fri, 10 Dec 2010 11:44:57 +0000

Unlike Jim, I didn't have any Wilce's in my family tree until I started looking at this thread - but I have a few now! My connection is through Miriam Parsons (1857), wife of William Wilce (1843) and her g-grandmother Lucy Baldwin. I make it we are 6th cousins once-removed!
Again (as Slowhands has commented elsewhere) it just shows how inter-related many of the Forest families were.

-Colin

Jerrold and Elsie WILCE (reply)

Rwilcey — Fri, 10 Dec 2010 09:01:54 +0000

I could had sworn it was mid 70's....... goes to show how my age riddled memory is playing tricks! ha ha ha!

When did the family go over to Canada? I thought it was early 50's?
Thanks for the info, I'm loving this family sleuthing! ;-)

Cousin Rachel x

Jerrold and Elsie WILCE (reply)

kennsmom — Fri, 10 Dec 2010 00:00:32 +0000

Nana (Elsie) died in her 70's, dont have the exact date yet but that makes the 1982 theory incorrect. Also the reason explained to me that Arnold stayed behind is because his wife(your mom) didnt want to leave the UK. Will gather more info to post.
Carole

Elsie WILCE (reply)

kennsmom — Thu, 09 Dec 2010 23:43:15 +0000

no she didnt remarry. The only William I knew of was her son.

Elsie WILCE (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 09 Dec 2010 07:20:21 +0000

An idea - Did she re-marry after Jerrold's death ?

Name: Elsie Wilce
Spouse :William C Ellis
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1948
Registration district: Colchester
Registration county (inferred): Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 1182

Jerrold and Elsie WILCE (reply)

kennsmom — Thu, 09 Dec 2010 02:06:52 +0000

I can ask Aunt Babs or our Cousin Caroline (Bab's daughter). They will know. I will post the exact date then. We lived in Texas then and I remember my mom flying up but not sure of the date. I didnt think it was 1982 either. I do know my mom and Aunt Enid went to Canada first and settled in, then sent for the family. Don't know why your dad stayed behind but maybe I can get that information too.

Carole

Jerrold and Elsie WILCE (reply)

Rwilcey — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:04:45 +0000

Hi Cousin!

thanks for the warning, I'll amend that. Although I use this e-mail addy just for webstuff not anything else and it's available all over the net so not too concerned but don't want to upset the apple cart!

I'm sure Elsie died around the mid 70's despite the post saying her death was registered in '82. Maybe my memory is playing tricks on me, unfortunately I don't know who to ask.....I'll see if one of my siblings has a better memory than me!

Does anyone have any idea what took the whole family off to Canada post war and my Dad stayed here in blighty?

R x

Jerrold and Elsie WILCE (reply)

jimashton — Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:39:48 +0000

Hi Rachel

I expect "Admin" are too busy watching the cricket in Australia. Normally A warning to delete your email address would appear. It is dangerous to publish your email address anywhere on the internet, there are automatic machines that trawl the internet looking for email addresses to attack or send spam to. Just click on edit and delete it.

You might like to know that you are my 9th cousin once removed. Not a close relationship but we are related. I have 228 Wilce's in my Family Tree. My main interest is the Marfell family.

If you go back 4 generations from the John Wilce 1817 who married Ester Cook in 1840 you come to Thomas Wilce 1707 who married Susannah Marfell 1706 on 15 Oct 1730.

Jim Ashton

Elsie Hilda WILCE 1897 - 1982 (?) (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 07 Dec 2010 09:42:28 +0000

Name: Elsie Wilce
Birth Date: 30 Nov 1897
Death Registration Month/Year: 1982
Registration district: Forest of Dean
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 22
Page: 1574

Jerrold and Elsie WILCE (reply)

Rwilcey — Tue, 07 Dec 2010 08:57:44 +0000

Hi Kennsmom, if you're a grand-daughter, then we must be cousins! They're my grandparents too. My Dad was the eldest of their children, Arnold.

I think Elsie passed away in 1976, it definitely wasn't '70 because I remember my Dad being upset I was quite young, but I do remember.

Rachel Wilce

Deleted E-mail on advice....... but it's easy enough it's wilcey at hotmail dot co dot UK. (I hope that is understandable without being spam-bot traceable!) If you want to get in touch and swap family stuff please do so! :-)

Jerrold and Elsie WILCE (reply)

kennsmom — Tue, 07 Dec 2010 06:14:37 +0000

Hello, I am the grand daughter of Jerrold and Elsie Wilce. My mother is Estelle. My daughter is doing a family tree project at school and we came across this site. Its amazing. I hope to get more information to share.

Elsie Wilce passed away approx 1970.

Jerrold and Elsie WILCE (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 01 Oct 2010 07:35:03 +0000

Welcome !

I think that you will find a fair amount of info here already... please note we try to "stop" before we get to living relatives .

Gerarld and Elsie WILCE (reply)

Rwilcey — Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:01:57 +0000

Hi,
I am Rachel Wilce. (Fiona's sister)
Gerald & Elsie Wilce were my grandparents, although I don't have an awful lot of information about them. I'd love to know more abou that side of the family though.
R x

John WILCE 1817 Ruardean (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 20:09:33 +0000

1841 Lydbrook / Morse area
John Wilce abt 1817 Ruardean, Gloucestershire Stone Cutter
Estes Wilce abt 1824 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean, Gloucestershire

Name: John Wilce
Name: Esther Cook
Year of Registration: 1840
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Ross
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 26
Page: 275

Year: 1822 ??
Month: Aug
Day: 25
Parents_Surname: COOK
Child_Forenames: Esther
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Betty
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Jn HORLICK
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean Independent

Year: 1817
Month: Mar
Day: 13
Parents_Surname: WILCE
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Hannah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Forest of Dean
Occupation: Quarryman
Officiating_Minister: T. D. Fosbrooke Min[iste]r
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: son of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 25
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

Year: 1810
Month: Nov
Day: 12
Grooms_Surname: WILCE
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence:
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: GAGG
Brides_Forenames: Hannah
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Ruardean
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both signed
Witness_1: John GAGG
Witness_2: Sarah WILCE
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: J H BEESTON - minister
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 0
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

which John WILCE ??

Year: 1786
Month: May
Day: 14
Parents_Surname: GAGG
Child_Forenames: Hannah
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 4
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

Company Sergeant Major Jerrold Tippins WILCE 1898-1947 R I P (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:32:29 +0000

At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

WWI record
Name: Jerrold T Wilce
Regiment or Corps: Tank Corps
Regimental Number: 70180

Name: Jerrold T WILCE
Age 47
Year of Registration: 1947
Quarter of Registration: Jan Feb Mar
District: Chelsea
Volume: 5c
Page: 482

Name: WILCE, JERROLD TIPPINS
Initials: J T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Warrant Officer Class II (C.S.M.)
Regiment/Service: The Queen's Royal Regiment (West Surrey)
Unit Text: 30th Bn.
Date of Death: 10/01/1947
Service No: 2730326
Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. William Wilce; husband of Elsie Hilda Wilce, of Chelsea.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Plot N. Grave 194633.
Cemetery: BROMPTON CEMETERY

Gerarld and Elsie WILCE (reply)

daisybones — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 21:37:49 +0000

Hello cmwilce,
I am Fiona Webster (Wilce) and have just started to compile my family tree. I found this site and was very surprised to find that i was on it with details of me and my family!!! Are you also doing the family tree? I guess we are related? My grandparents were Jerrold and Elsie and my father Arnold. Would love to hear more about the Wilce family.
Look forward to hearing from you

Fiona Webster (Wilce)