Forest of Dean FHT Forum - My WINTLE family plus

My WINTLE family plus (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:29:33 +0000

Dear Judy,
I think I can fill you in on quite a few of these Wintles if you care to contact me.
Kind regards,
Ann Jackman

Ann

Judy / Gallus hasn't been on the forum for a while

My WINTLE family plus (reply)

Ann Jackman — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:13:31 +0000

Dear Judy,
I think I can fill you in on quite a few of these Wintles if you care to contact me.
Kind regards,
Ann Jackman

YEMM and BRAIN (reply)

jimashton — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:49:54 +0000

Hi Barbara

You need to be more specific about which Lucy Baldwin, I have 7 Lucy Baldwin's apart from any that became Lucy Baldwin by marriage. Regarding the 1881 Census, I have a Lucy Baldwin baptised Mitcheldean 22 July 1960, daughter of George Baldwin & Jane Burris who married Timothy Marfell in 1883, she was a servant in 1881 :

1881 Census
Dwelling: Hyde Court
Census Place: Minchinhampton, Gloucester, England
Source: FHL Film 1341615 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2549 Folio 113 Page 14
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Dorothea M. BEALE W 80 F London, Middlesex, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Annuitant
Mary Henrietta BEALE U 54 F Stratford, Essex, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Dividends
Elizabeth GERARD U 27 F Wexford, Ireland
Rel: Visitor
Occ: Governess
Eleanor BAKER U 26 F Mangotsfield, Gloucester, England
Rel: Serv
Occ: Nurse Domestic
Lucy BALDWIN U 21 F Mitcheldean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Serv
Occ: Cook Domestic

Another Lucy baptised Abenhall 15 Mar 1861 daughter of David Baldwin & Mary Ann Malson who married Edward Charles Davis in 1885.

Of course Lucy Baldwin 1858 was already married to William Yemm/Bosley so would not appear using her maiden name.

Moving beyond the 1700's I have one more who could have appeared on the 1881 Census Lucy Baldwin baptised 21 Jan 1836 Drybrook, daughter of Cornelius Baldwin & Sarah Brain.

These are just the one in my family tree, there were no doubt lots more.

Jim Ashton

John BOSELEY / YEMM , Harry Hill prior thread (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:45:12 +0000

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=5312

Year: 1879
Month: Jun
Day: 21
Grooms_Surname: YEMM
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age: 21
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Coal Miner
Grooms_Residence: Harry Hill
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Yemm
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Coal Miner
Brides_Surname: BALDWIN
Brides_Forenames: Lucy
Brides_Age: 20
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Harry Hill
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Baldwin
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Cornelius
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Coal Miner
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both Sign
Witness_1: John Brain
Witness_2: S. S. Yemm
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: William Barker Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 167
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

1871 Harry Hill [YEMM transcribed as Simer !]
John Simer abt 1828 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah Simer abt 1827 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Cromwell Simer abt 1862 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
George Simer abt 1858 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
James Simer abt 1865 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
John Simer abt 1867 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah Ann Simerabt 1860 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
William Simer abt 1858 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire

YEMM and BRAIN (reply)

Barbara Edmonds — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:34:10 +0000

I am going to have a nervous breakdown !!!! I am researching my nieces tree for her. Part of her tree takes in Lucy Baldwin and William Yemm married 21.6. 1879.
Some trees on Ancestry.com have William Bosley Yemm entered as Lucy's husband. Where did the Bosley come from ? I think the above Lucy married plain William Yemm, but am so confused.

Also there is a Lucy Ann Baldwin, boarding with Thomas Yemm in 1881. So couldn't be the same Lucy as she would have been a Yemm by then.

Could someone please tell me which Lucy belongs to whom, and who are her parents ?
My brain is completely addled !

If anyone can help....

I would be so pleased.

Regards

Barbara

Lucy BALDWIN (reply)

janetmp — Fri, 25 May 2007 09:08:05 +0000

Thanks for your reply.

I am not on the same line as you obviously. How sad!
Wendy

Lucy BALDWIN (reply)

Dewey — Fri, 25 May 2007 08:09:06 +0000

Lucy Baldwin who married Wiliam Yemm, later known as William Bosley, Was the oldest daughter of Cornelius Baldwin and Ann Meek. To me William and Lucy were my grandparents.
Dewey

WINTLE and YEMM (reply)

Sophronia — Fri, 25 May 2007 07:07:05 +0000

Hi Jim,

Many thanks for the census records. I've entered them into my program, along with the names of the children and possible birthdates.

As I am in touch directly with Dewey Bosley, you are excused, lol. I'm sure between the three of us (and others) we will be able to piece this family tree together.

Regards,

Nancy Frey
Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA

Lucy BALDWIN (reply)

janetmp — Fri, 25 May 2007 05:52:16 +0000

Is this the Lucy Baldwin the daughter of benjamin Baldwin and Louisa Griffiths? It is possible we have a connection here.
this message is from Wendy Baldwin.

WINTLE and YEMM (reply)

jimashton — Fri, 25 May 2007 05:41:19 +0000

Hi Nancy

A good question about the dates, I had them as dates of birth, I believe that is how they were advised to me. However, I have just checked the Drybrook Parish records on this site and find they are baptisms at the Church of the Holy Trinity Drybrook - "The Forest Church". The only one I couldn't find was William. Sarah Ann is actually shown as baptised 5th February 1860 as Sarah JANE, however, Census records for her and spouse John Brain, shows Sarah Ann :

1881 Census
Dwelling: 8 Harry Hill
Census Place: (Westbury On Severn) East Dean, Gloucester, England
Source: FHL Film 1341608 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2521 Folio 97 Page 15
John BRAIN M 25 M East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Coal Miner
Sarah Ann BRAIN M 21 F East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Wife
Gilbert J. BRAIN 4 m M East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Son

1891 Census East Dean RG12/2004/190
John Brain 35 Drybrook CM
Sarah Ann 31 Drybrook
Ronald G 8 Drybrook
Ivor W 6 Drybrook
Albert T 3 Drybrook

1901 Census East Dean
John Brain 45 CM Harry Hill
Sarah A 41 Harry Hill
Rowland 18 CM Harry Hill
Ivor 16 CM Harry Hill
Albert 12 Drybrook
Clara 6 Drybrook
Christopher 4 Drybrook

I will now bow out and leave this to Dewey, the undoubted expert on this family who I have had the pleasure of communicating with in the past.

Jim Ashton

WINTLE and YEMM (reply)

Sophronia — Wed, 23 May 2007 08:00:22 +0000

Hi Dewey,

Thanks for the information. Are those dates birthdates or baptisms? Do you know where they were born/baptised?

I would be interested to know more about the emigration of William, just to have the records complete.

How far back have you gone with the WINTLE/YEMM line?

Nancy Frey
Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA

WINTLE and YEMM (reply)

Dewey — Wed, 23 May 2007 07:43:36 +0000

Nancy,
John and Sarah Yemm had the following children:
George b.Aug 26, 1855
William b. Oct 18, 1857
Sarah Ann b. Dec 5, 1860
Emanuel b. June 22, 1862
Jane b. Oct 9, 1864
John b. Sept 23, 1866

William was the only one who emigrated. The others all remained in the FOD area. John did come to the US to visit his brother William sometime between 1900 and 1910.

Dewey

WINTLE and YEMM (reply)

Sophronia — Wed, 23 May 2007 06:56:47 +0000

Hi Jim,

Thanks for confirming the information I have, and adding the actual date of the marriage. So far I have two children for John YEMM & Sarah WILLIAMS being:

William 18 Oct 1857
Sarah Ann 5 Dec 1860

Did they have any more children?

Nancy Frey
Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA

WINTLE and YEMM (reply)

jimashton — Wed, 23 May 2007 01:16:33 +0000

Hi Nancy

Too many Sarah Ann's. The Sarah Ann born 5.2.1860 is the daughter of John Yemm born 20.2.1831 & Sarah Williams who were married in Cinderford 7.6.1855. John Yemm being the son of Emanuel Yemm & Sarah Wintle.

Jim Ashton

YEMM and BRAIN (reply)

Sophronia — Tue, 22 May 2007 12:50:53 +0000

HI Dewey,

Many thanks for giving me this information. I have now entered the brief details you gave into my genealogy program, and will attempt to get further information.

I have the following citations for the birth/baptism of my earlier Sarah Ann YEMM:

Sarah Ann YEM baptised 20 Aug 1837 Abenhall, Gloucester. Parents Amanuel & Sarah YEMM. Father's Occ: Lab. Residence Abinghall, Gloucester. (FofD)
Sarah Ann YEMM registered 3rd Qtr 1837 Westbury on Severn Vol 11, Pg 33(FreeBMD)

There was a death registered for Sarah YEMM buried 22 Feb 1845, age 5, Abenhall, Gloucester. Residence East Dean. (FofD) But my Sarah Ann YEMM would have been about 8 in 1845, so I'm not sure who this is.

I also have three Jane YEMMs born to Emanuel YEMM & Sarah WINTLE as follows:

Jane YEMM baptised 27 Aug 1837 Mitchel Dean, Gloucester. Parents Emanuel & Sarah YEMM. Father's Occ: Lab (FofD)
Jane YEMM baptised 21 Jul 1835 Abenhall, Gloucester. Parents Emanuel & Sarah YEMM. Father's Occ: Lab. Place of Residence Abinghall, Gloucester. (FofD)
Jane YEM baptised 20 Aug 1837 Abenhall, Gloucester. Parents Emanuel & Sarah YEMM. Father's Occ: Lab. Residence Abinghall, Gloucester. (FofD)

(FofD) means I obtained the information from the Forest of Dean website.

Perhaps the first two died young. I haven't looked for death records yet.

My main interest here is in the WINTLE family. If you have any information in that branch of this family tree, I'd be pleased to hear about it.

Nancy Frey
Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA

YEMM and BRAIN (reply)

Dewey — Tue, 22 May 2007 10:51:43 +0000

Hi Nancy,
Wiliam Yemm and Lucy Baldwin are my grandparents. The Sarah Ann Yemm who married John Brain was his sister. William and Sarah Ann were children of John and Sarah (nee Williams) Yemm. John then was the son of Emanuel and Sarah. The 1837 Sarah you have would have been a sister of John although I have her listed as Jane.
It was not only William who changed his name to Bosley, all the descendents of Emanuel and Sarah seem to have made the same change in the late 1800s.
Dewey Bosley , Saratoga County, NY

WINTLE and YEMM (reply)

Sophronia — Tue, 22 May 2007 09:32:42 +0000

H Jim,

Your posting interested me, especially this paragraph:

(2) Sarah Ann Yemm born 5.12.1860 married John Brain born 1856 who is related to me. William Yemm born 18.10.1857(who later changed his surname to Bosley) married Lucy Baldwin born 4.8.1858 who is related to me - the parents of this Sarah Ann Yemm and William Yemm were Emanual Yemm born 26.11.1804 & Sarah Wintle. Sarah being the daughter of Joseph Wintle & Elizabeth.

I have Emanuel YEMM born 26 Nov 1801, Abenhall, Gloucester married to Sarah WINTLE baptised 4 Jul 1804 Mitcheldean, Gloucester in my family tree. But I have the birth date of their daughter Sarah Ann as 20 Aug 1837. Was this an earlier Sarah Ann who died? I would think that another child born in 1860 would belong to the next generation, as Emanuel & Sarah married in 1824.

Can you clarify this for me?

Nancy Frey
Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA

My WINTLE family plus (reply)

gallus — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:13:49 +0000

Thankyou Jim,
I did as you suggested & edited my message.
The Wintle line is a confusing one to me and I only come back to it now & then.
Your names of Marfell and Coleman are in my lot too, but not your ones you mentioned.
My GGG grandmothers mothers name was Mary Wintle b abt 1871, she married John Wilkins in 1796 at Westbury on Severn-they had 8children, one being my ggg g/mother Ann Wilkins who in turn married Henry Farmer.

Mary Wintle Wilkins parents were Jonathan Wintle and Ann ?

Thanks for your reply.......judy in Australia

My WINTLE family plus (reply)

jimashton — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 06:48:51 +0000

Hi Gallus

Firstly for reasons of your own security, I would suggest you edit your entry and delete your email address. People wishing to contact you by email can do so by clicking the email box. Your address being displayed openly can be picked up by machines trawling for addresses.

My main interest is the Marfell Family, but I tend to record the siblings and parents of spouses so I have a number of connections that may be of interest:

(1) Thomas Woolley born 1865 married Naomi Jane Marfell born 1865 at Weston under Penyard 30.10.1888. Thomas Woolley had a brother William Easthope Woolley born 1867 who married Sophia Wintle born 1864. Sophia being the daughter of Thomas Wintle & Mary Jane Coleman. William Easthope Woolley & Sophia Wintle had a son Charles Percy Woolley born 1889 who married Phylis Maud Wintle born 1894, daughter of Thomas Clark Wintle born 1867 & Emily Fanny Hart born 1866.

(3) Susannah Knight Addis born 1800 married George Marfell born 1804, Susannah Knight Addis being the daughter of Jonathon Addis born 1762 & Ann Wintle born 5.8.1762, Ann Wintle being the daughter of Jonathon Wintle & Ann Wintle.

If you trawl back through the notice board you will find details of the Wintle family, plus photographs in the photo gallery.

Jim Ashton

My WINTLE family plus

gallus — Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:41:38 +0000

HELLO I have just found your site and here are my Wintle family with spouses, Does anyone reconise any names, if so I'd love to hear from you
Judy
Report
Name Spouse Birth date Birth location Death date
Wintle, Abigail Newton, Robert
Wintle, Abigail Abt. 20 September 1702 Ross
Wintle, Amelia 1791 Coleford, England
Wintle, Ann Bullocke, ??
Wintle, Ann Addis, John 1762 Hope Mansell
Wintle, Anne M. Hunter, William 10 May 1844 Pontnewyndd, England 04 March 1913
Wintle, Charles M. Howell, Helen Elizabeth 30 October 1859 Abersychan, Monmouthshire, Wales 31 October 1941
Wintle, Charlotte 1789 Coleford, England
Wintle, Elizabeth Drinkwater, George
Wintle, Elizabeth Bef. 1727
Wintle, Elizabeth 1786 Coleford, England
Wintle, Harriet 1787 Coleford, England
Wintle, Henry Smithey, Mary 30 June 1813 Forest of Dean, Llansamlet, Glamorgan, Wales 09 March 1889
Wintle, Jane R. Moore, Richard 21 December 1841 England 12 January 1917
Wintle, John Jackson, Mary
Wintle, John Addis, Joanna Callow, Formerly Blaisdon, Gloucester, England
Wintle, John Bef. 1727
Wintle, John Welch, Sarah
Wintle, John
Wintle, John
Wintle, John 1694
Wintle, John December 1699
Wintle, John Mary 22 December 1699
Wintle, John Abt. 12 April 1588 1655
Wintle, John Williams, Elizabeth 1759 Newlands 08 April 1798
Wintle, John Hill, Sarah 10 May 1759 England
Wintle, John Whitehead, Jane 02 September 1835 Pontypool, Monmouth, England 29 July 1913
Wintle, Jonathan Morwent, Jane 30 July 1773
Wintle, Jonathan Ann
Wintle, Jonathan Sarah Abt. 1671 Abt. 17 May 1731
Wintle, Jonathan Underwood, Sarah 1699 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England
Wintle, Jonathan Ann Abt. 1747 Bef. 15 January 1810
Wintle, Joseph Powell, Mary
Wintle, Joseph Monroe, Isabel 14 November 1846 Pontypool, Trevethin, Monmouthshire, England 13 July 1905
Wintle, Joshua
Wintle, Joshua Elizabeth 1707
Wintle, Male ??, Joanna
Wintle, Maria 1783 Newlands
Wintle, Mary
Wintle, Mary
Wintle, Mary Hayle, Richard
Wintle, Mary Parry, John Bet. 1697 - 1698
Wintle, Mary Bet. 23 December 1700 - 1701 Ross
Wintle, Mary Hill, John 1729
Wintle, Mary Wilkins, John Abt. 1781 Westbury on Severn, Gloucester, England Bet. 1841 - 1851
Wintle, Mary Addis, Henry 1810 Westbury, Gloucester, England 23 June 1868
Wintle, Nanny 1784 Coleford, England 18 August 1793
Wintle, Richard Mary 23 March 1743/44
Wintle, Richard ?, Elizabeth Abt. 23 December 1620
Wintle, Richard 23 October 1660 Blaisdon, England
Wintle, Richard August 1774 30 November 1774
Wintle, Robert James, Mary
Wintle, Robert Seymour, Abigail
Wintle, Robert Morris, Mary
Wintle, Robert (Fouler), Mary Abt. 1630 1689
Wintle, Samuel Bullock, Margaret
Wintle, Samuel Abt. 1716
Wintle, Sarah Baker, John
Wintle, Sarah 1707
Wintle, Sarah Shaw, Thomas 08 December 1839 Monmouth Row, British, Talywain Aft. 1882
Wintle, Susan Dawe, ??
Wintle, Susannah Jordan, Thomas H. 14 June 1849 Trevethin, Monmouthshire, England 1923
Wintle, Thomas 08 March 1837 17 April 1847
Wintle, Thomas Morgan Evans, Ellen Margaret 03 August 1855 Pontnewyndd, near Pontypool, Trevethin, Monmouthshire, Wales 06 March 1926
Wintle, William Henry Powell, Mary Ann 21 June 1852 Abersychan, Trevethin, Monmouthshire, England 1891