Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Henry MORSE (boxer morse) Aylburton

Henry MORSE (boxer morse) Aylburton (reply)

Cathydyer — Fri, 28 May 2021 07:19:51 +0000

My great grandfather was Thomas George Morse b.1845, brother of a Henry Morse b.1856 who lived at 19 Upper Common, Aylburton until 1940. I think he went to America in the 1890s, returning in 1899. Was he the boxer Morse and why?

Paul email me please (reply)

kiwiceltic — Mon, 26 Sep 2011 02:16:01 +0000

Joseph MORSE (06 Mar 1859 The Hoggins, St.Briavels, Gloucestershire-10 Sep 1909 County Asylum, Gloucestershire, England)
m.08 Jul 1884 St.Briavels Hannah PALMER
1.Richard MORSE (31 May 1885 Closeturf Farm. St.Briavels)

2.Rose MORSE (26 Aug 1888 Hoggins Green, St.Briavels-)
Md:26 April 1920 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Frank LEGGE(
This is all I have on ur branch.

MORSE (Changes when using IGI Batch No's) (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 20 Sep 2011 06:29:31 +0000

Chris

As discussed (off-line) it does seem Hugh WALLIS, IGI Batch No's site, is having problems at the moment 'Due to changes on the LDS Site and is currently unavailable'. Comments left by Users suggest amongst other things, the 'fancy changes' are not necessary. Still trying to work out the new system.

MORSE clan St Briavels & Aylburton (reply)

unknown — Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:29:15 +0000

Thanks Chris .
regard paul

Laban PALMER 1841/1851/1861/1871 census + RUCK (reply)

unknown — Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:27:52 +0000

Thank you M p griffiths.great information :)

Laban PALMER 1841/1851/1861/1871 census + RUCK (reply)

m p griffiths — Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:57:16 +0000

Church of Latter Day Saints - baptism at Llangarren, Hereford - 11 July 1824

Labon PALMER - parents John & Sarah

On the 1841 Census, Laban PALMER age 13 is working as a Servant on the Farm of Jn SMITH in Hereford Ross

1851 Census,
Herefordshire, Llangarren

Little Field

PALMER

Laban - 24 - Ag. Lab. born St Weonards
Sarah - 65 - Widow - Pauper - born ditto

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As transcribed on Ancestry

1861 Census, Herefordshire, Civil Parish, St Weonard, ***
Broad Oak

PALMER

Labon - 35 - Ag Lab, all born Herefordshre
Ann - 31 (? nee RUCK)
Cathrome 9
Hannah - 6

1871 Census, Glos. Hewlesfield

PALENCAR

Laban - 45 - born Langran
Ann - 41 - born Hurcups transcribed as
Catherine - 19 - born Lagran

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? again transcribed on Ancestry as

1851 Census, Herefordshire
Garway
White ROCKS

RUCK

Richard - 62 - Born Orcup, Herefordshire
Harriet - 63 - born Hentland
Ann - 20 (transcribed as wife) - born Orcup
Hannah -13 - born Lanwaone

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1841 Census, Herefordshire,
Garway

RUCK

Richard - 50 Ag Lab
Harriott - 45
Ann - 10
Elizabeth - 7
Hanah - 4
Mary - 7 months

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1871 Census, Glos.Woolaston

Platts House

HIGGINS

Allen - 33, Retired Farmer, born Fawley, Herfordshire

+ his family with

Hannah PALMER, Nurse, unmarried, age 16 - born St Weonards Herefordshire
(transcribed as being born, FL Wemaws, Herfordshire)

MORSE clan St Briavels & Aylburton (reply)

ChrisW — Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:50:54 +0000

Marriage record for Joseph Morse and Hannah Palmer gives her father's name as LABAN PALMER. Possible marriage on FreeBMD. I am unable to get onto my census site at present. Is anyone able to carry out an 1861 check to find out which one he married please?

Marriages Sep 1851
Herbert Sarah Ross 26 315
Lewis Mary Ross 26 315
Nourse Henry Ross 26 315
PALMER Laban Ross 26 315
Preece Thomas Ross 26 315
Ruck Ann Ross 26 315

Deaths Mar 1883
PALMER Laban 56 Chepstow 11a 15

1881
Laban PALMER Head W Male 56 Langarran, Hereford, England Farm Laborer
Catherine PALMER Daur U Female 30 St Leonards, Hereford, England

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Source Information:
Dwelling Hewelsfield Village
Census Place Hewelsfield, Gloucester, England
Family History Library Film 1342258
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5221 / 34
Page Number 3

MORSE clan St Briavels & Aylburton (reply)

unknown — Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:43:00 +0000

should read forgive me

MORSE clan St Briavels & Aylburton (reply)

unknown — Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:41:22 +0000

Confused.my grandad was henry morse born in usa 1894 .grandad.s father was also henry morse married elizabeth baker in drybrook .both from st braivels ,
Henry's Mother and father was joseph morse and hannah morse (hannah palmer)but can't find any information on hannah's parents .this is where i got confused where do i go next if i'm right my gt gt gt grandad was other joseph morse ?also can't work childred out on joseph and hannah morse .george.sophia.henry gt grandad .richard? . forgive my for being an idiot what is the right morse clan im looking for .

thanks paul.Search Parish Records

Henry MORSE (boxer morse) Aylburton (reply)

unknown — Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:11:19 +0000

hi Kiwi,
did you get my message .
paul

Henry MORSE (boxer morse) Aylburton (reply)

kiwiceltic — Sun, 18 Sep 2011 00:04:40 +0000

Henry MORSE (01 Feb 1857 The Hoggins, St.Briavels, Gloucestershire,England-1939-40)Occupation Coal Miner
Md:15 Dec 1883 Drybrook, Gloucestershire, England Elizabeth BAKER(abt 1855 St.Briavels, Gloucestershire, England-)
Elizabeth BAKER’s parents were George BAKER(abt 1827 Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England) and Amelia JONES(abt 1825 St.Briavels, Gloucestershire,England-)

1.Albert MORSE(abt 1885 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England-)
2.Millie MORSE(abt 1887 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England-)

3.Sophia MORSE(18 July 1888 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England-)
Md:26 Dec 1914 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Albert PRICE
Albert PRICE’s parents were John PRICE and

4.James MORSE( abt 1894 United States of America-)
5.Henry MORSE(abt 1896 United States of America-)

Henry MORSE (boxer morse) Aylburton (reply)

kiwiceltic — Sat, 17 Sep 2011 23:47:48 +0000

Paul can you please get intouch with me as we are very much related and i have now a good family tree on our MORSE Genealogy. I would love to share what I have found with you ty.

Henry MORSE (boxer morse) Aylburton (reply)

unknown — Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:18:57 +0000

thanks to all who reply very helpfull

Henry MORSE 1857 St Briavels - Travellers Rest (Besom) (reply)

unknown — Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:56:02 +0000

Thanks for information jeff much appreciated .
paul

Henry MORSE 1857 St Briavels - Travellers Rest (Besom) (reply)

Jefff — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 23:57:14 +0000

For more interesting history & photos of the Traveller's Rest see the excellent website
http://www.gloucestershirecamra.org.uk/pubs/glospubs/new/AllGlosPubsDatabase/AllGlosPub...

Sorry I cannot give a direct link but just enter "Aylburton" into the search box and six pubs are found, use "previous" & "next" buttons at base of each page to find the Traveller's Rest.

It may be of interest that in 1898 it was bought by the Anglo Bavarian Brewery (from Zummerzett !?) and sold lager; I thought that was a 70s invention in the Forest !

Henry MORSE 1857 St Briavels - Travellers Rest (Besom) (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:01:32 +0000

on Lower Common, including the Traveller’s Rest (or Besom, opened by 1880, closed late 1980s.)

http://www.forestprints.co.uk/aylburton_common_besom.htm

Besom Inn
Lower Common
Aylburton
Lydney
GL15 6DU

1911
MORSE HENRY M 1858 53 Chepstow Monmouthshire
MORSE ELIZABETH F 1857 54 Chepstow Monmouthshire
MORSE HENRY M 1896 15 Chepstow Monmouthshire
MORSE JAMES M 1894 17 Chepstow Monmouthshire

1901 Travellers Rest
Henry Morse abt 1857 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Head Aylburton, Gloucestershire Coal Miner
Elizabeth Morse abt 1855 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Wife Aylburton, Gloucestershire
Albert Morse abt 1885 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son Aylburton, Gloucestershire
Millie Morse abt 1887 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Aylburton, Gloucestershire
Sophia Morse abt 1888 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Aylburton, Gloucestershire
James Morse abt 1894 American Samoa Son Aylburton, Gloucestershire
Henry Morse abt 1896 American Samoa Son Aylburton, Gloucestershire

1881
Henry Morse abt 1856 Gloucestershire, England Boarder Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire

1871 St Briavels
Joseph Morre 58
Hannah Morre 45
Henry Morre 15
Joseph Morre 13
Sophia Morre 7

1861
Joseph Morse abt 1811 Brooklaw, Gloucestershire, England Head St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Hannah Morse abt 1817 Brooklaw, Gloucestershire, England Wife St Briavel, Gloucestershire
George Morse abt 1846 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Son St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Henry Morse abt 1857 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Son St Briavel, Gloucestershire
Joseph Morse abt 1859 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Son St Briavel, Gloucestershire

Year:1857
Month:Feb
Day:1
Parents_Surname:MORSE
Child_Forenames:Henry
Fathers_Forenames:Joseph
Mothers_Forenames:Hannah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:The Hoggins
Occupation:Labourer
Officiating_Minister:Charles Hand
Event:Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:P278 IN 1/6
Page_Number:74
Parish_Chapel:St Briavels

Elizabeth BAKER (father GEORGE) St. Briavels (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:08:35 +0000

not sure about previous thread on this line (although the BAKER name was in the MORSE family earlier on)

? Elizabeth BAKER c 1856

1861 Census, St Briavels

BAKER

George - 34, Farm Labourer, born Berkeley
Amelia - 34 - all born St Briavels
Edwin - 7
Elizabeth - 6
William - 4
George - 1

FOD records : Marriage at St Briavels - 2 October 1853

George BAKER, Bachelor, full age, Labourer, residence : St Briavels

father: John BAKER, labourer

married

Amelia JONES - full age, Spinster

father: William JONES, labourer

by banns

mark of Maria MADDOX and John CLEMENTS

Minister: John KYNASTON?

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If you use the Advance Search for children of George & Amelia BAKER - you will find (full details when called up - this is just the year etc)

Sarah - 1864 - christened at St Briavels, residence, St Briavels Common
Elizabeth - 1855 - christened at Woolaston, residence: Lancaute
George - 1860 - christened at St Briavels - residence The Common
James - 1862 - ditto
William - 1856 - christened at Tidenham - residence: Lancaut

MORSE (?previous thread) (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:51:04 +0000

May ( think) be linked to previous thread

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=12527#p12549

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FOD records

Burial at Lydney - 3 June 1940

Henry MORSE - Age 83

residence: 19 Upper Common Aylburton

So from this we have Henry MORSE was born c1857

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and this ties up with

Marriage at Drybrook - 15 December 1883

Henry MORSE, age 26 (Bachelor) Miner, residence: Bilson Woodside (c1857)

father: Joseph MORSE (deceased)

married

Elizabeth BAKER, age 27, (Spinster), residence: Bilson Woodside

father: George BAKER, labourer

by banns

witnesses: Mark of Thomas COOMBS - Sophia DOBELL (illegible)

Minister: William BARKER (Vicar)

Henry MORSE (boxer morse) Aylburton

unknown — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:24:50 +0000

My Great grandad was henry morse (boxer morse known to people in them days) who died in 1939 or 1940 buried in aylburton church.
Live on upper common aylburton and the travellers rest on aylburton common about 1920/30 .im looking for information on the morse family henry married elizabeth baker in drybrook church about 1870 ?. elizabeth came from st briavals thats all i know .