Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Charles TEAGUE 1822 -1888 Lydbrook area

Charles TEAGUE 1822 -1888 Lydbrook area (reply)

gilly22 — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:44:42 +0000

Thanks for all the help

TEAGUE/DAVIS + Fanny TEAGUE 1850 + VIRGO (reply)

m p griffiths — Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:51:19 +0000

Marriage 1857, Gloucestershire BDM : Charles TEAGUE & Mary DAVIS

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/

FreeBDM - Marriage

J/F/M Qtr 1857 - Monmouth District

Charles TEAGUE - Vol : 11a - PAGE 52

* Original handwritten entry on Ancestry says Page 32 - so a transcription error - although Ancestry again transcribed as page 52

Only the people with the same Page No: come up with Charles TEAGUE, hence Mary doesn't

If you use FreeBDM this way:

Search Monmouth District: March qtr 1857 - March qtr 1857

without entering a surname

all the names then come up, including Mary DAVIS - Vol : 11a - Page 32

The original handwritten entry (on Ancestry) does say Page 32

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FreeBDM

Baptism: A/M/J Qtr 1850 - Monmouth : Fanny TEAGUE

1891 Census, East Dean

Amos VIRGO - 42 Coalminer, born Lydbrook
Fanny TEAGUE - single, 41, Housekeeper, born Lydbrook
Florence TEAGUE - age 8 Servant, born London

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FOD records for a baptism of a John Alfred TEAGUE, at West Dean Methodist, Lydbrook - baptised 6 June 1878, born 13 January, mother Fanny TEAGUE, single woman.

and then we have this: ?? (but Grandparents of John TEAGUE c1878, seem to be John & Jane TEAGUE - not Charles )

1891 Census, West Dean
Cammomile? Green

John HARRIS - married, 32, General Labourer, born Coleford, Glos
Mary A HARRIS - wife - 24, born Upper Lydbrook
John BALE - brother-in-law, married, 33 - Miner coal,
Fanny BALE - sister-in-law - age 29
John TEAGUE, nephew - single - 13, Scholar, born Upper Lydbrook
Wm G BALES - nephew - single - 8

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1881 Census West Dean

TEAGUE

John - 56 - Coal Miner, born Lydbrook
Jane - 40 - Colwell
Mary Ann - 14 - born Lydbrook
John TEAGUE, Grandson, age 3 - born Lydbrook

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1901 Census, East Dean
The Park

Amos VIRGO - 51, Coalminer above ground, born Joyford
Fannie VIRGO - 50 - born Joyford
Florence TEAGUE, daughter - 18 - born London

Mary Ann Booth HALE (reply)

gilly22 — Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:39:07 +0000

Thanks for the help. Do you think that the Mariam/Miriam on 1851 Census is Mary Ann Booth Hale? Also the marriage to Mary Davis 1857 doesnt come up on free BMD well I cant find it!! Also on 1861 Census there is a 'Fance' as child who obviously isnt Mary Davis daughter as she is 17 - I think she comes up as Pansy?? on another census- however cant find birth for either name or for a Frances/Fanny etc any ideas?
The son Hubert on 1861 is the one that I am interested in - and his father was Charles according to his marriage. He lived in Monmouthshire and USA still alive on 1911C.

Charles TEAGUE 1822 -1888 Lydbrook area (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 19 Sep 2011 05:47:07 +0000

this looks compelling !

Year:1822
Month:May
Day:12
Parents_Surname:TEAGUE
Child_Forenames:Charles
Fathers_Forenames:Thomas
Mothers_Forenames:Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:Morse
Occupation:Stone Cutter
Officiating_Minister:J. Bridgman
Event:Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:P109 IN 1/1
Page_Number:34
Parish_Chapel:Drybrook

Year:1837
Month:May
Day:28
Surname:TEAGUE
Forenames:Thomas
Residence:Lydbrook
Age_at_death:years 40
Officiating_Minister:G D Fosbroke
Event:Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:P275 IN 1/12
Page_No:86
Parish_Chapel:Ruardean

1841 Camomile Green / Upper Lydbrook
Mary Teague abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Charles Teague abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire Coal Miner
John Teague abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
James Teague abt 1827 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Enoch Teague abt 1833 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Frances Teague abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

1851 Worrall Hill /Lydbrook
Charles Teague abt 1822 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Coal Miner
Mariam Teague abt 1822 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Pansy Teague abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire

1861 Hausley / Lydbrook
Charles Teague abt 1823 West Dean Head East Dean, Gloucestershire Coal Miner
Mary Teague abt 1840 East Dean Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Fance Teague abt 1844 East Dean Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Maryann Teague abt 1857 East Dean Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Agnes Eliza Teague abt 1859 East Dean Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Hubert Charles Teague abt 1860 East Dean Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

1871 Lydbrook
Charles Teague 49 Lydbrook Collier
Mary Teague 30
Albert OK Teague 10
Harriett Teague 8
William L S Teague 6
Thomas Teague 4
Cutler Teague 2
Elizabeth Teague 7 Months

1881
Charles Teague abt 1822 Drybrook East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire Coal Miner
Mary Teague abt 1841 Hausley East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Leonard Teague abt 1865 Hausley East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Teague abt 1867 Hausley East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Arthur Teague abt 1869 Hausley East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Teague abt 1871 Moorwood, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Edith Teague abt 1873 Moorwood, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Charles Teague abt 1875 Moorwood, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Morgan Teague abt 1877 Moorwood, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Gertrude Teague abt 1880 Moorwood, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Wilson abt 1858 Hausley East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Visitor Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Florance Wilson abt 1878 Totterdown Bristol Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Gertrude Wilson Joys Green, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire

Year:1888
Month:Oct
Day:21
Surname:TEAGUE
Forenames:Charles
Residence:The Reddings Lydbrook
Age_at_death:66 years
Officiating_Minister:H. T. Hoitt Vicar
Event:Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:P208 1N 1/12
Page_No:12
Parish_Chapel:Lydbrook

Mary Ann Booth HALE (reply)

Jefff — Sun, 18 Sep 2011 22:45:49 +0000

Searching this site's BMDs:

Record_ID: 4100
Entry_Number: 57
Year: 1849
Month: Apl
Day: 19
Grooms_Surname: TEAGUE
Grooms_Forenames: Charles
Grooms_Age: 27
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: [Waril] Hill
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Tregue
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Stone Cutter
Brides_Surname: HALE
Brides_Forenames: Mary Ann Booth
Brides_Age: 26
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: [Waril] Hill
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Hale
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both Mark
Witness_1: Henry Morgan
Witness_2: Elizabeth Morgan
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Henry G. Nicholls
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 29
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex_Groom: T200
Soundex_Bride: H400

AND ALSO:

Record_ID: 14599
Entry_Number: 388
Year: 1857
Month: Mar
Day: 21
Grooms_Surname: TEAGUE
Grooms_Forenames: Charles
Grooms_Age: 30
Groom_Condition: Widower
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Cannop
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Teague
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Stone Cutter
Brides_Surname: DAVIS
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age: 18
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Yorkley
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Davis
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Daniel
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Stone Cutter
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: he marks she signs
Witness_1: George Davis
Witness_2: Amy Richards
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Henry Poole
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P145 IN 1/20
Page_Number: 194
Parish_Chapel: Parkend
Soundex_Groom: T200
Soundex_Bride: D120

From the first marriage,
Charles is aged 27 in 1849 so born abt 1822 gives Baptism:

Record_ID: 12813
Entry_Number: 267
Year: 1822
Month: May
Day: 12
Parents_Surname: TEAGUE
Child_Forenames: Charles
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Morse
Occupation: Stone Cutter
Officiating_Minister: J. Bridgman
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 34
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: T200

NB: there are 13 Charles Teague Baptisms Records on the database, this is the only possible one for either marriage.

Hi Gilly,
purely from studying the above PRs wrt the Groom's age, occupation & residence and particularly his father's name & occupation, I would say there's every chance they are both one & the same Charles Teague. Yes, he fibbed a little regarding his age but if marrying a girl abt 17 years younger so would I !

Hope this helps.

Mary Ann Booth HALE

gilly22 — Sun, 18 Sep 2011 21:49:39 +0000

Charles Teague married Mary (age 26)1849 - Charles Teague married Mary Davis 1857(age 18) as a Widower are the two Charles same person? Census 1861 with Mary 1851 with Mariam? any help appreciated