Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Herbert CAMPBELL abt 1854 (City of Gloucester)

Herbert CAMPBELL abt 1854 (City of Gloucester) (reply)

jazzie232 — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 09:28:59 +0000

Hi Andrew,

Sorry, no luck so far. I am still looking at other options. His Death Certificate says he immigrated to South Australia before coming to New South Wales.

Janelle
(Sydney, Australia)

Herbert CAMPBELL abt 1854 (City of Gloucester) (reply)

andrewjston — Mon, 24 Mar 2014 22:43:31 +0000

Hi Janelle,
I just came across your post online. I'm Herbert Cambell's great grandson. He's someone I've had no success in tracing further back. I was wondering if you'd had any joy?
If there's anything you've learnt that you're happy to share I would be so appreciative.
Many thanks,
Andrew Johnston (Sydney)

Henry CAMBELL 1855 ? (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:05:43 +0000

? another long shot (with Army connections)

1861 Census, Chatham Kent

Catherine CAMBELL - 37? - born Kent, Chatham
Elizabeth CAMBELL - grand-daughter - 16 - born Kent, Chatham
Rachael CAMBELL - grand-daughter - 9 - born Kent, Chatham
James CAMBELL - grand-son - 7 - born Kent, Chatham
Henry CAMBELL - Grandson- 5 - born Cheltenham, Gloucestershire (transcribed by Ancestry as Chatham, Glos)*
James EXCELL - Private Solder - born Glos. Bristol
Emily EXCELL - - born Glos. Bristol
Thomas EXCELL - born Kent, Chatham

*can't as yet see a birth in Glos.

There is on Freebdm - A/MJ Qtr 1845 Exeter (another Army area) - surnames the wrong way round.....

of a

Sarah CAMBELL - and along with the other names is listed a Henry Charles HARVEY

Herbert (HAINES) s/o Herbert born Gloucester 1853 (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:25:17 +0000

He was 33 when he married on 8 Dec 1886 and 42 when he died on 12 Sept 1896

Implies he was born around October/November 1853

[long shot time]

Going very lateral, there is a Herbert born Gloucester in the right year- not a CAMPBELL, but son of a Cleric

So far Herbert jun is "missing" after 1861 - he could be away at school, or ?

perhaps he re-invents himself in Australia ???

1851
Robert Haines abt 1827 Hampstead, Middlesex, England Head Gloucester College Precincts, Gloucestershire
Rosina Haines abt 1825 Highgate, Middlesex, England Wife Gloucester College Precincts, Gloucestershire
Jam Haines abt 1783 Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire, England Mother Gloucester College Precincts, Gloucestershire
Mary E Evans abt 1834 Hampstead, Middlesex, England Niece Gloucester College Precincts, Gloucestershire

Name: Herbert Haines
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1853
Registration district: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 224

HAINES Herbert
HAINES DUGARD
1853 Gloucester Gloucester, St Nicholas 8 406

1861
Herbert Harries abt 1827 Hampstead, Middlesex, England Head Gloucester St Catherine, Gloucestershire
Rosina Haines abt 1826 Highgate, Middlesex, England Wife Gloucester St Catherine, Gloucestershire
Herbert Haines abt 1853 Gloucestershire, England Son Gloucester St Catherine, Gloucestershire
Mary Jane Haines abt 1855 Gloucestershire, England Daughter Gloucester St Catherine, Gloucestershire
William John Haines abt 1856 Gloucestershire, England Son Gloucester St Catherine, Gloucestershire
Edward Bliss Haines abt 1858 Gloucestershire, England Son Gloucester St Catherine, Gloucestershire
Rose Mary Haines abt 1859 Gloucestershire, England Daughter Gloucester St Catherine, Gloucestershire
Lewis Haines abt 1860 Gloucestershire, England Son Gloucester St Catherine, Gloucestershire
Edith Elizabeth Haines abt 1861 Gloucestershire, England Daughter Gloucester St Catherine, Gloucestershire

1871 Gloucester
Herbert Harries 44
Rosena Harries 46
William John Harries 15
Edward Bliss Harries 13
Alice Harries 9
Harry Fowler Harries 2
Charlotte Dugard 88

Name: Herbert Haines
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1872
Age at Death: 46
Registration district: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 171

Name: [Reverend] Herbert Haines
Probate Date: 9 Oct 1872
Death Date: 18 Sep 1872
Death Place: Gloucestershire, England
Registry: Gloucester

1881
Rosina Haines abt 1825 Highgate, Middlesex, England Head Hastings St Leonards, Sussex
Emily Webb abt 1835 Islington, Middlesex, England Visitor Hastings St Leonards, Sussex
Mary New abt 1834 Ottery St Mary, Devon, England Visitor Hastings St Leonards, Sussex
Harry F. Haines abt 1869 Gloucestershire, England Son Hastings St Leonards, Sussex

1911 13 De Cham Rd St Leonards O/Sea
Rosina Haines abt 1825 Highgate, Middlesex Boarder Hastings, Sussex

CAMPBELL family abt 1854 (City of Gloucester) (reply)

jazzie232 — Tue, 16 Apr 2013 01:05:23 +0000

Thank you for your assistance. This was a long shot. We don't know if the information on the death and marriage certificates is correct.

I have only checked the Australian records so far for Herbert Campbell.

He was 33 when he married on 8 Dec 1886 and 42 when he died on 12 Sept 1896

I have not been able to find any immigration records either for the time frame of around 1882. His 1896 death certificate claims that he was in Australia for 14 years, 1 in South Australia and 13 in NSW

He named his only son, John Herbert Campbell who was born in Sydney in 1888

Janelle
Sydney, Australia

CAMPBELL family abt 1854 (City of Gloucester) (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 15 Apr 2013 08:25:36 +0000

The "CAMPBELL" family living in Gloucester around 1854 is this one ( but not yours)

CAMPBELL Archibald CAMPBELL OAKDEN 1860 Gloucester Gloucester, St John the Baptist 12 117
CAMPBELL Colin Stuart CAMPBELL OAKDEN 1856 Gloucester Gloucester, St John the Baptist 10 102
CAMPBELL Edwin Duncan CAMPBELL OAKDEN 1858 Gloucester Gloucester, St John the Baptist 11 202
CAMPBELL Edwin Oakden CAMPBELL OAKDEN 1854 Gloucester Gloucester, St John the Baptist 9 109
CAMPBELL Louisa Stuart CAMPBELL OAKDEN 1850 Gloucester Gloucester, St Nicholas 7 187
CAMPBELL Neil Stewart CAMPBELL OAKDEN 1852 Gloucester Gloucester, St Nicholas 8 199

1861
Duncan Campbell abt 1810 Seatland, Perthshire, Scotland Head Gloucester St Owen, Gloucestershire Customs Officer
Emma H Campbell abt 1827 Stourport, Worcestershire, England Wife Gloucester St Owen, Gloucestershire
Louisa S Campbell abt 1851 Gloucestershire, England Daughter Gloucester St Owen, Gloucestershire
Neil S Campbell abt 1853 Gloucestershire, England Son Gloucester St Owen, Gloucestershire
Colen S Campbell abt 1856 Gloucestershire, England Son Gloucester St Owen, Gloucestershire
Edwin D Campbell abt 1859 Gloucestershire, England Son Gloucester St Owen, Gloucestershire
Archibald Campbell abt 1860 Gloucestershire, England Son Gloucester St Owen, Gloucestershire

Herbert CAMPBELL abt 1854 (City of Gloucester) (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 15 Apr 2013 06:21:48 +0000

Hi I am trying to find some information on the Campbell family in the Gloucester area.

Recently we have received copies of Herbert Campbell's marriage and death certificates from NSW Births, Deaths & Marriages in Australia.

Here is the information on them:

Father's name is either Herbert or Henry Campbell and he was a hotelkeeper.
Mother's name is Sarah Harvey
Was born about 1854 and was from City of Gloucester, England.
Immigrated to Australia in around 1882 firstly to South Australia for about 1 year then moved to New South Wales.

Herbert Campbell married Jane Murphy who is my 2nd great grand Aunt.

I would love any information on Herbert - parents, siblings or descendants

Many thanks

Janelle
Sydney, Australia

Not sure what research you have already undertaken, however first impression is that some of the "facts" do not match up with census data. Struggling to find a candidate either with name, approx birth year or county .......

continuing the search :-)

The closest birth in southern England is :-

Name: Charles Herbert Campbell
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1854
Registration district: Droitwich
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 378

The closest marriage for a parent in England is ( after Herberts Birth)

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1877 (>99%)
Campbell John Stourbridge 6c 258
Harvey Sarah Stourbridge 6c 258

which probably links to this family

1881
John Campbell abt 1828 Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England Head Kinver, Staffordshire Spade Warehouse Man
Mary Campbell abt 1825 Cradley, Worcestershire, England Wife Kinver, Staffordshire
John Campbell Jabt 1862 Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England Son Kinver, Staffordshire
Mary Smith abt 1859 Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England Daughter Kinver, Staffordshire

1871
John Campbell 43
Mary Campbell 46
Jane Campbell 20
Sarah Campbell 17
Thomas W Campbell 16
Alice Campbell 13
Rebecca Campbell 9
John Campbell 8

1861
John Campbell abt 1828 Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England Head Stourbridge, Worcestershire
Mary Campbell abt 1824 Cradley, Worcestershire, England Wife Stourbridge, Worcestershire
Mary Jane Campbell abt 1851 Cradley, Worcestershire, England Daughter Stourbridge, Worcestershire
Sarah Campbell abt 1854 Cradley, Worcestershire, England Daughter Stourbridge, Worcestershire
Thomas W Campbell abt 1855 Cradley, Worcestershire, England Son Stourbridge, Worcestershire
Alice Mary Campbell abt 1857 Cradley, Worcestershire, England Daughter Stourbridge, Worcestershire
Mary Ann Campbell abt 1858 Bellbroughton, Worcestershire, England Daughter Stourbridge, Worcestershire
Rebecah Campbell abt 1860 Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England Daughter Stourbridge, Worcestershire

1851
John Campbell abt 1828 Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England Lodger Hasbury, Worcestershire

Herbert CAMPBELL abt 1854 (City of Gloucester)

jazzie232 — Mon, 15 Apr 2013 05:27:51 +0000

Hi I am trying to find some information on the Campbell family in the Gloucester area.

Recently we have received copies of Herbert Campbell's marriage and death certificates from NSW Births, Deaths & Marriages in Australia.

Here is the information on them:

Father's name is either Herbert or Henry Campbell and he was a hotelkeeper.
Mother's name is Sarah Harvey
Was born about 1854 and was from City of Gloucester, England.
Immigrated to Australia in around 1882 firstly to South Australia for about 1 year then moved to New South Wales.

Herbert Campbell married Jane Murphy who is my 2nd great grand Aunt.

I would love any information on Herbert - parents, siblings or descendants

Many thanks

Janelle
Sydney, Australia