Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Albert Henry NORMAN

Albert Henry NORMAN (reply)

m p griffiths — Mon, 13 May 2013 15:06:46 +0000

As Albert NORMAN (Alfred NORMAN age 11 on the 1901 Census) -

7,8,9 & 10, Sudbrook Terrace, Chepstow Union Cottage Homes, Portskewett

www.workhouses.org.uk/Chepstow/

and Gwent Archives hold among other documents, Admissions and discharge for Sudbrook 1880-1903 - these records should give more information on Alfred NORMAN.

Amelia JONES 1838 (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 13 May 2013 10:47:02 +0000

Here is the marriage between James & Amelia.

Record_ID: 1383
Entry_Number: 23
Year: 1860
Month: Mar
Day: 19
Grooms_Surname: NORMAN
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age: 22
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Beachley
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Norman
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Cartman
Brides_Surname: JONES
Brides_Forenames: Amelia
Brides_Age: 21
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Beachley
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Jones
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Waterman
Licence_or_Banns:
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Mark of Robert Hiatt
Witness_2: Mark of Jane Hiatt
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Geo[rge] M. Bridges
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: Year could be 1860 or 1861
Register_Reference: P40 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 12
Parish_Chapel: Beachley
Soundex_Groom: N655
Soundex_Bride: J520

It is probable that the children were also baptised at Beachley, but they would not be in the database as the latest register held by Gloucester Archives is 1833-1846.

1851 Beachley
John Jones abt 1811 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Head Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Jones abt 1814 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Amelia Jones abt 1839 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham, Gloucestershire
William Jones abt 1841 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth A Jones abt 1843 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Ann Jones abt 1844 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Emma Jones abt 1848 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Jane Jones abt 1850 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham, Gloucestershire

1841 Beachley
John Toms abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Tidenham, Gloucestershire Waterman
Elizabeth Toms abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Amelia Toms abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Tidenham, Gloucestershire
William Toms abt 1841 Gloucestershire, England Tidenham, Gloucestershire

Year: 1839
Month: Jan
Day: 10
Parents_Surname: JONES
Child_Forenames: Amelia
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Beachley
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: daughter of
Notes: Out of date order
Register_Reference: P40 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 3
Parish_Chapel: Beachley

Jane NORMAN 1869 Tidenham (reply)

grahamdavison — Mon, 13 May 2013 10:15:08 +0000

Here is the marriage between James & Amelia.

Record_ID: 1383
Entry_Number: 23
Year: 1860
Month: Mar
Day: 19
Grooms_Surname: NORMAN
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age: 22
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Beachley
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Norman
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Cartman
Brides_Surname: JONES
Brides_Forenames: Amelia
Brides_Age: 21
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Beachley
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Jones
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Waterman
Licence_or_Banns:
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Mark of Robert Hiatt
Witness_2: Mark of Jane Hiatt
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Geo[rge] M. Bridges
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: Year could be 1860 or 1861
Register_Reference: P40 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 12
Parish_Chapel: Beachley
Soundex_Groom: N655
Soundex_Bride: J520

It is probable that the children were also baptised at Beachley, but they would not be in the database as the latest register held by Gloucester Archives is 1833-1846.

Jane NORMAN 1869 Tidenham (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 12 May 2013 22:20:42 +0000

1911 Census - Jane COLLIER is aged 32 = c1879

1891 Pen Moel Terrace
Amelia Norman abt 1841 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Head Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Jane Norman abt 1870 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Robert Norman abt 1879 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Frederick Norman abt 1881 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire
William Savery abt 1872 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Albert H Norman abt 1890 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire

1881 Penmoyle Terrace
Amelia Norman abt 1839 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Head Tidenham, Gloucestershire
William Norman abt 1866 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Jane Norman abt 1869 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham, Gloucestershire
James Norman abt 1872 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Robert Norman abt 1879 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Frederick Norman abt 1880 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire

1871 Sedbury
James Norman 34 Ashwich SOM
Amelia Norman 35 Ashwich SOM
George Norman 10 Tidenham
Mary A Norman 8 Tidenham
William Norman 6 Tidenham
Martha Norman 4 Tidenham
Jane Norman 2 Tidenham

Name: Jane Norman
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1869
Registration district: Chepstow
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 8

1861 Beachley nr Salmon Inn
James Norman abt 1837 Vale, Somerset, England Head Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Amelia Norman abt 1837 Aust, Gloucestershire, England Wife Tidenham, Gloucestershire
George Norman abt 1861 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire

albert henry norman (reply)

sandra46 — Sun, 12 May 2013 15:00:44 +0000

thank u both so much been stuck on this fo awhile so your help is great

Jane NORMAN c1869 (reply)

m p griffiths — Sun, 12 May 2013 14:58:07 +0000

1911 Census - Jane COLLIER is aged 32 = c1879

albert henry norman (reply)

ChrisW — Sun, 12 May 2013 14:55:57 +0000

Good find Mar! Obviously wasn't 'our' Jane which is a pity.

COLLIER/NORMAN (reply)

m p griffiths — Sun, 12 May 2013 14:52:05 +0000

????????

1911 Census,
82 Marlett Street,
Caerphilly

Married 16 years = 1895

The first line of name has been crossed through, so the transcript is written like this.....

Geo Collier Bossons - age 37, born Newport, Monmouthshire
Jane Collier - 32 - born Newport, Mon c1879
Wm. Geo Collier - 15
Norman Edd Collier - 1

Jane Norman (reply)

ChrisW — Sun, 12 May 2013 14:39:41 +0000

There is a possible marriage for Jane on FreeBMD. However I cannot find her in Monmouthshire with either surname on the 1901!

Marriages Sep 1895
Collier George Newport, M. 11a 355
Norman Jane Newport, M. 11a 355
Thomas Emma Newport, M. 11a 355
Watkins Fred Newport,M 11a 355

EDIT

It looks like Fred Watkins married Emma Thomas, so now searching for a George & Jane Collier. All hands on deck please!

albert henry norman (reply)

m p griffiths — Sun, 12 May 2013 13:54:36 +0000

1891 Census, Tidenham

NORMAN

Amelia - 50 - all born Tidenham
Jane - 21 = c 1869
Robert - 12
Frederick - 10
William SAVERY - 19 - C1872 - born Tidenham
Albert H NORMAN - 1

----

On the 1901 census for Cheptow - Albert's christian name is Alfred

1911 Wales Census, 45 Harold Street, Ammanford, Carm

Albert H NORMAN, 21 - Boarder, Coalminer, born Tidenham

----

???

There is a death at Chepstow - April 1910 - of a William SAVERY age 39

----

FoD records - Marriage at Tidenham 4 June 1904

William SAVERY age 32, labourer, residence: Tidenham - father: George SAVERY
married

Alice EDWARDS - age 35, Spinster, residence: Tidenham - father: William EDWAARDS, labourer

witnesses: William EDWARD, Charles SAVERY

albert henry norman

sandra46 — Sun, 12 May 2013 12:49:31 +0000

hi im trying to find out about albert henry normaan. he was illegitamte the son of jane norman he was christend in 1890 he was living in the tidenham area. on the 1901 he is living in sudbrooke union cottage Chepstow. I cant find anything on his mother she is on the 1891 census living with her mother and family jane was born 1869 but cant find anything after this can anyone help.