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<title>Charlotte GRIFFIN/William GRIFFIN/Charlotte JACKSON (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlotte's parents are on the 1841 census for Saul -</p>
<p>William GRIFFIN married Charlotte JACKSON at Fretherne- 30 April 1832 (Gloucestershire Marriage Index CD)</p>
<p><br />
?  CHURCH OF LATTER DAY SAINTS/Baptism Index CD</p>
<p>Birth at Frampton on Severn - 22 April 1810 - William GRIFFIN, parents George (labourer)  &amp; Nancy</p>
<p>Gloucestershire Marriage Index: <strong>George GRIFFIN married Nancy BOICE </strong>at Frampton on Severn 12 October 1807</p>
<p><br />
1841 Census, Frampton on Severn<br />
Frampton Street</p>
<p>George GRIFFIN 45 - labourer, all born in County<br />
Nancy - 55<br />
Hannah - 20</p>
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<p><br />
1851  Census, Frampton Severn </p>
<p>(?might be the same couple ) Church Court, which is listed next to Frampton Street</p>
<p>George GRIFFIN - 62 - born Frampton<br />
Ann - 75 - Nurse, born Quedgley</p>
<p><br />
Freebmd has a death of a Nancy GRIFFIN - J/A/S Qtr 1861 District: Wheatenhurst, which includes Frampton</p>
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<p><br />
1841 Census, Saul</p>
<p><br />
William GRIFFIN - 30 Waterman<br />
Charlotte - 28<br />
George - 8  (George christened 3 May 1833 - parents William, Waterman and Charlotte)<br />
Louisa - 5 (Luesa - 12 July 1835)<br />
Samuel - 3<br />
Ann - 11 months</p>
<p>on the 1851 census - the ages are like this </p>
<p>GRIFFIN</p>
<p>Charlote - 24<br />
George - 18<br />
Lucasa - 16<br />
Samuel - 14<br />
<strong>Elizah - 5</strong><br />
William - 2</p>
<p><br />
on the 1861 census we have at Saul</p>
<p>GRIFFIN</p>
<p>Charlote - 48 - Mariner or Bargeman's wife - born <strong>Moreton Valance</strong><br />
George - 27<br />
Hannah - 18<br />
William - 12<br />
<strong>Charlote - 10</strong><br />
Amos - 6</p>
<p><br />
(Charlotte GRIFFIN is on the 1871 census at Saul age 19 Housekeeper, working for William PURCELL (Master Mariner)  &amp; family</p>
<p><br />
1871 Census, Saul</p>
<p>Fish House</p>
<p>//<br />
Charlotte GRIFFIN - 56 - wife, born <strong>Moreton Valance</strong><br />
Hannah SIMS (LIME) - mother-in-law W age 90 pauper - born Whitminster<br />
//</p>
<p>// means the same household</p>
<p><strong>Public Members Tree on Ancestry, list George GRIFFIN's wife as Charlotte SIMS </strong></p>
<p><br />
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<p>GlosBDM</p>
<p>Griffin - mother's maiden name JACKSON</p>
<p>Ann - 1840 - All Gloucester Frampton<br />
Charlotte - 1851<br />
Elijah - 1845<br />
Hannah - 1842<br />
Samuel - 1838<br />
William - 1848</p>
<p><br />
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<p>On the 1881 census at Saul, Passage Road</p>
<p>GRIFFIN</p>
<p>William - 70 - Mariner born Frampton on Severn<br />
Charlotte - 68 - <strong>born Saul</strong><br />
Elijah - 36 (the brother-in-law later census)<br />
Amos - 26</p>
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<title>Charlotte CROSS nee GRIFFIN born Saul, Frampton, 1851 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks M for spotting &amp; correcting my foolish mistake wrt Charlotte's maiden name.<br />
Don't know what I was thinking there.<br />
Apologies to all, have now amended my earlier post.</p>
<p>--------------------------------------------------------</p>
<p>I see from 1881 Census Charlotte was aged 28, so born Saul abt 1853.</p>
<p><br />
I think this is her Baptism, from GlosBMD;</p>
<p>Birth Details<br />
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry <br />
GRIFFIN Charlotte GRIFFIN GRIFFIN JACKSON 1851 Gloucester Gloucester, Frampton 5 170</p>
<p><br />
(Looks like her 1881 Census entry was another example of not wanting to be over 30yrs, and why not)  </p>
<p>FreeBMD adds the June qtr;<br />
 <br />
Births Jun 1851   (&gt;99%)<br />
---------------------------------------------------------<br />
Griffin  Charlotte     Wheatenhurst  11 522    </p>
<p>============</p>
<p>I think this may possibly be her parent's marriage, but more proof needed, from FreeBMD;<br />
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Surname  First name(s)    District  Vol  Page  <br />
---------------------------------------------------------<br />
Marriages Dec 1851   (&gt;99%)<br />
---------------------------------------------------------<br />
Andrews  William    Cirencester  11 401    <br />
Butt  Elizabeth     Cirencester  11 401    <br />
Gibbons  Alfred     Cirencester  11 401    <br />
<strong>Griffin  Luke     Cirencester  11 401    </strong><br />
HYATT  Ellen     Cirencester  11 401    <br />
<strong>Jackson  Sarah     Cirencester  11 401    </strong></p>
<p>==========</p>
<p>Hoping this helps, rather than hinders ! ;-)</p>
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<title>Frederick Luke CROSS/GRIFFIN/HART (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great! Thank you ever so much! I do appreciate it!</p>
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<title>Frederick Luke CROSS/GRIFFIN/HART (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gloucestershirebdm</p>
<p>Marriage at St Mark's Gloucester 1890</p>
<p><br />
Groom Surname: HAYWARD<br />
Groom Forename: Richard</p>
<p>Bride Surname: CROSS - also listed as Bride Surname: GRIFFIN<br />
Bride Forename: Charlotte</p>
<p>District: Gloucester<br />
Parish: Gloucester<br />
Building St Mark<br />
Year: 1890<br />
Register: 31 No 5<br />
Entry 203</p>
<p><br />
On the 1891 census, Richard HAYWARD's brother in law's name is Elijah age 47</p>
<p>1881 Census, Moreton Valance Civil Parish</p>
<p>Frederick CROSS - 36 waterman born Saul<br />
Charlotte CROSS - 28 - born Saul</p>
<p><br />
-</p>
<p>England &amp; Wales marriage Index</p>
<p><br />
<strong>Frederick Luke CROSS</strong></p>
<p>Date of Registration: A/M/J Qtr 1874</p>
<p>Registration District: Wheatenhurst</p>
<p>Inferred County: Gloucestershire</p>
<p>Volume Number: 6a</p>
<p>Page Number: 569</p>
<p>married:  Charlotte<strong> GRIFFEN</strong></p>
<p><br />
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<p>Fod Records</p>
<p>Baptism Westbury on Severn - <strong>23 May 1841</strong></p>
<p>Frederick Luke CROSS</p>
<p>father: Luke</p>
<p>mother: Sarah</p>
<p>occupation: Waterman</p>
<p>1841 Census, Glos Westbury on Severn</p>
<p>CROSS</p>
<p>Luke - 25 - Waterman<br />
Sarah - 25<br />
Sarah Ann - 4<br />
Luke - 2 months</p>
<p><br />
Gloucestershire Marriage CD</p>
<p>Luke CROSS married Sarah HART - 9 January 1837 by banns at Saul</p>
<p><br />
Gloucestershire Baptism CD - Baptism at Moreton Valance - 14 May 1837</p>
<p>Sarah Ann CROSS - parents Luke (waterman) &amp; Sarah - residence, Epney</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can't seem to verify the marriage of Cross/Griffin. Will keep trying though. Can't find Augusta anywhere else so I guess that was her death in 1889.</p>
<p>Thanks everyone, as always you help so much I do appreciate it!!</p>
<p>Alby</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, <br />
no not time wasted here, a pleasant distraction from the chores, but sometimes it can be more rewarding to find it oneself.</p>
<p>Your Census records seem to fit very nicely with this thread's findings. <br />
Sorry, not sure if my last post was clear, the GlosBMD Marriage record I quoted for Richard in 1890 shows that he married <strong>Charlotte CROSS whose maiden name was Griffin </strong>(you may want to look for her husband, was she widowed or ?). <br />
So again this <strong>fits your 1891 Census return very nicely wrt to RICHARD'S! brother-in-law being a Griffin </strong>!.</p>
<p>Judging by your comments I suspect Richard is a common Hayward name locally ?. If so then to be sure as to who's-who then it's a case of researching all the other permutations, tying up their BMDs, process of elimination etc. At least that way you may find other members/branches of the your &quot;main&quot; family.</p>
<p>HTH</p>
<p><strong>UPDATED 9 Jan ! <br />
Thank Heaven for MPG so kindly correcting my dim mixup on this post- sorry to all for getting Charlotte's names Cross-ed, duh !!</strong></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all yet again!  I will do more searching before I ask questions so not to waste anyone's time.</p>
<p>As to Richard &amp; Augusta. This is what I know:</p>
<p>1871: Richard &amp; Augusta at Warth Farm as a fisherman. </p>
<p>1881:  No Richard, but Augusta with daughter Ellen and her mother Louisa, at 65 Cottage, says Mariner's Wife.</p>
<p>1889:  Death of an Augusta Hayward????</p>
<p>1891:  Found a Ricahrd, fisherman, 132 Farmilode passage with a wife Charlotte and brother-in-law  ? Griffin</p>
<p>Not sure if that is the same Richard of if that is Augusta's death.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again,<br />
I certainly don't know more than you do, I just methodically work the available free websites(FreeBMD, GlosBMD and of course this FoD one), then perhaps Family Search/LDS, and see what turns up. Failing that I use Ancestry but only as a last resort and am not a subscriber.</p>
<p>Despite searching the above sites I'm not getting much luck so far despite trying both spellings, I do see Augusta was clearly a very popular Stevens/Stephens name !</p>
<p>As far as your Augusta goes I can only find what you know, which handily confirms she had no middle names;</p>
<p>Marriage Details<br />
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building   Year Register Entry <br />
HAYWARD Richard STEVENS Augusta Gloucester Arlingham St Mary the Virgin  1868 1 No 1 89 </p>
<p>Record_ID: 109709 <br />
Entry_Number:  <br />
Year: 1868 <br />
Month: Jun <br />
Day: 21 <br />
Grooms_Surname: HAYWARD <br />
Grooms_Forenames: Richard <br />
Grooms_Age: 23 <br />
Groom_Condition: bachelor <br />
Grooms_Occupation: fisherman <br />
Grooms_Residence: Arlingham <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: HAYWARD <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Samuel <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: fisherman <br />
Brides_Surname: STEVENS <br />
Brides_Forenames: Augusta <br />
Brides_Age: 22 <br />
Brides_Condition: spinster <br />
Brides_Occupation:  <br />
Brides_Residence: Arlingham <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: STEVENS <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: George <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: waterman <br />
Licence_or_Banns: banns <br />
Date_of_Banns:  <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign <br />
Witness_1: Elizabeth Stevens <br />
Witness_2: Henry Hayward <br />
Other_Witnesses:  <br />
Officiating_Minister: Fred G Scrivener cur <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P18 IN 1/11 <br />
Page_Number: 45 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Arlingham <br />
Soundex_Groom: H630 <br />
Soundex_Bride: S315 </p>
<p>So far I cannot find any relevant Burials for Augusta Hayward, probably cos like a twit I started searching under the Stevens surname, duh !<br />
The best source for Death Records in our area is FreeBMD, at least up until the 1960s or so - after that it's Ancestry Death Index etc.<br />
 <br />
I see Paul has found what looks very much like her Death Record while I've been floundering elsewehere, thanks good sir !</p>
<p>Out of curiosity Alby, have you found Richard in the 1891 Census ?. Does this, or any other, suggest he's widowed. This might give further credence.</p>
<p>------------</p>
<p>Searching Richard on GlosBMD gives this possible marriage to Charlotte, and in about the right timeframe too wrt Augusta's passing a few years prior;</p>
<p>Marriage Details<br />
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building   Year Register Entry <br />
HAYWARD Richard GRIFFIN Charlotte Gloucester Gloucester St Mark  1890 31 No 5 203 <br />
HAYWARD Richard CROSS Charlotte Gloucester Gloucester St Mark  1890 31 No 5 203</p>
<p>Looking at GlosBMD there are quite a few Charlotte Cross &amp; Charlotte Griffins in those times, many married more than once, so a tricky line to untangle..</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Source: FreeBMD.</p>
<p><br />
Deaths Dec 1889</p>
<p>Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page </p>
<p>Hayward  Augusta  44  Wheatenhurst  6a 191</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much. I have another question..I hate to keep asking, but everyone here seems to know more than I ever do!!</p>
<p><br />
Richard Hayward born 1845 in Arlingham (parents Samuel &amp; Elizabeth Ayland) married Augusta Stevens in 1868 (she was born in Saul in 1847). I keep getting pop-ups on Ancestry linking Richard to a wife of Charlotte Cross. I think Augusta died in 1889 which than I can see he would marry Charloette...any way to verify  Augusta's death?</p>
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<title>Amos HAYWARD b1910 Arlingham (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alby,<br />
seems you've already found quite a bit abt him, but here goes..</p>
<p>Searching GlosBMD gives at least three Amos Haywards' thro the years, including;</p>
<p>Birth Details<br />
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry <br />
HAYWARD Amos Lionel HAYWARD HAYWARD GLADWIN 1910 Gloucester Gloucester, Frampton 18 278 </p>
<p>Marriage Details<br />
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building   Year Register Entry <br />
HAYWARD Amos Lionel LORD Florence Gertrude Gloucester Gloucester Register Office  1935 45 201 <br />
<a href="http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx">http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx</a></p>
<p>Sadly I cannot find anymore traces of Amos or Florence in FoD PRs or GlosBMD.</p>
<p><br />
So, searching FreeBMD adds a little, namely the above Marriage is in the June Qtr;</p>
<p>Surname  First name(s)  Mother/Spouse/Age  District  Vol  Page  <br />
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Marriages Jun 1935   (&gt;99%)<br />
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Hayward  Amos L  Lord  Gloucester  6a 899        <br />
LORD  Florence G  Hayward  Gloucester  6a 899  </p>
<p><br />
FreeBMD also gives Florence's birth;<br />
    <br />
Surname  First name(s)  Mother/Spouse/Age  District  Vol  Page  <br />
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Births Mar 1913   (&gt;99%)<br />
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />
Lord  Florence G  Greenway  Wheatenhurst  6a 598    <br />
<a href="http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl">http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl</a></p>
<p>I suspect this is her parent's marriage, again from GlosBMD;</p>
<p>Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building   Year Register Entry   <br />
LORD Thomas GREENWAY Alice Maud Gloucester Arlingham St Mary the Virgin  1910 1 No 1 183 </p>
<p>Which is within this FoD site's PRs;</p>
<p>Record_ID: 109802 <br />
Entry_Number:  <br />
Year: 1910 <br />
Month: Mar <br />
Day: 27 <br />
Grooms_Surname: LORD <br />
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas <br />
Grooms_Age: 27 <br />
Groom_Condition: bachelor <br />
Grooms_Occupation: labourer <br />
Grooms_Residence: Eastington <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: LORD <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: George <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: labourer <br />
Brides_Surname: GREENWAY <br />
Brides_Forenames: Alice Maud <br />
Brides_Age: 21 <br />
Brides_Condition: spinster <br />
Brides_Occupation:  <br />
Brides_Residence: Arlingham <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: GREENWAY <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Eliazer <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: labourer <br />
Licence_or_Banns: banns <br />
Date_of_Banns:  <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign <br />
Witness_1: Sidney Thomas Smith <br />
Witness_2: Florence Henrietta Lord <br />
Other_Witnesses:  <br />
Officiating_Minister: Henry Bevis vicar <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P18 IN 1/11 <br />
Page_Number: 92 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Arlingham <br />
Soundex_Groom: L630 <br />
Soundex_Bride: G650</p>
<p>====================================</p>
<p>Back to Amos' aforementioned baptism record;<br />
 <br />
Searching the highly recommended, very userfriendly and completely free GlosBMD site - this time for a Hayward/Gladwin marriage, takes us nicely back to Amos's parents' marriage;</p>
<p>Marriage Details<br />
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building   Year Register Entry <br />
HAYWARD George Henry GLADWIN Mary Gloucester Arlingham St Mary the Virgin  1891 1 No 1 136 </p>
<p>Which again maybe found in much greater detail within this FoD site's PRs;<br />
Record_ID: 109756 <br />
Entry_Number:  <br />
Year: 1891 <br />
Month: Apr <br />
Day: 12 <br />
Grooms_Surname: HAYWARD <br />
Grooms_Forenames: George Henry <br />
Grooms_Age: 24 <br />
Groom_Condition: bachelor <br />
Grooms_Occupation: waterman <br />
Grooms_Residence: Arlingham <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: HAYWARD <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Henry <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: waterman <br />
Brides_Surname: GLADWIN <br />
Brides_Forenames: Mary <br />
Brides_Age: 22 <br />
Brides_Condition: spinster <br />
Brides_Occupation:  <br />
Brides_Residence: Arlingham <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: GLADWIN <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: William <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: labourer <br />
Licence_or_Banns: banns <br />
Date_of_Banns:  <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign <br />
Witness_1: Joseph Richard Ayland <br />
Witness_2: Rosina Hayward <br />
Other_Witnesses:  <br />
Officiating_Minister: Thos H Ravenhill vicar <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P18 IN 1/11 <br />
Page_Number: 68 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Arlingham <br />
Soundex_Groom: H630 <br />
Soundex_Bride: G435</p>
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<title>HAYWARD Arlingham (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Searching yet another Hayward...</p>
<p>Amos Hayward, born 1910 in Arlingham, England to parents George Henry Hayward born 1867 in Arlingham. Mother Mary ?. Last known address:  High Street, Arlingham Nr Stone House, Gloucestershire.</p>
<p>Siblings include:  George Henry, Charles, Mary Ann, Louisa, Batie, Rose and Lily.</p>
<p>Any help is always appreciated!</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This helps tremendously thank you, thank you, thank you!!!</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You're welcome.<br />
This MAY help you sort em out. You can use GlosBMD to list all(hopefully) the BIRTHS registered to Hayward / Weston (I think this is right judging from Edith Carolines record). see  <a href="http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/BirthSearch.aspx">http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/BirthSearch.aspx</a></p>
<p>The search results are as follows, hopefully they all tie in with your records and are the correct family group, I think so as all in correct locality ?.<br />
<span style="color:#006;"><br />
&quot;Criteria entered: Surname: hayward, Maiden name: weston, </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#006;">Number of entries matching criteria entered: 8</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#006;">Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry<br />
   <br />
HAYWARD Edith Caroline HAYWARD HAYWARD WESTON 1857 Gloucester Gloucester, Frampton 6 495   <br />
HAYWARD Charles Edward William HAYWARD HAYWARD WESTON 1859 Gloucester Gloucester, Frampton 7 284   <br />
HAYWARD Edith Caroline HAYWARD HAYWARD WESTON 1861 Gloucester Gloucester, Frampton 8 128   <br />
HAYWARD Joseph HAYWARD HAYWARD WESTON 1864 Gloucester Gloucester, Frampton 9 16   <br />
HAYWARD Mary Ann Weston HAYWARD HAYWARD WESTON 1867 Gloucester Gloucester, Frampton 9 370   <br />
HAYWARD Frederick William HAYWARD HAYWARD WESTON 1870 Gloucester Gloucester, Frampton 10 325   <br />
HAYWARD Julia Hallier HAYWARD HAYWARD WESTON 1874 Gloucester Gloucester, Frampton 11 276   <br />
HAYWARD Olive HAYWARD HAYWARD WESTON 1880 Gloucester Gloucester, Frampton 13 48&quot;</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#006;"></span></p>
<p>Perhaps one of these is new to you, maybe not on a Census form as too short-lived ?</p>
<p>If still nothing obvious, you can repeat the search for Deaths, looking thro the list of those who died &quot;young&quot; may help ?.  As this is searching ALL the Haywards(so all parents not just yours) throughout the &quot;Gloucester&quot; District this gives a much larger list, but clicking on the top of any column on this site will help sort them out. Click &quot;District&quot; and it groups them together, luckily &quot;Frampton&quot; is at the top, giving these names:<br />
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Surname Given Names Age Year Died District Register Entry   <br />
HAYWARD Alfred 11m 1863 Gloucester, Frampton 5 400   <br />
HAYWARD Alfred 4 1859 Gloucester, Frampton 5 59   <br />
HAYWARD Amelia 2 1863 Gloucester, Frampton 5 402   <br />
HAYWARD Arthur 8m 1868 Gloucester, Frampton 6 280   <br />
HAYWARD Charles 51 1843 Gloucester, Frampton 2 87   <br />
HAYWARD Drinkwater Scott 79 1848 Gloucester, Frampton 3 72   <br />
HAYWARD Edith Caroline 15m 1858 Gloucester, Frampton 4 477   <br />
HAYWARD Edward Jacob 29 1850 Gloucester, Frampton 3 257   <br />
HAYWARD Eliza 3w 1863 Gloucester, Frampton 5 409   <br />
HAYWARD Elizabeth 73 1868 Gloucester, Frampton 6 274   <br />
HAYWARD Elizabeth 69 1854 Gloucester, Frampton 4 130   <br />
HAYWARD Fanny 81 1859 Gloucester, Frampton 5 90   <br />
HAYWARD Female 2w 1861 Gloucester, Frampton 5 226   <br />
HAYWARD George 77 1870 Gloucester, Frampton 6 464   <br />
HAYWARD James 78 1850 Gloucester, Frampton 3 287   <br />
HAYWARD John 51 1868 Gloucester, Frampton 6 299   <br />
HAYWARD John 92 1852 Gloucester, Frampton 3 452   <br />
HAYWARD Joseph 79 1855 Gloucester, Frampton 4 206   <br />
HAYWARD Maria 43 1838 Gloucester, Frampton 1 60   <br />
HAYWARD Martha 2 1857 Gloucester, Frampton 4 397   <br />
HAYWARD Mary 63 1859 Gloucester, Frampton 5 82   <br />
HAYWARD Mary 23 1857 Gloucester, Frampton 4 414   <br />
HAYWARD Nathaniel 73 1837 Gloucester, Frampton 1 27   <br />
HAYWARD Richard 1 1841 Gloucester, Frampton 1 357   <br />
HAYWARD Robert 1 1842 Gloucester, Frampton 1 495   <br />
HAYWARD Samuel 6m 1845 Gloucester, Frampton 2 257   <br />
HAYWARD Sarah 23 1846 Gloucester, Frampton 2 421   <br />
HAYWARD Susan Elizabeth 2 1870 Gloucester, Frampton 6 429   <br />
HAYWARD Walter John 11m 1870 Gloucester, Frampton 6 475   <br />
HAYWARD William 67 1861 Gloucester, Frampton 5 287   <br />
HAYWARD William 78 1855 Gloucester, Frampton 4 267  </p>
<p>HOWEVER sadly I cannot see any of the above Hayward/Weston Births here apart from Edith. This may be because the site's only listing Deaths upto 1872, long before the 1911 Census. In this case it may be easier and wiser to use the FreeBMD site to give a similar easily-read list right up until 1911 (unlike GlosBMD that site lists Deaths as recent as the 1960s or so). <br />
Or maybe the name we're searching died in another District so must check them all.</p>
<p>Thinking about it, its probably far quicker to individually search the Death of each of the eight births listed earlier, probably FreeBMD is easier.<br />
<a href="http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl">http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl</a></p>
<p>I hope this helps if only a little, good luck !</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much. In the 1911 Census it says 2 dead; trying to figure out who else past away. Need to sit and concentrate...will let you know what I find.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 1911 Census should say if any of those 8 children were now dead.<br />
I presume it shows at least one dead, as you say the first Edith.<br />
You're correct in thinking the second name was used again &quot;in memory&quot; of the first one, this was quite common practice in the days of high child mortality rates. Or maybe those names were repeated as they had appeared earlier within the family line eg Mary's mother etc ? (sorry, I havent checked the rest of this thread).</p>
<p>Anyhow, from this FoD sites PRs we can find:</p>
<p>Record_ID: 144232 <br />
Entry_Number: 263 <br />
Year: 1857 <br />
Month: Dec <br />
Day: 27 <br />
Parents_Surname: HAYWARD <br />
Child_Forenames: Edith Caroline <br />
Fathers_Forenames: William <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Mary <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Arlingham <br />
Occupation: Labourer <br />
Officiating_Minister: Tho[ma]s H. Ravenhill Vicar <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P18 IN 1/8 <br />
Page_Number: 33 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Arlingham <br />
Soundex: H630 </p>
<p>But sadly</p>
<p>Record_ID: 262674 <br />
Entry_Number: 608 <br />
Year: 1858 <br />
Month: Jun <br />
Day: 13 <br />
Surname: HAYWARD <br />
Forenames: Edith Caroline <br />
Residence: Arlingham <br />
Age_at_death: 15 months <br />
Officiating_Minister: Tho[ma]s V Ravenshill Vicar <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause_of_death:  <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P18 IN 1/13 <br />
Page_No: 76 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Arlingham <br />
Soundex: H630 </p>
<p>Hence</p>
<p>Record_ID: 144381 <br />
Entry_Number: 412 <br />
Year: 1865 <br />
Month: Aug <br />
Day: 20 <br />
Parents_Surname: HAYWARD <br />
Child_Forenames: Edith Caroline <br />
Fathers_Forenames: William <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Mary <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Arlingham <br />
Occupation: Labourer <br />
Officiating_Minister: M.F.St.John Off:Min: <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P18 IN 1/8 <br />
Page_Number: 52 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Arlingham <br />
Soundex: H630 </p>
<p>Hopefully these events are reflected within the 1861 etc Census for this household.</p>
<p>Also, just in case the above Baptisms were not near to the actual births, worth crosschecking elsewhere.</p>
<p>From GlosBMD:</p>
<p>Birth Details<br />
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry <br />
HAYWARD Edith Caroline HAYWARD HAYWARD WESTON 1857 Gloucester Gloucester, Frampton 6 495 </p>
<p>Death Details<br />
Surname Given Names Age Year Died District Register Entry <br />
HAYWARD Edith Caroline 15m 1858 Gloucester, Frampton 4 477 </p>
<p>Birth Details<br />
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry <br />
HAYWARD Edith Caroline HAYWARD HAYWARD WESTON 1861 Gloucester Gloucester, Frampton 8 128 </p>
<p>Marriage Details<br />
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building   Year Register Entry <br />
PEEL John William HAYWARD Edith Caroline Gloucester Gloucester St Catherine  1888 27 No 2 177 <br />
<a href="http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx">http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx</a></p>
<p>And to confirm a few more details of these Registrations, from FreeBMD:</p>
<p>Surname  First name(s)  Age  District  Vol  Page  <br />
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Births Mar 1857   (&gt;99%)<br />
----------------------------------------------------<br />
Hayward  Edith Caroline    Wheatenhurst  6a 253    </p>
<p>----------------------------------------------------<br />
Births Dec 1861   (&gt;99%)<br />
----------------------------------------------------<br />
Hayward  Edith Caroline     Wheatenhurst  6a 258    <br />
----------------------------------------------------</p>
<p>============================</p>
<p>Surname  First name(s)  Age  District  Vol  Page  <br />
----------------------------------------------------<br />
Marriages Sep 1888   (&gt;99%)<br />
----------------------------------------------------<br />
Hayward  Edith Caroline    Gloucester  6a 464    <br />
Peel  John William     Gloucester  6a 464    <br />
----------------------------------------------------</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl">http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl</a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Charles did go by Edward!</p>
<p>Also,  in the 1911 census it says Mary Weston Hayward had 8 children. I only have 7. I did find in familysearch to Edith Caroline's one christened 1857 and the other 1865. Wonder if that is the missing child and they jus used the name again?!?!</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you think Charles &amp; Edward are the same person? And he just went by Edward after awhile?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks like him.</p>
<p>1861 England Census<br />
Parish of Arlingham<br />
High St<br />
RG9/1770; Folio: 20; Page:1</p>
<p>William H Hayward - Head - Mar - 27 - Brick Maker - Gloucestershire, Arlingham<br />
Mary H Hayward - Wife - 25 - Gloucestershire, Gloster<br />
<span style="color:#f00;">Charles E W Hayward </span>- Son - 2 - Gloucestershire, Arlingham<br />
Ellen Hayward - Sister - Un - 20 - Dressmaker - Gloucestershire, Arlingham<br />
Walter C Hayward - Nephew - 3 - Gloucestershire, Arlingham</p>
<p>1871 England Census<br />
Civil Parish of Arlingham<br />
RG10/2626; Folio: 22; Page: 6</p>
<p>William Hayward - Head - Mar - 39 - Brick Maker - Arlingham, Glostershire<br />
Mary H Hayward - Wife - Mar - 36 - Gloucester, Glostershire<br />
<span style="color:#f00;">Edward C Hayward</span>- Son - 11 - Scholar - Arlingham, Glostershire<br />
Edith C Hayward - Daughter - 9 - Scholar - Arlingham, Glostershire<br />
Joseph Hayward - Son - 6 - Scholar - Arlingham, Glostershire<br />
Mary A Hayward - Daughter - 3 - Scholar - Arlingham, Glostershire<br />
Frederick W Hayward - Son - 6 Mon - Arlingham, Glostershire</p>
<p>1881 England Census<br />
Civil Parish of Arlingham<br />
RG11/2540; Folio: 28; Page: 13</p>
<p>William Hayward - Head - Mar - Labourer - Arlingham, Glorshire<br />
Mary Hayward - Wife - Mar - 46 - Arlingham, Glorshire<br />
<span style="color:#f00;">Edward Hayward </span>- Son - Unm - 21 - Waterman - Arlingham, Glorshire<br />
Annie Hayward - Dau - 14 - Scholar - Arlingham, Glorshire<br />
Julia Hayward - Dau - 7 - Scholar - Arlingham, Glorshire<br />
Olive Hayward - Dau - 1 - Arlingham, Glorshire<br />
Frederick Hayward - Son - 10 - Scholar - Arlingham, Glorshire</p>
<p>1891 England Census<br />
Civil Parish of Arlingham<br />
High St<br />
RG12/2020; Folio: 4; Page: 1</p>
<p>William Hayward - Head - M - 59 - Fisherman - Glos, Arlingham<br />
Mary Hayward - Wife - M - 56 - Gloucester<br />
<span style="color:#f00;">Edward Hayward </span>- Son - S - 30 - Farm Laborer - Glos, Arlingham<br />
Frederick Hayward - Son - S - 19 - Farm Laborer - Glos, Arlingham<br />
Gulia [sic] Hayward - Daur - S - 17 - General Servant (Domestic) - Glos, Arlingham<br />
Olive Hayward - Daur - 10 - Scholar - Glos, Arlingham</p>
<p>1901 England Census<br />
Civil Parish of Arlingham<br />
High Street<br />
Arlingham</p>
<p>Mary Hayward - Head - Wid - 66 - Glos, Arlingham<br />
<span style="color:#f00;">Edward Hayward </span>- Son - S - 40 - General Farm Labourer - Glos, Arlingham<br />
Frederick Hayward - Son - S - 30 - General Farm Labourer - Glos, Arlingham<br />
Olive Hayward - Daughter - S - 20 - Assistant School Teacher - Glos, Arlingham</p>
<p>1911 England Census<br />
RG14; Piece; 15335; Schedule Number: 5<br />
Stonehouse<br />
Arlingham<br />
Glos</p>
<p>Mary Hayward - Head - 78 - Widow - 55/8/6/2 - Arlingham<br />
<span style="color:#f00;">Edward Hayward </span>- Son - 51 - Single - Fisherman - Arlingham<br />
Frederick Hayward - Son - 39 - Single - Farm Labourer - Arlingham<br />
Gilbert Wright - Son in Law - 34 - Married - Farm Labourer - Arlingham<br />
Olive Wright - Daughter - 30 - Married - 5/1/1/0 - Farm Labourer - Arlingham<br />
Gilbert Wright Jun - Grandson - 2 - Arlingham</p>
<p>Possible Death:</p>
<p>Source: FreeBMD<br />
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page <br />
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Deaths Mar 1931   (&gt;99%)<br />
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Hayward  Edward  71  Gloucester  6a 486</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully I didn't ask this one before (I read thru the posts and don't see it).</p>
<p>Question of the day!!</p>
<p>Charles Edward William Hayward, born 1859 in Arlingham to parents William Hayward born 1829 and Mary Weston born 1835.</p>
<p>1861 - High Street, Arlingham with parents and siblings<br />
1871 - No Charles but his parents &amp; siblings are there on Warth Farm</p>
<p>Can't seem to find him again...</p>
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