I am making a list from Devon and Gloucestershire now.

When Mary said her name was ALES, she could have meant something completely different, maybe she lost the 'H', as in 'Vorest Speak' or even 'Kairdiff Langwidge' that would open up a few more lines, I can't wait!

When I searched the Parish Records for BOWDEN/ALES, I found an interesting entry

John AYLES, occupation, Gentleman, residence, Ringwood Hants. married Sarah Ann PALMER,a shoemakers daughter from Chepstow.

It would have been nice to think that he was Mary Bowden's brother, who came to visit and fell for Sarah. There must be a story there somewhere.

Margaret

and again DOVE ROW

Edward CLARK - Widr - 41, Labourer, born Hackney, Middx
Mary PEPPERALL - 36 - born City
Charlotte PEPPERALL - 2

I can now rule out Charles BOWDEN, Shoredich, one down.

Not sure about the Clark/Eels, I will try to find them in 1851, Mary was with Charles by then.

I have been trying to match a married name of Mary Eales (plus variants), to a marriage to Charles Bowden (plus variants) It may take a while. Its too cold for gardening anyway.

Regards,
Margaret

Hackney, Haggerston St Mary - 22 September 1839

Edward CLARK, Minor, Bachelor, Painter & Glazier - Kings Land Road
father: William CLARK, Shoemaker

married

Mary Ann Rachel EELES, Minor, Spinster, Breadmaker? - Dove Row
father: William EELES, labourer **

witnesses: Henry EELES and Mary CLARK

??
*** Mary Ann's father's name given as William in previous reply

Baptism at Hackney (on Ancestry with these parents - Edward (labourer) & Mary Ann Rachel CLARK - Dove Row

Frances Ann CLARK - 3 May 1840

and

1841 Census, Middx, St Leonard, Shoreditch, Haggerston East

CLARK

Edward 20 - labourer - born in County
Mary Ann - 15 - not born in County
Frances - 1

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re: Charles BOWDEN age 30 - general dealer, born in County - 1841 census, Shoreditch
Emelia - 30
Charles - 5

This marriage is also on Ancestry

City of London, St Bride Fleet Street

16 August 1835

Charles BOWDEN - bachelor, of this Parish
and
Amelia CORSHAM - spinster, of this Parish

wintesses: George Cowham? Fanny Cowham?

Appear on later census together in Middlesex

I found this Marriage, but I dont think it is the right Mary. Probably its the Mary Ann Rachael EELS b1821 in Southwark.

Mary Ann Rachel EELS married in Shoreditch 1839 to ?, there is a choice of four on the same page, I can't work out which one yet.

Just a coincidence, a Charles BOWDEN was in Shoreditch in 1841.

Also in 1841 a Charles BOWDEN and a Mary EALES were living in Broadclist, St. Thomas, Devon.

I still can't find a suitable marriage for Charles and Mary, it is possible they had both married before.

I will have to do some more digging.

Margaret

1871 Scott St Cardiff
Charles Bowden 58 Devonshire Labourer
Mary Bowden 46 Devonshire
Mary Ann Bowden 20 Chepstow
Susan Bowden 17 Cardiff
Sarah Jane Bowden 15 Cardiff
Esther Bowden 4 Cardiff
Charles Bowden 2 Cardiff

Name: Caroline Hester Bowden
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1867
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 218

Name: Caroline Esther Bowden & Alfred James
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1886
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorgan
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 485

1891
Alfred James abt 1847 Cardiff Head Canton, Glamorgan
Esther James abt 1867 Cardiff Wife Canton, Glamorgan
Thomas James abt 1874 Cardiff Son Canton, Glamorgan
John James abt 1876 Cardiff Son Canton, Glamorgan
Arthur James abt 1878 Cardiff Son Canton, Glamorgan
Charles James abt 1888 Cardiff Son Canton, Glamorgan
Laura James abt 1884 Cardiff Daughter Canton, Glamorgan

1901
Alfred James abt 1847 Gloucestershire, England Head Canton, Glamorgan
Caroline James abt 1867 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Wife Canton, Glamorgan
Alfred C James abt 1887 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Son Canton, Glamorgan
Laura E James abt 1890 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Canton, Glamorgan
William A James abt 1895 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Son Canton, Glamorgan
Frederick J Berry abt 1879 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Boarder Canton, Glamorgan

1911 99 Wellington St Canton Cardiff Glamorgan
Alfred James 64 Gloucester
Caroline Esther James 44 Cardiff
Laura Elizabeth James 21
William Albert James 16
Herbert Edward James 8
Frank Leslie James 2

Name: Caroline E James
Birth Date: abt 1867
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1935
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 324

On the birth Certs for the Last two children, mother's former name is ALES.

candidate

Name: Mary Rachel Eales
Gender: Female
Christening Date:27 Jun 1824
Christening Place:ASHBURTON,DEVON,ENGLAND
Father's Name:William Eales
Mother's Name:Elizabeth
Indexing Project (Batch) Number:C05020-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 916801

1841
William Eales abt 1796 Devon, England Ashburton, Devon
Elizabeth Eales abt 1796 Devon, England Ashburton, Devon
William Eales abt 1821 Devon, England Ashburton, Devon
Valentine Eales abt 1829 Devon, England Ashburton, Devon
George Eales abt 1831 Devon, England Ashburton, Devon
Mary Farley abt 1829 Devon, England Ashburton, Devon

1851
William Eales abt 1792 Ashburton, Devon, England Head Ashburton, Devon
Mary Eales abt 1799 Ermington, Devon, England Wife Ashburton, Devon
Valentine Eales abt 1829 Ashburton, Devon, England Son Ashburton, Devon
George Eales abt 1831 Ashburton, Devon, England Son Ashburton, Devon

Good evening FOD Squad, I know how much you enjoy solving my brickwalls, so I thought you might like another one ;-))

1851 Census

Charles Bowden, 1811, born Devon
Mary 1823, Devon
Elizabeth,1848, Chepstow.
Charles, 1850, Chepstow.

I have searched the Parish Records and found just one entry, Charles Bowden,died 1851 age 2, no births listed or a marriage for Charles and Mary.I have also checked the Gloucestershire BMD Indexes.

By 1861 they were in Cardiff, Elizabeth and Charles Jnr.are gone,but there are three more children,

Mary A. 1852, Chepstow,
Susanna, 1855, Cardiff.
Sarah, 1857, Cardiff.

On the birth Certs for the Last two children, mother's former name is ALES.

Any help would be very welcome.

Regards,
Margaret

Langford Green is south of Cullompton, DEV

Name: Elizabeth Bowden
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1847
Registration district: Chepstow
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 26
Page: 58

Name: Charles Bowden
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1849
Registration district: Chepstow
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 26
Page: 64

1851 High St Chepstow
Charles Bowden 40 Langford Green, Devon, England Railway Labourer
Mary Bowden 28 Ashburton Devon
Elizabeth Bowden 3 Chepstow
Charles Bowden 1 Chepstow

Year: 1851
Month: Oct
Day: 17
Surname: BOWDEN
Forenames: Charles
Residence: High Street
Age_at_death: 2
Officiating_Minister: William Davies Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: D/Pa.86.19
Page_No: 135
Parish_Chapel: Chepstow

Name: Mary Ann Bowden
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1851
Registration district: Chepstow
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 26
Page: 53

1861 Scott St Cardiff
Charles Bowden abt 1813 Lanverd Green, Devon, England Head Cardiff St Mary, Glamorgan Navvy
Mary Bowden abt 1823 Ashburton, Devon, England Wife Cardiff St Mary, Glamorgan
Mary A Bowden abt 1852 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Cardiff St Mary, Glamorgan
Susannah Bowden abt 1855 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Cardiff St Mary, Glamorgan
Sarah J Bowden abt 1857 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Cardiff St Mary, Glamorgan

1871 Scott St Cardiff
Charles Bowden 58 Devonshire Labourer
Mary Bowden 46 Devonshire
Mary Ann Bowden 20 Chepstow
Susan Bowden 17 Cardiff
Sarah Jane Bowden 15 Cardiff
Esther Bowden 4 Cardiff
Charles Bowden 2 Cardiff

Name: Mary Bowden ??????
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1873
Age at Death: 47
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 151

Name: Charles Bowden
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1873
Age at Death: 4
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 131

1881 Cardiff Union Workhouse
Sarah Jane Bowden abt 1856 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Inmate Cardiff St John, Glamorgan

1851 Census

Charles Bowden, 1811, born Devon
Mary 1823, Devon
Elizabeth,1848, Chepstow.
Charles, 1850, Chepstow.

I have searched the Parish Records and found just one entry, Charles Bowden,died 1851 age 2, no births listed or a marriage for Charles and Mary.I have also checked the Gloucestershire BMD Indexes.

By 1861 they were in Cardiff, Elizabeth and Charles Jnr.are gone,but there are three more children,

Mary A. 1852, Chepstow,
Susanna, 1855, Cardiff.
Sarah, 1857, Cardiff.

On the birth Certs for the Last two children, mother's former name is ALES.

Any help would be very welcome.

Regards,
Margaret