Yes thanks Slowhands, that's my family :)

this is all connection to my previous threads about her mother Elizabeth Howell nee Ward listing on the 1911 census that she had 14 children.. I know she was carrying another at the time, making it 15. I had 12 including the one she is carrying so I am still missing 3 !

determined to find them.. I wonder about stillbirth's though?.. would they have been registered... she wasn't one for getting them baptised until a couple in 1896 Gladys and Lizzie who seem to have been baptised the same day as 3 of her brother's and sisters who were baptised as older children.

Think I am also going to have to check that none of her siblings were actually her children but may hve been brought up by her parents.. yikes..

with the price rise if I don't get it sorted soon it could cost me a fortune!!

Simone x