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<title>Mary Walker MUNDAY 1840 - 1872 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deaths Jun 1872   (&gt;99%)<br />
SIMMONDS  Mary  31  Wolverhampton  6b 365 </p>
<p>1871 Wood Mill Aylburton<br />
William Monday Head - Male 66 1805 Gardiner Devizes, Somerset, England<br />
Sarah Monday Wife - Female 55 1816 Gardiner Carlron, Monmouthshire, Wales</p>
<p><br />
1861 Aylburton<br />
William Munday Head Married Male 51 1810 Agricultural labourer Devizes, Wiltshire, England<br />
Sarah Munday Wife Married Female 36 1825 - Caerleon, Monmouthshire, Wales<br />
Mary Munday Daughter Unmarried Female 21 1840 Dressmaker Lydney, Gloucestershire, England<br />
George Munday Son Unmarried Male 19 1842 Forgeman Lydney, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Eliza Munday Daughter - Female 14 1847 - Lydney, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Fanny Munday Daughter - Female 8 1853 - Lydney, Gloucestershire, England</p>
<p><br />
1851 Lydney Basin<br />
William Monday Head Married Male 43 1808 Wharfinger Wiltshire, England<br />
Sally Monday Wife Married Female 42 1809 - Lydney, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Charles Monday Son Unmarried Male 18 1833 Butcher Lydney, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Mary Monday Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1839 - Lydney, Gloucestershire, England<br />
George Monday Son - Male 10 1841 Scholar Lydney, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Hannah Monday Daughter - Female 7 1844 Scholar Lydney, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Ann Monday Daughter - Female 5 1846 - Lydney, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Eliza Monday Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Lydney, Gloucestershire, England</p>
<p><br />
1841 Broad Holes Lydney<br />
William Mundy Male 36 1805 Gloucestershire, England Ag Lab<br />
Sarah Mundy Female 30 1811 Gloucestershire, England<br />
Charles Mundy Male 7 1834 Gloucestershire, England<br />
Mary Mundy Female 1 1840 Gloucestershire, England</p>
<p><br />
Year: 1840<br />
Month: Jan<br />
Day: 4<br />
Parents_Surname: MUNDAY<br />
Child_Forenames: Mary Walker<br />
Fathers_Forenames: William<br />
Mothers_Forenames: Sally<br />
Mothers_Surname: <br />
Residence: Lydney<br />
Occupation: Labourer<br />
Officiating_Minister: Charles Taylor Vicar<br />
Event: Baptism<br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: PFC 209 IN 1/3<br />
Page_Number: 179<br />
Parish_Chapel: Lydney</p>
<p>Year: 1834<br />
Month: Apr<br />
Day: 7<br />
Grooms_Surname: MUNDEY<br />
Grooms_Forenames: William<br />
Grooms_Age: <br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor<br />
Grooms_Occupation: <br />
Grooms_Residence: Hundred of St Briavels<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: <br />
Brides_Surname: WALKER<br />
Brides_Forenames: Sarah<br />
Brides_Age: <br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster<br />
Brides_Occupation: <br />
Brides_Residence: Hundred of St Briavels<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: <br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns<br />
Date_of_Banns: <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign<br />
Witness_1: Edward Henson<br />
Witness_2: Mary Walker<br />
Other_Witnesses: <br />
Officiating_Minister: Yate Fosbroke Curate<br />
Event: Marriage<br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P278 IN 1/11<br />
Page_Number: 2<br />
Parish_Chapel: St Briavels</p>
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<title>George SIMMONDS 1840 Walford/Lydbrook Area(?) - 1900 (?) (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1871 Lydney<br />
George Simonds Head - Male 31 1840 Labourer Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Mary W Simonds Wife - Female 30 1841 - Lydney, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Charles W Simonds Son - Male 0 1871 - Lydney, Gloucestershire, England</p>
<p><br />
Births Sep 1870   (&gt;99%)<br />
Simmonds  Charles William    Westbury S.  6a 222 ( good for Blakeney birth)</p>
<p>Marriages Dec 1869   (&gt;99%)<br />
Munday  Mary Walker    Chepstow  11a 13 <br />
SIMMONDS  George    Chepstow  11a 13</p>
<p>Year: 1869<br />
Month: Dec<br />
Day: 30<br />
Grooms_Surname: SIMMONDS<br />
Grooms_Forenames: George<br />
Grooms_Age: Of full age<br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor<br />
Grooms_Occupation: Collier<br />
Grooms_Residence: Lydney<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: SIMMONDS<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: George<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer<br />
Brides_Surname: MUNDY<br />
Brides_Forenames: Mary Walker<br />
Brides_Age: Of full age<br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster<br />
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]<br />
Brides_Residence: Lydney<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: MUNDY<br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: William<br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer<br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns<br />
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]<br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign<br />
Witness_1: James Wilkins<br />
Witness_2: Sarah Ann Jones<br />
Other_Witnesses: <br />
Officiating_Minister: Henry Morgan<br />
Event: Marriage<br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/15<br />
Page_Number: 236<br />
Parish_Chapel: Lydney</p>
<p>1851 Joys Green<br />
George Simmonds Head Married Male 38 1813 Labourer Herefordshire, England<br />
Eliza Simmonds Wife Married Female 36 1815 Wife Gloucestershire, England<br />
Mary Ann Wood Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1836 At home -<br />
Eliza Simmonds Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1838 At home -<br />
George Simmonds Son Unmarried Male 11 1840 At home -<br />
William Simmonds Son Unmarried Male 2 1849 At home </p>
<p><br />
1841 Ruardean ( Morse Drybrook area)<br />
George Simmons Male 26 1815 Gloucestershire, England<br />
George Simmons Male 1 1840 Gloucestershire, England<br />
Eliza Simmons Female 25 1816 Gloucestershire, England<br />
Eliza Simmons Female 2 1839 Gloucestershire, England</p>
<p>then maybe moved to the Black Country</p>
<p>Marriages Dec 1872   (&gt;99%)<br />
Dyke  Sarah    Wolverhampton  6b 805  <br />
SIMMONDS  George    Wolverhampton  6b 805</p>
<p><br />
1881 Smiths Bldgs, 5, Bilston Street, Bilston, Wolverhampton<br />
George Symmonds Head Married Male 41 1840 Tin plate worker Gloucestershire, England<br />
Sarah Symmonds Wife Married Female 44 1837 - Tipton, Staffordshire, England<br />
Mary Dyke Step daughter Single Female 24 1857 Domestic servant unemployed Bilston, Staffordshire, England<br />
Jonathan Dyke Step son Single Male 20 1861 Boat steerer on canal Bilston, Staffordshire, England<br />
Sarah J Dyke Step daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar Bilston, Staffordshire, England<br />
Charles W Symmonds Son Single Male 10 1871 Scholar Gloucestershire, England<br />
Phoebe A Symmonds Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Scholar Bilston, Staffordshire, England</p>
<p>1891 Bilston Wolverhampton<br />
George Symmonds Head Married Male 51 1840 Iron worker doubler Walford, Herefordshire, England<br />
Sarah Symmonds Wife Married Female 55 1836 - Tipton, Staffordshire, England<br />
Charles Symmonds Son Single Male 20 1871 Iron catcher Blakeney, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Phoebe Symmonds Daughter Single Female 16 1875 Iron worker Bilston, Staffordshire, England</p>
<p>Deaths Sep 1900   (&gt;99%)<br />
Simmonds  George  60  Wolverhampton  6b 412</p>
<p>1901 Bilston<br />
Sarah Simmonds Wife Widow Female 64 1837 - Tipton, Staffordshire, England<br />
Phoebe Bennett Daughter Married Female 25 1876 Holloway on mather (brusher) Bilston, Staffordshire, England<br />
Maud Shoobridge Grand daughter Single Female 17 1884 Holloway on mather (swiller) London, Middlesex, England</p>
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<title>Tracing George Simmonds.</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Help requested in tracing George Simmonds.  Born 1840. Married to Mary Simmonds nee Munday.</p>
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<title>Subject: Tracing WORGAN of St Briavels / Whitepool / Worgan' (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Nick</p>
<p>Thank you so much for contacting me,<br />
It would be amazing if you can help with my serch.<br />
My email address rworgan@hotmail.co.uk </p>
<p>Best, Robin</p>
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<title>Subject: Tracing WORGAN of St Briavels / Whitepool / Worgan' (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robin, my mother's maiden name was Worgan, and I did a fair bit of research on the family connectios a few years ago. In addition to the normal b.m.d records I also  looked at a number of wills and other legal docs from the Forest area, some dating back over 500 years.</p>
<p>Truth to tell my memory of my findings is rather hazy now, but I did document a lot of the info and cross-reference it in an Excel spreadsheet. You're more than welcome to a copy of this. Just drop me a message on here with your email address.</p>
<p>All the best Nick D</p>
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<title>James WORGAN and Eleanor GWYNNE ? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>probable</p>
<p>1851<br />
James Worgan Head Married Male 64 1787 Waterman St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Nelly Worgan Wife - Female 65 1786 - St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Eleanor Worgan Daughter Unmarried Female 40 1811 At home St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Eliza Worgan Daughter Unmarried Female 30 1821 Dress maker St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England<br />
John Worgan Son - Male 13 1838 At home St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England</p>
<p>Year: 1806<br />
Month: Apr<br />
Day: 29<br />
Grooms_Surname: WORGAN<br />
Grooms_Forenames: James<br />
Grooms_Age: <br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor<br />
Grooms_Occupation: <br />
Grooms_Residence: Parish of St Briavels<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: <br />
Brides_Surname: GWYNNE<br />
Brides_Forenames: Eleanor<br />
Brides_Age: <br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster<br />
Brides_Occupation: <br />
Brides_Residence: Parish of St Briavels<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: <br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns<br />
Date_of_Banns: <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark<br />
Witness_1: William Hulin, Clark<br />
Witness_2: The mark of Sarah Worgan<br />
Other_Witnesses: <br />
Officiating_Minister: Thomas Thomas, Curate<br />
Event: Marriage<br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P278 IN 1/9<br />
Page_Number: 53<br />
Parish_Chapel: St Briavels</p>
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<title>James WORGAN circa 1818 of Brockweir (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Possible </p>
<p>Year: 1818<br />
Month: Jan<br />
Day: 11<br />
Parents_Surname: WORGAN<br />
Child_Forenames: James<br />
Fathers_Forenames: James<br />
Mothers_Forenames: Eleanor<br />
Mothers_Surname: <br />
Residence: Brockwear<br />
Occupation: Waterman<br />
Officiating_Minister: Tho[mas] Thomas<br />
Event: Baptism<br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P175 IN 1/4<br />
Page_Number: 13<br />
Parish_Chapel: Hewelsfield</p>
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<title>Richard WORGAN 1848 of St Briavels (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Year: 1871<br />
Month: Dec<br />
Day: 23<br />
Grooms_Surname: WORGAN<br />
Grooms_Forenames: Richard<br />
Grooms_Age: 23<br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor<br />
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer<br />
Grooms_Residence: S[t] Briavels Common<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Worgan<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Waterman<br />
Brides_Surname: HUGHES<br />
Brides_Forenames: Sarah Jane<br />
Brides_Age: 24<br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster<br />
Brides_Occupation: <br />
Brides_Residence: S[t] Briavels Common<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Hughes<br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: William<br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer<br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns<br />
Date_of_Banns: <br />
Signature_or_Mark: He marks she signs<br />
Witness_1: Mark of William Scriven<br />
Witness_2: Sarah Jane Worgan<br />
Other_Witnesses: <br />
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Taprell Allen Vicar<br />
Event: Marriage<br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P278 IN 1/12<br />
Page_Number: 195<br />
Parish_Chapel: St Briavels</p>
<p>1861 St Briavels<br />
James Worgan Head Married Male 43 1818 Mariner St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Jane Worgan Wife Married Female 43 1818 - St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Margaret Worgan Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1844 - St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Richard Worgan Son Unmarried Male 13 1848 - St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Mary Worgan Daughter Unmarried Female 10 1851 - St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England<br />
James Worgan Son - Male 4 1857 - St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England</p>
<p>1851 St Briavels,<br />
James Worgan Head Married Male 32 1819 Waterman St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Jane Worgan Wife Married Female 32 1819 - St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Charlotte Worgan Daughter - Female 10 1841 Scholar St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Margaret Worgan Daughter - Female 8 1843 Scholar St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Sarah Jane Worgan Daughter - Female 5 1846 Scholar St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Richard Worgan Son - Male 3 1848 Scholar St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Mary Worgan Daughter - Female 0 1851 - St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England</p>
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<title>William James WORGAN 1876 of St Briavels (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this feels like your G Grandfather</p>
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1939 No 3 Council Houses, Saint Briavels, Coldharbour,<br />
William J Worgan 01 Apr 1876 Male Colliery On Setter Heavy Worker Married 78 1<br />
Edith G Worgan 07 Dec 1879 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 78 2<br />
Dulcie M Worgan 29 Aug 1908 Female Daily Domestic Single 78 3<br />
Mabel Worgan 20 Apr 1913 Female Daily Domestic Single 78 4<br />
The record for this person is officially closed</p>
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1921 Cold Harbourne St. Briavels, St. Briavel's, Monmouthshire, Gloucestershire, Wales<br />
Head William J. Worgan Circa 1877 Collier at Princes Royal Colliery Company Bream<br />
Wife Edith Worgan Circa 1880<br />
Son Stanley Worgan Circa 1903<br />
Daughter Dulcie Worgan Circa 1909<br />
Son Cyril Worgan Circa 1911<br />
Daughter Mabel Worgan Circa 1913</p>
<p>1911 Cold Harbour Street, Briavels<br />
Head William Worgan 33<br />
Wife Edith Worgan 30<br />
Son Stanley Worgan 8<br />
Daughter Dulcie Worgan 2</p>
<p>1901 St Briavels Common, St Briavels,<br />
Head Richard Worgan 53<br />
Wife Sarah Jane Worgan 53<br />
Son William James Worgan 24<br />
Daughter Sarah Jane Worgan 20<br />
Daughter Annie Margret Worgan 17<br />
Son Richard John Worgan 14</p>
<p>1881 Common, St Briavels<br />
Head Richard Worgan 33<br />
Wife Sarah Jane Worgan 33<br />
Daughter Mary Jane Worgan 8<br />
Daughter Edith Rose Worgan 6<br />
Son William J Worgan 4<br />
Daughter Sarah Jane Worgan 6 months\</p>
<p><br />
Year: 1877<br />
Month: Apr<br />
Day: 29<br />
Parents_Surname: WORGAN<br />
Child_Forenames: William James<br />
Fathers_Forenames: Richard<br />
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah Jane<br />
Mothers_Surname: <br />
Residence: S Briavels Common<br />
Occupation: Labourer<br />
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Taprell Allen Vicar<br />
Event: Baptism<br />
Memoranda: son of<br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P278 IN 1/7<br />
Page_Number: 52<br />
Parish_Chapel: St Briavels</p>
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<title>Timothy Mountjoy 1824 -1896 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you — that's a generous bit of work.</p>
<p>Mountjoy was baptized at Drybrook in October 1824, and my Samuel Horobin was baptized in the same register volume, a few years and a few dozen pages apart in the same book.</p>
<p>My uncle quoted him in 1980 without, I think, knowing anything about him. Interesting!</p>
<p>One thought your post set off. I see from the Victoria County History that Mountjoy formed the East Dean Economic Benefit Society at the Baptist chapel in 1854, and that it promoted temperance, and that several Forest friendly societies met at chapels rather than public houses. That sits far more comfortably with my Samuel than a Masonic lodge does — he married at Parkend, and his children were baptized and both his wives buried at Coleford Congregational. A chapel benefit society badge would make sense of the star and the plain ribbon.</p>
<p>Do you know whether the records of those Forest societies survive anywhere, or what their regalia looked like?</p>
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<title>Subject: Tracing WORGAN of St Briavels / Whitepool / Worgan'</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subject: Tracing WORGAN of St Briavels / Whitepool / Worgan's Wood<br />
Message:<br />
Hello everyone,<br />
I am looking for some assistance in tracing my family branch and the physical lands they held around St Briavels.<br />
My grandfather was Stanley William Worgan, who was born on 7 July 1902 in St Briavels and tragically died quite young on 6 August 1933. He is buried at St Briavels. At the time of his passing, his residence was noted as Whitepool, St Briavels. He was married to Lilian May Worgan.<br />
His parents were William James Worgan (b. ~1874/1876 in the Forest of Dean, d. 1949 at 3 Council Villas, St Briavels) and Edith Gertrude Williams (b. 1879, d. 1962). They were married in the Chepstow registration district in 1899.<br />
I am particularly interested in two things:<br />
1. Tracing the family line further back from William James Worgan.<br />
2. Finding out more about the history, old tenement data, or ancestral land boundaries associated with Worgan’s Wood near Tidenham / St Briavels, and if it links directly to this Whitepool branch.<br />
If anyone has indexed any local churchyard records, Land Tax records, or Forest gavel records that overlap with this family, I would be incredibly grateful for your insights!<br />
Many thanks,<br />
Robin Worgan</p>
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<title>Timothy Mountjoy 1824 -1896 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://forestofdeanhistory.org.uk/learn-about-the-forest/green-plaque-timothy-mountjoy/">https://forestofdeanhistory.org.uk/learn-about-the-forest/green-plaque-timothy-mountjoy/</a></p>
<p><br />
Published in 1887 by A Chilver. Length 109 pages. Full Title The Life, Labours, and Deliverances of a Forest of Dean Collier, <br />
Born the 11th Day of September, 1824, on Little Dean Hill, in the Hundred of St. Breveals, in the County of Gloucester, with Many Things He Witnessed as He Journeyed Through Life:</p>
<p><br />
Year: 1824<br />
Month: Oct<br />
Day: 3<br />
Parents_Surname: MOUNTJOY<br />
Child_Forenames: Timothy<br />
Fathers_Forenames: Joseph<br />
Mothers_Forenames: Ann<br />
Mothers_Surname: <br />
Residence: Little Dean Hill<br />
Occupation: Lime Burner<br />
Officiating_Minister: H. Berkin<br />
Event: Baptism<br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/1<br />
Page_Number: 52<br />
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook</p>
<p>1841 Dean Woodside<br />
Rosanna Mountjoy Female 55 1786 Gloucestershire, England<br />
Timothy Mountjoy Male 15 1826 Gloucestershire, England<br />
Amelia Mountjoy Female 9 1832 Gloucestershire, England</p>
<p>1851<br />
Woodside</p>
<p>Timothy Mountjoy Head Married Male 26 1825 Coal miner Gloucestershire, England<br />
Caroline Mountjoy Wife Married Female 25 1826 - Cambridge, Gloucestershire, England</p>
<p>1861 Bilson Green Widower</p>
<p>1871 St John Cinderford<br />
Timothy Mountjoy Head - Male 48 1823 Coal miner Little Dean Hill, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Sarah Mountjoy Wife - Female 47 1824 - Cropthorn, Worcestershire, England</p>
<p>1881 Cinderford<br />
Timothy Mountjoy Head Married Male 56 1825 Beer seller Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Sarah Mountjoy Wife Married Female 56 1825 - Cropthorne, Worcestershire, England</p>
<p>1891 Claremont Villa, 2, Commercial Street, Cinderford<br />
Timothy Mountjoy Head Married Male 66 1825 Retired miners agent Gloucestershire, England<br />
Sarah Mountjoy Wife Married Female 66 1825 - Cropthorne, Worcestershire, England</p>
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Year: 1896<br />
Month: Nov<br />
Day: 29<br />
Surname: MOUNTJOY<br />
Forenames: Timothy<br />
Residence: Cinderford<br />
Age_at_death: 72<br />
Officiating_Minister: William Barker Vicar<br />
Event: Burial<br />
Cause_of_death: <br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/13<br />
Page_No: 104<br />
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1851   26, Clearwells Meend, <br />
Thomas Mountjoy Head Married Male 40 1811 Iron miner Gloucestershire, England<br />
Charlotte Mountjoy Wife Married Female 42 1809 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Maria Mountjoy Daughter - Female 10 1841 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Thomas Mountjoy Son - Male 7 1844 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England<br />
James Mountjoy Son - Male 3 1848 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England</p>
<p>Year: 1868<br />
Month: Aug<br />
Day: 1<br />
Grooms_Surname: MOUNTJOY<br />
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas<br />
Grooms_Age: 24<br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor<br />
Grooms_Occupation: Miner<br />
Grooms_Residence: Claverands Green Clearwell<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Mountjoy<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Miner<br />
Brides_Surname: HILL<br />
Brides_Forenames: Annie<br />
Brides_Age: 23<br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster<br />
Brides_Occupation: Servant<br />
Brides_Residence: Clements Tump<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Hill<br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: James<br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier<br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns<br />
Date_of_Banns: <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign<br />
Witness_1: Mark of William Hore<br />
Witness_2: Miriam Hore<br />
Other_Witnesses: <br />
Officiating_Minister: Basil A. Galland<br />
Event: Marriage<br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/8<br />
Page_Number: 61<br />
Parish_Chapel: Bream</p>
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Year: 1883<br />
Month: Oct<br />
Day: 18<br />
Parents_Surname: MOUNTJOY<br />
Child_Forenames: Arthur<br />
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas<br />
Mothers_Forenames: Annie<br />
Mothers_Surname: <br />
Residence: Sling<br />
Occupation: Miner<br />
Officiating_Minister: H L Perry Vicar<br />
Event: Baptism<br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: P88 IN 1/2<br />
Page_Number: 83<br />
Parish_Chapel: Clearwell</p>
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1901 Clearwell Meand<br />
Thomas Mountjoy Head Married Male 56 1845 Coal miner West Dean, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Annie Mountjoy Wife Married Female 56 1845 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Harry Mountjoy Son Single Male 19 1882 Coal miner West Dean, Gloucestershire, England<br />
<span style="color:#f00;">Arthur Mountjoy</span> Son Single Male 17 1884 Coal miner West Dean, Gloucestershire, England</p>
<p>I suspect in 1910 1920 1930 and possibly 1940 he is in  Sharon Ward 4, Mercer, Pennsylvania, United States<br />
He appears to marry in 1911 in Lawrence, Pennsylvania, United States</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you — that's fair, and I'll leave the dating to someone better qualified. You may well be right about the fifties. I have confirmed that the frame was added much later by a family member, with a plywood backing and no marks of any kind on the back. The question of where the portrait was made is now one for a conservator, who may be able to date the paper and the process.</p>
<p>The second part of your reply is interesting. The names you list — Mountjoy, Kear, Brain, Virgo, Gwilliam — are new to me as a group, and they change how I have been thinking about the emigration. I had been treating my family as individuals who happened to leave; a documented current of Forest families into Allegheny County for the mines and the iron is a different thing altogether.</p>
<p>Mountjoy particularly. My uncle, who compiled a family history in 1980, quoted Timothy Mountjoy on the hard times in the Forest — the passage about a great depression having visited them, the poor in a state of starvation, and many having left for other colonies. It had not occurred to me that Mountjoys were among those who went to the same corner of Pennsylvania my family did.</p>
<p>Is there a published account of that migration, or is it local knowledge? I would be very glad of a reference if one exists.</p>
<p>For what it is worth from this end: Samuel Horobin sailed from Bristol on the SS Devon, arriving New York on 12 April 1881, in a list carrying several other English colliers and a miner. His daughter Edith and her husband James Aston followed from Liverpool on the SS Wyoming in October 1882. Both ended up at Beadling, in Allegheny County.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is difficult to &quot;age&quot; him - my feeling with the loss of hair would be a man in his Fifties, which I think would put him in Pittsburgh area (?) rather than in the Forest. Ill assume there is no photographer's plate or note on the rear of the frame/portrait.</p>
<p>Interesting that Allegheny took a lot of families from Wales and England, including the Forest, for their labour/ Iron/ Steel / Mining / Timber experiences - Mountjoy, Kear, Brain, Virgo Cinderey Gwilliam etc from the FoD.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting thought, but the family settled at Beadling in Allegheny County, in the southwest, well outside the Pennsylvania German districts, and he looks to be in his forties, which would put the portrait in the Forest years rather than the American ones. I think it's worth looking into further though. Thanks!</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for what its worth - Im wondering if the answer lies closer to home - given the dutch (?) Pennsylvania barn stars I wonder if this is a local / county related insignia ?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, that's very kind. Here's a link to my drive with the images - best we can manage through the glass.</p>
<p><a href="https://drive.proton.me/urls/V3ZCZC4FKM#aSU4aeHCgiPF">https://drive.proton.me/urls/V3ZCZC4FKM#aSU4aeHCgiPF</a></p>
<p>One detail that may help: it isn't a sash worn across the body. It's a plain pale ribbon, about the width of the medal itself, hanging straight down from it on the left breast. No apron or collar is visible.</p>
<p>I've also asked the Museum of Freemasonry, and I'll post whatever they say here.</p>
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<p>Mark Whitwill was born in 1857 in Bristol, Gloucestershire, England.</p>
<p>He was a shipowner, shipbroker, and philanthropist. He worked at Mark Whitwill &amp; Son, Shipowners and Brokers and General Shipping Agents, a firm established by his father, Mark Whitwill (1826-1903), in Bristol in 1831. They were managers of Great Western Line of Steamers, Bristol &amp; New York, and agents for the Royal Mail Steam Packet Company, the Allan Line of Steamers to Quebec, and the National Line of Steamers to New York.</p>
<p>In 1883, he married Emma Reece May (1860–). He died on December 5, 1921, in Keynsham, Somerset, England.</p>
<p>advert showing cost of one way steerage class ticket to New York<br />
<a href="https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Mark_Whitwill_and_Son">https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Mark_Whitwill_and_Son</a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you — that's useful, and it cuts down the possibilities.</p>
<p>Good to have the Buffaloes ruled out; I hadn't known their regalia carried a buffalo. And thank you for the point about the pentagram and freemasonry — I had been leaning away from the family's Masonic attribution, so it is worth my testing properly rather than dismissing.</p>
<p>I have since found that the Royal Forest of Dean Lodge No. 1067 was warranted in May 1865 and consecrated in June 1866, meeting at the Town Hall in Coleford and at the Speech House — about a mile from where Samuel lived. It moved to Newnham-on-Severn from 1869, which would have been a long walk from Coalway Lane End. A search of the Grand Lodge membership registers returns three possible entries under Horobin and Harobin, though I cannot see the details without a subscription, so I have asked the Museum of Freemasonry whether any of them relate to a Gloucestershire lodge.</p>
<p>If they come back with an answer I will post it here, in case it is of use to anyone else.</p>
<p>Might I ask one thing: do you know whether the friendly societies in the Forest — the Oddfellows, the Foresters, or local benefit or burial clubs — used a five-pointed star in a circular badge? The one in the portrait hangs from a broad plain ribbon on the left breast, with no apron or collar.</p>
<p>With thanks,</p>
<p>Lottie Aston</p>
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