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Joss

http://www.wyenot.com/whitchurch02.htm

Whitchurch is adjacent to 3 registration offices - Monmouth, Ross and Forest of Dean !

http://www.a2a.org.uk/html/044-ac76.htm suggests that the Hereford Office holds the Parish records

Thanks

Joss

Henry PEWTNER 27 Chaise Dorxxx ?
Ann 30
M Ann 2
Jane 4
Elizabeth 2 months

All born in county

Name : Albert William J Morgan ?
Name: Gertrude Theresa Pewtner
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 575

A few assumptions here :-

1901 ??? Upper Bilson
Albert Morgan abt 1875 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Gertrude Morgan abt 1879 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire

1881 Newham Bottom / Ruardean Hill Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England

William Pavtner Or Partner abt 1855 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head
Mary B. Pavtner Or Partner abt 1856 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife
Gertrude Pavtner Or Partner abt 1879 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter

< Image looks like Pewtner to me >

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Joss

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See related thread
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=17952

Joss states that Esaias PEWTNER married Mary Ann CAILAWAY. This should read CALLAWAY.
In 1851 Census Mother in law Hannah WEBB is with the family. This marriage from GFHS Marriage Index:
14 May 1815 John WEBB of Hundred of St Briavels married Hannah CALLAWAY, Widow of Hundred of St Briavels at Newland.
This is possible previous marriage:
12 August 1805 James CALLAWAY, extra parochial married Joannah WILLIAMS, extra parochial, at English Bicknor.
And from GFHS Burial Index:
Date: 30 MAR 1813
First Name: JAS
Surname: CALLOWAY
Age: 30
Burial Register: STAUNTON NEAR COLEFORD 1813-1883
Place of Abode: BERRY HILL

Date: 25 JAN 1848
First Name: JOHN
Surname: WEBB
Age: 67
Burial Register: CHRISTCHURCH FOREST OF DEAN 1843-1857
Place of Abode: BERRY HILL

This entry from the IGI:
17 November 1776 Joanna WILLIAMS baptised at English Bicknor. Parents John WILLIAMS and Jane.

The following burials are from GFHS Burial Index:
Date: 19 FEB 1846
First Name: ANN
Surname: PEWTNER
Age: 10W
Burial Register: NEWLAND 1813-1846
Place of Abode: COLEFORD
City of Abode: -
Relationship: DAUGHTER
Relationship To: HENRY & ANN

Date: 20 MAY 1835
First Name: ANNE
Surname: PEWTNER
Age: 38
Burial Register: CHRISTCHURCH FOREST OF DEAN 1816-1843
Place of Abode: BERRY HILL

Date: 23 SEP 1819
First Name: ELIZABETH
Surname: PEWTNER
Age: 41
Burial Register: NEWLAND 1813-1846
Place of Abode: REDBROOK

Date: 24 JUL 1864
First Name: ELIZABETH MARY
Surname: PEWTNER
Age: 3
Burial Register: RUARDEAN 1847-1864
Place of Abode: RUARDEAN

Date: 3 APR 1844
First Name: FANNY
Surname: PEWTNER
Age: 3
Burial Register: NEWLAND 1813-1846
Place of Abode: COLEFORD
City of Abode: -
Relationship: DAUGHTER
Relationship To: HENRY & ANN

Date: 6 NOV 1839
First Name: HENRIETTA
Surname: PEWTNER
Age: 14W
Burial Register: CHRISTCHURCH FOREST OF DEAN 1816-1843
Place of Abode: LYDNEY

Date: 28 APR 1842
First Name: MARY ANNE
Surname: PEWTNER
Age: 6
Burial Register: NEWLAND 1813-1846
Place of Abode: COLFORD
City of Abode: -
Relationship: DAUGHTER
Relationship To: HENRY & ANNE

Date: 16 JUN 1826
First Name: HENRY
Surname: PEWTNOR
Age: 39
Burial Register: NEWLAND 1813-1846
Place of Abode: COLFORD

This MI at Christchurch:
310/. Stone slab
In memory of Annie Pewtner wife of Esaias Pewtner/ who died May 16 1856 ?/ aged 38? years.

This is probably Anne who was buried 20 May 1835

From FreeBMD:
Deaths Dec 1856
Pewtner Esaias Chepstow 11a 8

This is almost certainly Esaias living at Tutnalls Road, Lydney in 1851.
And this is posibly his widow:
Deaths Sep 1889
Pewtner Mary Ann 76 Ross 6a 247

Mike

http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
co-ordinates 356259,215839

That woould be about 1 1/2 miles south of the centre of Whitchurch Herefordshire village.

1891 looks like Newham Botton / Ruardean Hill area
William Puchner abt 1855 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Mary B Puchner abt 1856 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Lidie S Puchner abt 1881 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Lucy G Puchner abt 1885 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Susanna Puchner abt 1889 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire

next door may relate
Mary Gagg abt 1836 Huntley, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Gertrude Perbtner abt 1879 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter East Dean Gloucestershire

1901 Newham Bottom ( Lydbrook/Ruardean)

William Pewtner abt 1855 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Mary Pewtner abt 1856 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Arthur Pewtner abt 1894 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Lucy Pewtner abt 1885 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Mary Pewtner abt 1896 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Percy Pewtner abt 1899 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Susan Pewtner abt 1889 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
William Pewtner abt 1892 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire

1861 Ruardean, Street
William Pewtner abt 1815 Whitchurch, Herefordshire, England Head Ruardean Gloucestershire Shoe Maker
Elizabeth Pewtner abt 1826 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ruardean Gloucestershire
Esaras Pewtner abt 1858 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean Gloucestershire
Susanna Wila Pewtner abt 1850 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean Gloucestershire
William Wilar Pewtner abt 1855 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean Gloucestershire

Looking at the image Esaras is Esaias
I wonder if the Wilar is WILCE, not an uncommon name in Ruardean area.

1871 Ruardean Square
William Putvin abt 1837 Whedulworth, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Ruardean Herefordshire Shoe Maker
Eliza Putvin abt 1826 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ruardean Herefordshire
Ezaras Putvin abt 1859 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean Herefordshire
George Putvin abt 1863 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean Herefordshire
William Putvin abt 1855 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean Herefordshire

1881 Ruardean High Street, Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth Pewtur abt 1826 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head
George Pewtur abt 1863 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son

1891
William Crick abt 1837 Horton, Oxfordshire, England Head West Ham Essex
James Charlette Crick abt 1879 Kentish Town, London, England Son West Ham Essex
Margaret Eliza Ann Crick abt 1881 Hoxton, London, England Daughter West Ham Essex
George Wm Pewtner abt 1863 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son-in-law West Ham Essex
Mary Ann <Crick> abt 1866 Carphilly, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Ham Essex

Returning to the WILCE idea ( looks good)

1851 Ruardean
Mary Wilce abt 1793 Walford, Herefordshire, England Head Ruardean Gloucestershire
Isaac Wilce abt 1834 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean Gloucestershire
Jabez Wilce abt 1836 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean Gloucestershire
Elizah Wilce abt 1830 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean Gloucestershire
Ann Wilce abt 1823 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Wilce abt 1826 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean Gloucestershire
Susannah Wilce abt 1850 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean Gloucestershire

Also in 1851 transcribed as FURBER but could be PUETNER

William Furber abt 1818 Whitchurch, Herefordshire, England Head Ganarew Herefordshire
Sarah Furber abt 1821 Whitchurch, Herefordshire, England Wife Ganarew Herefordshire
Edward Furber abt 1845 Whitchurch, Herefordshire, England Son Ganarew Herefordshire
Elizabeth Furber abt 1850 Ganarew, Herefordshire, England Daughter Ganarew Herefordshire
George Furber abt 1847 Whitchurch, Herefordshire, England Son Ganarew Herefordshire

1851 Sparrow Hill nr Christchurch Coleford
Henry Pewdner abt 1813 New Ware, Herefordshire, England Head Newland Gloucestershire Post Master
Ann Pewdner abt 1812 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland Gloucestershire
Ann Pewdner abt 1847 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Pewdner abt 1840 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland Gloucestershire
Henry Pewdner abt 1849 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland Gloucestershire
Jane Pewdner abt 1838 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland Gloucestershire
Martha Pewdner abt 1844 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland Gloucestershire
Mary Pewdner abt 1847 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland Gloucestershire

New Ware is almost certainly New Weir (New Wear occasionally) , which today is near "Symonds Yat" again close to Whitchurch/ Doward, Herefordshire

1861 Railway Inn
Henry Pentner abt 1813 New Wein, Herefordshire, England Head Newland Gloucestershire Coach Prop.
Henry Pentner abt 1849 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland Gloucestershire
Mary Pentner abt 1847 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland Gloucestershire

1871
Henry Pewtener abt 1849 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Boarder Wortley Yorkshire

I have traced my direct line of Pewtners from Newport back to Chepstow, to Monmouth to Whitchurch to Bristol, but other lines of the family seem to have got lost in the Forest of Dean. They appear briefly and then disappear, or in one case reappear 40 years on. I’m not expecting anyone else to be researching them, but perhaps they are in your trees by marriage? If you have any ancestors with the Christian name Esaias, there must be Pewtners about as the name pops up again and again. So if you find any lost Pewtners, I can give them a good home!

* In the Transcripts - so far I have only come across 2 entries, both Burials

Anne on 20th May 1835 of Berry Hill buried Christchurch aged 38, and
Elizabeth Mary on 24th July 1862 of Ruardean, buried Ruardean aged 3.

No idea who these are

* And some Census entries :-

1851
Esaias Pewtner abt 1798 Ross, Herefordshire, Head Lydney Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Pewtner abt 1812 Coleford, Gloucestershire, Wife Lydney Gloucestershire
Anne Pewtner abt 1838 Lydney, Gloucestershire, Daughter Lydney Gloucestershire

Have this family. Esaias christened 3 Sept 1797 in Whitchurch, was agent to trading vessel, his father was Esaias b 1773 Bristol who married Susannah GARDINER on 3 November 1794 in Whitchurch, Herefordshire. Esaias 1797 married Mary Ann CAILAWAY on 28 March 1837 in Bristol. Also had daughter Henrietta b 1839, presume she had died by 1851.

No sign of any of them in 1861 or later.

*Jane Pewtner abt 1831 Bristol Pennitent Bristol St James Gloucestershire

No idea. A Jane b Bristol 1838 turns up in 1861 as a servant in Richmond!

I also found a family transcribed as PEWDNER in Coleford.
William b 1813 New Ware, Herefordshire Head Occup: Post Master
Wife Ann b 1812 Coleford
Children all born Coleford - Jane 1838, Elizabeth 1840, Martha 1844, Ann 1847, Mary 1847 Henry 1849

Also I have an Esaiah Pewtner in Pigot’s Directory for Coleford 1830 who was Schoolmaster at the National School. Can’t identify which he was without more clues.

*1861
William Pewtner abt 1815 Whitchurch, Herefordshire, Head Ruardean Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Pewtner abt 1826 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, Wife Ruardean Gloucestershire
Esaras Pewtner abt 1858 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, Son Ruardean Gloucestershire
Susanna Wila Pewtner abt 1850 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, Daughter Ruardean Gloucestershire
William Wilar Pewtner abt 1855 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, Son Ruardean Gloucestershire

This William might also have been a son of Esaias b 1773. He had two other Williams that I know of, plus 2 Susannahs, so into recycling names as children died. This family doesn’t appear on any other census. What happened to them? Esarus b 1858 a mistranscription for Esaias. What’s with Wila / Wilar? Could this have been wife Elizabeth’s maiden name? Any Wilars out there?

*Harry Pewtner abt 1812 Whitchurch, Herefordshire, Lodger West Dean Gloucestershire

No idea. His occup. is given as Tailor. Another son of Esaias b 1773? . He had a Henry christened on 1 October 1809 in Whitchurch. Or see Henry Pewdner above in 1851 - if this is the same guy, what happened to former career, wife and children?

By 1871 all the above have evaporated. There is an Anna Pewtner b Coleford 1847 working as a domestic servant in Somerset, who could be the Ann Pewdner in 1951
Also a previously unknown John b Bristol who is a Coach Painter in Hereford (and in 1881 a Coach painter in London)

1881 Nothing

1891 ditto

1901 A Pewtner family pops up in East Dean!
Head is William b 1855 Ruardean, a coal hewer below ground, who presumably is the William Wilar Pewtner who was around in 1861, though goodness knows where he has been for the last 40 years. He has a wife Mary b 1856 East Dean and children, Lucy 1885 East Dean, Susan 1889 East Dean, William 1892 East Dean, Arthur 1894 Ruardean, Mary 1896 East Dean and Percy 1899 East Dean

Phew!

Thanks for bearing with me, best wishes

Joss

PS Haven’t mentioned Henrietta b1812, another possible daughter of Esaias b 1773. (Either he was a very busy boy, or had a brother I haven’t traced yet as these possible offspring are getting out of hand). She doesn’t appear on any local census as in 1834 she married a James Hobby in Hampshire and subsequently had at least 7 children, including one called Esaias. More on her soon I hope…