Hi
Thanks for your reply.

I have the marriage cert for Shadrach and Sarah - witnesses were Caroline Davies and Robert Davies (Sarah's name is spelt Davis - no e - and not sure what this implies, if anything)
I have put in a lot of hours to try and find the connection between Caroline, Robert and Sarah - and not won yet!
Shadrach and Sarah were married at Lydbrook Primitive Methodist chapel - yet both lived in Bream. Why go to Lydbrook? There is a Robert and Caroline in Lydbrook associated with the tin works there ...

I had Peter Victor as one of Shadrach's children for many years - Fredrick could a mistake for Shadrach (Shedrick and other various spellings found!)

A lady on another website who says she has Shadrach's journal says there were 6 children - maybe he means 6 surviving children?. I have evidence for John, Rachel, Arthur Shadrach, Evan Neary, William Thomas and Sarah Hannah from the 1871 census. I have the baptism of Peter Victor but can't find any other evidence of him connected with Shadrach and Sarah. I have Rachel on the 1871 census and can't trace her -yet !

Were Peter and Rachel twins and he died in infancy? If so, why is there no record of Rachel's baptism? If Peter is a child, where are the family on 1861 census?

I think I had doubts about Peter Victor because it's not a "family" name.

Any further thought will be most welcome - the search goes on!

Many thanks
Janet