in the 1891 census he is shown as a bakers assistant he was living at elm cottage pilly village . is there any chance I can find out where the bakery was

Hi

If you look at the census image there is a William Portlock age 30 (a Baker) living two doors up from Harry. Whether this is his home or business I cannot tell!

Regards
Chris

i should be more observant well spotted thank you chrisw

You are welcome!

BNA Cheltenham Chronicle – Tuesday 03 July 1883,

William PORTLOCK, a journeyman baker, was summoned for delivering bread without a beam and scales..........Mr JACKSON said he had known Mr BUCKLE, defendant’s master, to be a straightforward, honest man, and believed it to be an omission on his part........

Maybe both William and Harry worked for Mr BUCKLE in Bath Road,

GR 1891 Census, Bath Road, Cheltenham,

Walter BUCKLE, Head, S, 53, Baker, Grocer and Corn Dealer, b. Cheltenham, Bath Road
Maria ASHFORD, None, S, 21, Domestic Servant, b. Gloucester, Berkeley
Phoebe BECKWITH, None, S, 34, Shopwoman, baker, b. Gloucester, Leckhampton

Old Bath Road runs right next to what was once described as Pilley Village (and might still be) in Leckhampton, Cheltenham. Modern Pilley Lane joins Old Bath Road.

thank you for that