Looking for Alice Cooper - Forest of Dean FHT Forum

Hello from Australia,

My great grandmother was born Alice Cooper. In her marriage certificate dated 1876 she said she was aged 22, was a spinster, her father was William Cooper deceased, and she married James Taylor Oliver at Sheffield.

In some later censuses she said she was born at "Forest of Dean" but I haven't been able to find from Ancestry.com or Familysearch.org (or anywhere else really) details of Alice Cooper having been born there or in a Census there.

Would you have any suggestions as to how I might find the missing information about her?

Regards

Glen Oliver

All census information is useful for forum members. Who were the witnesses at their wedding?

I think the 1911 census holds the most Clues and also Alice 'knocked a few years' off her age, as she was a bit older than her husband.

and this must be the answer…..

1861 Census, East Dean - Blakeney Hill

Ann COOPER - Head - Widow - 40 - born Bully ? Gloucester
William - Son - 15 Coal Miner
Richard - 12
Alice - 10
John - Grandson - 3
George KEAR - Lodger, unmarried - 34 - labourer

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And the 1851 census holds more information - East Dean
22 New Road

COOPER

William - 40 Coal Miner, born Glos West Dean (so William COOPER c 1811)
Ann - 30 - born Bulley
Charlotte - 12 (mother's maiden name WILLIAMS - on GlosBDM)
Eliza - 6
William - 5
Richard - 2 *****
Charles COLE - Step-son - 15 - born East Dean

next door, but one household

KEAR

Mary - Widower - 53, born Glos Awre
George - son - unmarried 24 - born East Dean
Thomas - 20
Elizabeth - 15
Emma BROWN - Visitors, 25 - unmarried

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1841 Census, Dean Forest
William COOPER - 30
Ann COOPER - 25
Chas COOPER - 6 named a COLE 1851 census - he was christened it Blakeney in 1835, parents Ann & Robert COLE
Charlotte COOPER - 1

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Fod Records: Marriage at Awre - 31 December 1833

Robert COLE - married Ann WILLIAMS - no parents information given

witnesses: William WILLIAMS and Charles FENNELL

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Robert COLE was buried at Awre - 29 April 1835 - age 26
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Fod Records:

Baptism at Blakeney - 11 May 1851

Alice COOPER
parents: William (labourer) and Ann -
residence: Pitching Green

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Fod Records: Burial at Awre
4 February 1855

William Cooper, age 45, Forest of Dean (c1810)
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1911 census

55 Doncaster & Sensley? Road

OLIVER

James - 58 - married -
Alice - 57 - born Blakeney
Rosa OLIVER - 21 -
George KEAR - step-father - 88 Widower - born Blakeney, Gloucestershire

1881 Census, Gringley, Nottinghamshire

James Taylor OLIVER - 28
Alice OLIVER - 26 - born Gloucester Forest of Dean (consistant with c1855 on all census returns)
James Wm - 3 - born Sheffield
Wilfred - 1 - born Rotherham

On the 1901 census, Yorkshire Alice says she was born in Blakeney. and they have a lodger, George KEAR, unmarried age 67 also from Blakeney, Glos

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Try using this website for any clues…

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/

There is an Alice COOPER 1851 - mother's maiden name WILLIAMS and a marriage of a William COOPER to Ann WILLIAMS - Glos. St Nicholas 1838

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??? On Ancestry - England Select Marriages we have

William Cooper aged 27 (c1811) - married Ann COALE - 22 October 1838 at Saint Nicholas, Gloucester….. On the 1851 census, William COOPER and Ann have a step-son Charles COLE age 15 - born East Dean

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William COOPER was born c1810/1811 born West Dean

William COOPER c1810/1811

Possible baptism at Blakeney Chapel

13 October 1811

William COOPER

parents William & Sarah (nee THACKWELL, Spinster)

Memoranda: born 23 September

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and siblings: Sarah 1814, Joseph 1822, Elizabeth 1826

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Fod Records

Marriage at Lydney - 3 December 1810

William COOPER, Batchelor of Awre

married

Sarah SAFEWELL of this Parish

by banns

witnesses: Robert and Sarah HYETT

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??? at Westbury on Severn - 11 March 1792

Sarah THACKWELL, parents, Thomas & Sarah

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Marriage at Lydney 18 December 1826

John COLES (Widower) of this Parish

married

Mary Anne ATTEWEILL Spinster of this Parish

witnesses: Richard EVANS , Hannah CROM (?) Thomas

Wow! I knew I was a novice but you have confirmed it. This is great information for me - it will take me a while to assimilate it all. Thank you for spending your time for me.

? 1871 Wales Census, Glamorgan, St Mary
28 Bute Street
Bute Arms

Alice COOPER - 19, General Domestic Servant, born Glos Vina Hill

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On the 1851 census, the COOPER family are in District 5b - New Road - and looking at Page 1, the Enumerator's route - this includes Viney Hill, so this is probably your Alice.

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Also ? On the 1861 census, there is a Grandson, John - age 3 ???? do question whether this is George KEAR and Ann COOPER's offspring.

Trying to find George KEAR/Ann COOPER + siblings -on the 1871 and 1881 census etc

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Charles COLE - son of Ann and Robert COLE - married at Cinderford St John - 28 September 1855

aged 21, Bachelor, Bradley Hill, father: Robert COLE, labourer

Elizabeth JAMES - age 22, Spinster, of Dean's hill, father: Adam JAMES, Woodcutter

witnesses: James PRICE and Caroline HALE.

Charles and his family are on the 1851 census for Blakeney Hill, East Dean

COLE

Charles - 25 - Coal Miner, born Blakeney, Awre
Elizabeth - 28
Robert - 8 (Glosbdm, mother's maiden name JAMES)
Mary - 4
Fanny - 2

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