( still looking in 1921 census)

Edward died on the Somme in 1917 leaving his wife Gertrude Ada Bradley (1890-1974) and four (4) children:
Edward William Kilby (1910-1990)
Annie Kilby (1911-?)
Ronald Ivor Kilby (1914-1966)
Iris May Kilby (1916-1986)

Gertrude Ada Kilby (nee Bradley) married William Simmons in the 4th quarter of 1921 at Pontypridd district.

Does anyone know where Gertrude and the children were at the time of the 1921 census?

Thanks
Ian Watkins
watkinsi@ozonline.com.au

There is a property named Avondale next door to the Nags Head Inn on Plump Hill/Mitcheldean in the 1939 data set. https://www.gloucestershirepubs.co.uk/pubs/nags-head-plump-hill-nr-mitcheldean/

in 1901 Joseph MERRY lives at The Firs on Plump Hill, not too far away from the Nags Head Inn ( no Avondale listed, to be fair few properties are named)

in 1911 Frank MERRY is living at the Firs

today that address is
THE FIRS
PLUMP HILL
MITCHELDEAN
GLOUCESTERSHIRE
UNITED KINGDOM
GL17 0ET

1939 School Rd Badsey
Thomas R Roberts 02 Mar 1893 Male Incapacitated Married
Millicent Roberts 20 Dec 1892 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Joyce A Burford (Roberts) 29 Oct 1930 Female At School Single

Births Dec 1930 (>99%)
Roberts Joyce A Keyte Evesham 6c 219

Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Roberts Iris M Keyte Evesham 6c 387

1921 Badsey
Roberts Thomas 1893
Roberts Millicent 1894
Roberts Iris 1920
Trayte Alfred 1895 ( probably Keyte)

Marriages Mar 1919 (>99%)
KEYTE Millicent Roberts Evesham 6c 257
Roberts Thomas R Keyte Evesham 6c 257

1911 Scowles
John Robert Head Married Male 51 1860 Stone dresser Gloucestershire West Dean
Mary Ada Robert Head Married Female 46 1865 - Gloucestershire Coleford
Sidney George Robert Son Single Male 20 1891 Stone dresser Gloucestershire Coleford
Walter Robert Son Single Male 19 1892 Pit sinker Gloucestershire Coleford
Thomas Robert Son Single Male 17 1894 Tin worker at rolls Gloucestershire Coleford
Mary Ada Robert Daughter Single Female 14 1897 - Gloucestershire Coleford
Florrie George Robert Daughter - Female 10 1901 School Gloucestershire Coleford
Lenard George Robert Son - Male 8 1903 School Gloucestershire Coleford
Ernest Ivor Robert Son - Male 5 1906 School Gloucestershire Coleford

1901 Scowles
John Roberts Head Married Male 41 1860 Coal hewer Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Mary Ada Roberts Wife Married Female 36 1865 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England
William John Roberts Son Single Male 16 1885 Shoemaker Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Fredrick Arthur Roberts Son Single Male 14 1887 Coal hewer Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Albert Henry Roberts Son Single Male 12 1889 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Sidney Charles Roberts Son Single Male 10 1891 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Walter Benjamin Roberts Son Single Male 8 1893 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Richard Thomas Roberts Son Single Male 7 1894 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Mary Ada Roberts Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Florence Lillie Roberts Daughter Single Female 0 1901 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England

Year: 1894
Month: Aug
Day: 19
Parents_Surname: ROBERTS
Child_Forenames: Richard Tom
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Mary Ada
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Scowles
Occupation: Quarryman
Officiating_Minister: A W Cornwall
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 34
Parish_Chapel: Coleford

1891 Scowles Rd
John Roberts Head Married Male 31 1860 Coal miner Gloucestershire, England
Ada Roberts Wife Married Female 26 1865 - Scowles, Gloucestershire, England
William Roberts Son - Male 6 1885 - Scowles, Gloucestershire, England
Frederick Roberts Son - Male 4 1887 - Scowles, Gloucestershire, England
Herbert Roberts Son - Male 2 1889 - Scowles, Gloucestershire, England
Sydney Roberts Son - Male 0 1891 - Scowles, Gloucestershire, England

Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
Roberts John Monmouth 11a 79
Roberts Mary Ada Monmouth 11a 79

This appears to be father John
1881 Gortsy Knoll (south of Coleford, East of Scowles)
Daniel Roberts Head Married Male 48 1833 (stone) quarry man West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Selina Roberts Wife Married Female 47 1834 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
John Roberts Son Single Male 21 1860 (stone) quarryman West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Adah Roberts Daughter Single Female 17 1864 Servant out of place West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Benjamin Roberts Son Single Male 15 1866 Prentice (stone) quarryman West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Noah Roberts Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar West Dean, Gloucestershire, England

1871 Coalway Lane End
Daniel Roberts Head - Male 38 1833 Stone cutter Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Selina Roberts Wife - Female 37 1834 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England
John Roberts Son - Male 11 1860 Stone cutter West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Emma Roberts Daughter - Female 8 1863 Scholar West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Ada Roberts Daughter - Female 7 1864 Scholar West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Benjamin Roberts Son - Male 5 1866 Scholar West Dean, Gloucestershire, England

1861 Coalway Lane End
Daniel Roberts Head Married Male 28 1833 Stone quarryman Gloucestershire, England
Selina Roberts Wife Married Female 27 1834 - Gloucestershire, England
John Roberts Son - Male 1 1860 - Gloucestershire, England
Mary Davis Lodger Widow Female 77 1784 - Gloucestershire, England

Marriages Jun 1856 (>99%)
DAVIS Selina Monmouth 11a 37
ROBERTS Daniel Monmouth 11a 37

My grandfather was Richard thomas Roberts born 1893/4 known as "Tom"

I know he was born and lived in the scowles when he was child.

Tom married my grandmother "Millicent Gould" from Cow Honeybourne worcestershire

Lived in Badsey nr evesham worcestershire

Passed away aged 48/49yrs old in 1941 and buried in Badsey cemetery with his wife "millicent" aged 62 in 1953
They had two daughters

Iris May Roberts married Egbert Colley. No children

Joyce Aldyth Roberts married Eric Henry Burford. Had 3 children

Martin Burford
Diane Burford
Michael Burford

Unfortunately, even though i have names from ancestery i know nothing really about the Roberts family.

I would be grateful if anyone has any past or present information about the
Roberts family.

1901 Mill Hill Bream
John Elloway Head Married Male 56 1845 Blacksmith Alvington, Gloucestershire, England
Hannah Elloway Wife Married Female 54 1847 - Gloucestershire, England
Frederick Elloway Son Single Male 26 1875 Coal hewer Bream, Gloucestershire, England
William H Elloway Son Single Male 23 1878 Coal hewer Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Alma Elloway Daughter Single Female 28 1873 Domestic Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Matilda Elloway Daughter - Female 9 1892 - Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Harriett James Mother-in-law Widow Female 83 1818 - Blakeney, Gloucestershire, England
Elsie Elloway Grand daughter - Female 12 1889 Scholar Bream, Gloucestershire, England

Deaths Dec 1975 (>99%)
WILLIAMS ELSIE ANNE 30MR1888 ROSS 29 672

Births Dec 1919 (>99%)
Williams Alfred J Ellaway Monmouth 11a 32

1921Nr Church, Bream, Newland, Gloucestershire
Head Frederick James Williams Circa 1892
Wife Elsie Annie Williams Circa 1889
Son Arthur Edward Williams Circa 1909
Son John William Williams Circa 1913
Daughter Elsie Annie Williams Circa 1916
Son Alfred James Williams Circa 1920

1939 Rosemene, Lower Meone, Brockweir
Frederick J Williams 06 Jun 1892 Male General Labourer Married
Elsie A Williams (Davies) 15 Oct ? Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Wyndham F Williams 09 Mar 1921 Male Van Driver Of Grocery And General Store Single
The record for this person is officially closed. Bernard ?
The record for this person is officially closed. Edith ?

Deaths Mar 1974 (>99%)
Williams Alfred James 25SE1919 Ross 9a 247

Year: 1844
Month: Oct
Day: 19
Grooms_Surname: RUCK
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age: Full Age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Miner
Grooms_Residence: Township of East Dean
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Ruck
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Miner
Brides_Surname: NIBLETT
Brides_Forenames: Hannah
Brides_Age: Full Age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Township of East Dean
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Niblett
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Mark of Thomas Cox
Witness_2: Mark of Jane Cox
Other_Witnesses: William Hale
Officiating_Minister: William Crawley
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P145 IN 1/11
Page_Number: 48
Parish_Chapel: Flaxley

1851 Watery Lane End, Westbury on Severn
John Rock Head Married Male 28 1823 Coal miner East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Hannah Rock Wife Married Female 29 1822 - Westbury, Gloucestershire, England
Timothy Rock Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Westbury, Gloucestershire, England
Jane Rock Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Westbury, Gloucestershire, England
James Rock Son - Male 4 1847 Scholar East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Rock Son - Male 2 1849 Scholar East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Maria Rock Daughter - Female 0 1851 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England

1861 Huntly East dean
John Ruck Head Married Male 38 1823 Coal... Gloucestershire, England
Ann Ruck Wife - Female 41 1820 - Gloucestershire, England
Jane Ruck Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1845 - Gloucestershire, England
James Ruck Son - Male 15 1846 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Ruck Son - Male 12 1849 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Miah Ruck Daughter - Female 10 1851 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
John Ruck Son - Male 7 1854 - Flaxley, Gloucestershire, England
George Ruck Son - Male 5 1856 - Flaxley, Gloucestershire, England
Eliza Ruck Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Flaxley, Gloucestershire, England

The 1871 James Ruck who married Frances Jones is my 3x Great Granduncle. His parents were John Ruck and Susannah Clifton. My 4x Great Grandparents. His sister Letitia married Edmund Fletcher, my 3x Great Grandparents. Harriet is their daughter.

James Ruck who married Harriet Worgan (nee Fetcher) parents I believe were John Ruck & Hannah Niblett.
Hannah Fetcher is my 2x Great Grandaunt. I have not found this James in 1871.

Hope this makes sense.

Hannah C is not shown as step daughter to head of household in the 81/91 census data

or with "father" James in 1871

1871 Pillowell
James Ruck Head - Male 35 1836 Coal miner West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Frances Ruck Wife - Female 27 1844 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Mary Ann Ruck Daughter - Female 6 1865 Scholar West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
George Ruck Son - Male 3 1868 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Jim Ruck Son - Male 0 1871 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England

Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Register Entry
RUCK James JONES Frances 1864 2 61

an avenue that might require further investigation is

Births Mar 1868 (>99%)
James Hannah Cecilia Chepstow 11a 17

who is missing in 1881/91 censuses - but how a Wharf workers daughter from Lydney morphs into Hannah C Ruck is beyond me at the momnet

She appears in the 1881/1891 census records as the daughter of Harriet (nee Fletcher) and James Ruck.

My problem is I cannot find her birth or any records after 1891.

I don't believe she is Harriets daughter as she doesn't appear in the 1871 census. Also, Harriet was married to George Worgan at this time and he died in 1875.

I do not know if James was married before as I cannot find him in the 1871 census records, and I can only see the civil registration for his marriage to Harriet

See previous threads: https://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=31625

Many thanks

Alfred was lost to the family in the Forest, probably
because he worked on the railway out of Swindon.