Cinderford Centenarian Elizabeth SMITH, 1865-1966 (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Tuesday, February 12, 2013, 23:27 (4296 days ago) @ Jefff

Sadly it appears that Mrs Elizabeth Susan Smith, who celebrated her 100th Birthday in late 1965, didn't live to see 101. I think this may be her, from FreeBMD:

Surname Given Name Age District Volume Page Transcriber
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Deaths Jun 1966
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SMITH ELIZABETH S. 100 GLOUCESTER R 7B 47_ jonno

I cannot any more details of her Burial within this site's PRs, or GlosBMD.

The Scrapbook states Elizabeth's husband was son of Thomas Smith (Engineer at Lightmoor Colliery), and that they had a son Fred who was also alive and married in 1965.

The family are rather elusive wrt this site's PRs, but searching GlosBMD I think this is possibly her Marriage:

Marriage Details
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
SMITH Frederick Thomas JAMES Elizabeth Susannah Forest of Dean Monmouth Register Office 1897 20 12

And this is their son Fred:

Birth Details
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
SMITH Frederick Thomas James SMITH SMITH JAMES 1899 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, East Dean 7 218

This is the most likely Marriage Record I can find for son Fred (altho the photo in the Scrapbook suggests his wife maybe younger, so ?):

Marriage Details
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
SMITH Frederick Thomas GRIFFITHS Beatrice Edith Forest of Dean Westbury-on-Severn (FoD) Register Office 1920 18 105

The scrapbook states Elizabeth's actual birthday was December 27th 1865;

GlosBMD
Birth Details
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
JAMES Elizabeth Susanna JAMES JAMES LEWIS 1865 Forest of Dean Chepstow, Lydney 11 209

FoD PRs

Record_ID: 146581
Entry_Number: 97
Year: 1868
Month: Jan
Day: 25
Parents_Surname: JAMES
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth Susanna
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Mary Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Parkend
Occupation: Carpenter
Officiating_Minister: Jno. Josh Elsworth Incumbent
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born 27 Dec 1865
Notes:
Register_Reference: P245 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 13
Parish_Chapel: Parkend
Soundex: J520

The Scrapbook states she was one of 8 children, altho from this site's PRs it's possible there were more..?..

1855 JAMES Elizabeth, Thomas & Mary Ann, Pillowell, Collier, Parkend
1857 JAMES Thomas, Thomas & Mary Ann, Yorkley, Collier, Parkend
1860 JAMES Henry, Thomas & Mary Ann, Yorkley Slade, Collier, Parkend
1862 JAMES Margaret Sarah, Thomas & Mary Ann, Gloucester, Carpenter, Lydney
1867 JAMES Lucy, Thomas & Mary Ann, Yorkley Slade West Dean, Collier, FoD Bible Christian
1868 JAMES Elizabeth Susanna, Thomas & Mary Ann, Parkend, Carpenter, Parkend
1869 JAMES James Benjamin, Thomas & Mary Ann, Yorkley, Carpenter, Lydney
1869 JAMES Sarah, Thomas & Mary Ann, Yorkley, Carpenter, Lydney
1869 JAMES Albert, Thomas & Mary Ann, West Dean, Collier, FoD Bible Christian
1872 JAMES Sidney Frank, Thomas & Mary Ann, West Dean, Collier, FoD Bible Christian
1879 JAMES Agnes Annie, Thomas & Mary Ann, Yorkly Slade, Collier, FoD Bible Christian

I believe this is the correct Marriage Record, from GlosBMD & FreeBMD:

Marriage Details
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
JAMES Thomas JAMES Mary Ann Forest of Dean Newland All Saints 1854 2 120
(December Qtr according to FreeBMD)

Unsure as to why the bride's name differs slightly here:

Record_ID: 12965
Entry_Number: 120
Year: 1854
Month: Nov
Day: 25
Grooms_Surname: JAMES
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age: 24
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Yorkley
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: James
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: JAMES
Brides_Forenames: Ann
Brides_Age: 20
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Yorkley
Brides_Fathers_Surname: James
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Charcoal Curer[?]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He marks; she signs
Witness_1: C. Stockham
Witness_2: Mark of Sarah Morse
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: John Hawksley Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/13
Page_Number: 60
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex_Groom: J520
Soundex_Bride: J520

Possible Fathers (not a rare name!)
??

Record_ID: 37232
Entry_Number: 866
Year: 1830
Month: Feb
Day: 21
Parents_Surname: JAMES
Child_Forenames: Thomas
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Hannah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Allaston - Parish of Lydney
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: H.C.H.Hawkins Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Son of
Notes:
Register_Reference: PFC 209 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 109
Parish_Chapel: Lydney
Soundex: J520

Record_ID: 133867
Entry_Number: 930
Year: 1830
Month: May
Day: 9
Parents_Surname: JAMES
Child_Forenames: Thomas
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Dinah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Tithing of Etloe
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: J[acob] George Wrench
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P50 IN1/1
Page_Number: 117
Parish_Chapel: Blakeney
Soundex: J520

1841 Census may help clarify .. similarly cannot find definite Baptism for Mary Ann ??

Despite Slowhands' help (thanks!) I cannot find a definite Burial Record locally for Elizabeth's husband Frederick Smith born abt 1864, who sadly died early, between 1901 & 1911, aged abt 37-47.