WOODWARD, Ernest John, Emily, Walford parish. (General)
Thanks to Mike we have
Miss Emily Margaret Effie Adams ,..... only daughter of Mrs. and the late Mr. B. K. Adams, of Prestatyn, North Wales, was married ...... to Mr. Ernest John Woodward, only son of the Rev. and Mrs. K. B. Woodward, also of Prestatyn. The bridegroom’s father was ..... minister at the Centenary Methodist Church, Boston.
Hi Deeds, welcome to the forum. Am I right thinking this couple seems to have travelled around the UK quite a lot, was this because Ernest John followed his father and became a Church Minister, perhaps including Castle Frome Herefordshire ?
From this site we have their Burial Records, as you know;
Record_ID: 1000287
Entry_Number: 605
Year: 1961
Month: Oct
Day: 13
Surname: WOODWARD
Forenames: Emily Margaret Effie
Residence: The Rectory Castle Frome Herefordshire
Age_at_death: 55
Officiating_Minister: J.W.J. Thackwell Vicar of Kempley with Oxenhall Gloucestershire
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_No: 76
Parish_Chapel: Walford
Soundex: W363
So Emily was born abt 1906 wrt her Burial record, was Ernest working here then ?.
Whereas Ernest's death was in Balham, S.London, I wonder why there, family perhaps ?;
Record_ID: 1000356
Entry_Number: 674
Year: 1971
Month: May
Day: 26
Surname: WOODWARD
Forenames: Ernest John
Residence: 25 Melwood Road Balham
Age_at_death: 70
Officiating_Minister: J.G. Owen Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_No: 85
Parish_Chapel: Walford
Soundex: W363
So Ernest was born abt 1901 wrt his Burial record, possibly in London ?.
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Using the excellent FreeBMD site can easily search Emily (with her many names)
FreeBMD gives her birth record;
Surname Given Name District Volume Page
Births Mar 1906
Adams Emily Margaret E. Pontefract 9c 130
from http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
So birth was registered in the "March" Quarter (ie Jan,Feb or March) of 1906, in the Pontefract Registration District, in the West Riding of Yorkshire;
see http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/pontefract.html
Newspaper refers to her father as "the late Mr. B. K. Adams, of Prestatyn, North Wales"
Using FreeBMD to list all "Adams" marriages between say 1870 and 1904, then visually scanning thro the list looking for a male with initials "B.K.", gave this possible choice, indeed the only one in the UK (on this site), family seem to be mobile so don't worry about the location for now;
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1901 (>99%)
ADAMS Bertram Keith Prestwich 8d 505
Griffiths Agnes Prestwich 8d 505
Hadfield Charles Prestwich 8d 505
WILLIAMSON Victoria Ethel Prestwich 8d 505
Prestwich district was in the North of Manchester, Lancashire, so across the Pennines from the West Riding, and not far from Prestatyn either;
See http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/prestwich.html
Searching FreeBMD's "births" this time, gave his full name and birthdate, which seems a good match. Again this is the only record on the database for this name, the great bonus of searching with second names/initials too !;
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Births Dec 1876 (>99%)
Adams Bertram Keith Poplar 1c 648
Poplar district is in the East End of London, just across the Thames from Balham, our Ernest's final home, maybe plausible.
I cannot find a Death Record for Bertram, perhaps FreeBMD lacks this area's data ?
Now try (belatedly!) searching them on the last available Census, 1911, from the excellent free-to-access "LDS" aka Familysearch website, https://familysearch.org/search/
which gives;
Name Emily Margaret Effie Adams
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Cheshire
Parish Wilmslow
Sub-District Wilmslow
Registration District Bucklow
Gender Female
Age 5
Birthplace Johns Pontefract, Yorkshire
Record Type Household
Familysearch is free, but a bit cumbersome, have to search family members individually by using the "Adams" surname and "Wilmslow Cheshire" residence, so this may not be their complete household;
Name Stephen Keith Williamson Adams
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Cheshire
Parish Wilmslow
Sub-District Wilmslow
Registration District Bucklow
Gender Male
Age 6
Birthplace Johns Pontefract, Yorkshire
Record Type Household
Name Frank Kingsley Clayton Adams
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Cheshire
Parish Wilmslow
Sub-District Wilmslow
Registration District Bucklow
Gender Male
Age 1
Birthplace Johns Carleton Ph, Yorkshire
Record Type Household
Looks like Emily's brothers.
Name Bertram Keith Adams
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Cheshire
Parish Wilmslow
Sub-District Wilmslow
Registration District Bucklow
Gender Male
Age 34
Birthplace London Bow, London
Record Type Household
So Emily's father, Mr B.K. Adams, was born in Bow, East London abt 1877; as per the earlier records.
Name Victoria Ethel Adams
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Cheshire
Parish Wilmslow
Sub-District Wilmslow
Registration District Bucklow
Gender Female
Age 32
Birthplace Manchester Chestham, Lancashire
Record Type Household
From which can see she was Victoria Ethel WILLIAMSON wrt the Marriage Record above.
So born "Chestham", Manchester abt 1879. I think this should read Cheetham, in central Manchester.
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Searching Ernest John Woodward born abt 1901;
Births Dec 1897
Woodward Ernest John Witney 3a 913
Births Mar 1901
Woodward Ernest John Paddington 1a 33
Births Jun 1901
WOODWARD Ernest John Cannock 6b 545
Births Dec 1902
WOODWARD Ernest John Burton 6b 419
So he COULD have been born in Paddington, West London, near the GWR terminus etc, and not far from his final home, Balham.
???
Searching the 1911 Census using Familysearch gives quite a few near-matches, but only Ernest NOT Ernest John. None of their fathers have initials "K.B." as per the newspaper article.
???
Sorry, try again tomorrow !
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