Joseph MANNS (General)

by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, March 09, 2008, 21:07 (6111 days ago) @ buffylewis1

any ideas as to who josephs parents were

thats what I'm looking for - or at least a clue that might lead to him in 1871 or them in 1861 /71

Perhaps him being across the River in the Reformatory school is a clue - certainly to a punishment..

my guess at the moment is that he may have been born to a single mother or one who becomes widowed by 1871. As a result he perhaps is mis recorded with another family. Occasionaly you find a clue in a later census that leads back to the family - like Blanch BAILEY (widow) Sis in law in 1901 - I suspected she was a SCRIVENS but she may be a MANNS relative. so just to be sure :-

the only "hit" so far from Brockweir ?
1891
Blanch Scrivens abt 1873 Blackweie, Monmouthshire, Wales Servant Roath, Glamorgan

who on hindsight is probably :-

Year: 1873
Month: Apr
Day: 2
Parents Surname: SCRIVENS
Child Forenames: Margaret Blanch
Father's Forenames: George
Mother's Forenames: Mary
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: S Briavels Common
Occupation: Woodcutter
Officiating Minister: W[illia]m Taprell Allen Vicar
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda: d[aughter] of
Notes:
Register Reference: P278 IN 1/7
Page No: 36
Parish_Chapel: St Briavels

marriage

Name: William Henry Bailey
Name: Margaret Blanch Scriven
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Merthyr Tydfil
County: Breconshire, Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 921

Name: William Henry Bailey
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 31
District: Pontypridd
County: Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 312

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