Becoming a census enumerator (HAYES, HODGES, DREW) (General)
by unknown, Saturday, April 12, 2008, 11:40 (6078 days ago)
Does anyone know how people went about becoming a census enumerator? I have found several family members (HAYES father and son in 1871, HODGES father in 1861 and son in 1871 and DREW probably a woman in 1871) who were enumerators, including one former gaolbird! I cannot imagine that these were particularly well-off people, therefore probably not of much status. What were the qualifications? Or were there none, bar literacy? I've scoured around for information, but have found none. Any ideas?
Regards,
Sian.
Requirements of a Census Enumerator
by ChrisW , Saturday, April 12, 2008, 12:33 (6078 days ago) @ unknown
Taken from www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/famhist/genealgy/census.htm - 17k -
Some study has been done on identifying the census enumerators as they were obviously key players- the Census Office had a clear picture of what constituted a suitable candidate:
The enumerator, in order to fulfil his duties properly, must be
a person of intelligence and activity; he must read and write well, and have some Knowledge of arithmetic: he must not be infirm or of such weak health as may render him unable to undergo the requisite exertion: he should not be younger than eighteen years of age, nor older than sixty-five: he must be temperate, orderly and respectable, and be such a person as is likely to conduct himself with strict propriety, and to deserve the good-will of the inhabitants of his district. He should also I be well acquainted with the district in which he will be required to act and it will be an additional recommendation if, his occupations have been in any degree of similar kind.
taken from Mills and Schurer
Whilst from Scotlands People www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?r=554&1262 - 17k -
"Census enumerators were usually schoolmasters, who were deemed best equipped for the task".
From British-Genealogy.com www.british-genealogy.com/resources/census/index.htm - 17k
"It is a common myth that a census enumerator knocked on doors and asked who was present, and then wrote down the details, often mis-hearing, or mis-spelling. No. Sure, there may have been isolated examples of that having been done, but this is very rare!
During the week following census night, the enumerator visited all of the houses, and collected the forms. (The Schedules), and then he collated them, and then wrote them up into his enumerator's book, in schedule number order. The enumerator may have found it difficult to interpret the handwriting on the schedule, and he may have mis-transcribed some details".
From Central Statistics Office Ireland 2006 Census www.cso.ie/census/main_duties_enum.htm - 25k
Enumerators are responsible for the delivery and collection of the census forms in local areas. They will be employed for a period of 8-10 weeks between March-May 2006 on a part-time basis. The work will be conducted mainly in the evenings and weekends. The work involves direct contact with the public. It requires tact, consideration and patience to win the confidence and co-operation of householders. The work may require a considerable amount of walking and/or climbing of stairs. The area assigned to each Enumerator is known as an EA (Enumeration Area). It will usually comprise about 350 households.
Requirements of a Census Enumerator
by Barbara Lloyd , Sunday, April 13, 2008, 08:38 (6077 days ago) @ ChrisW
Thomas Lloyd born 1841 in Crickhowell Brecknok married Harriet Dawes of Long Hope. Thomas & Harriet moved to Gloucester then Cheltenham.
Thomas was the Relieving Officer for Cheltenham living in the Leckhampton area
of the town. Thomas was one of the many enumerators for the 1881 Cenus Would his occupation have made him a suitable applicant for the extra work?
Thomas & Harriet were my Husbands 2 x Great Grandparents.
Barbara Lloyd
Requirements of a Census Enumerator
by ChrisW , Sunday, April 13, 2008, 09:14 (6077 days ago) @ Barbara Lloyd
Relieving Officers - From
www.a-day-in-the-life.powys.org.uk/eng/social/es_relieving.php - 6k
Relieving officers were employed to receive applications for relief, and make payments when these had been approved by the Board. They also issued orders to admit people to workhouses.
Eminently suitable I would have thought. He had the clerical experience, probably knew the area well and was used to dealing with all sorts of people!
Regards
Chris
Requirements of a Census Enumerator
by unknown, Monday, April 14, 2008, 03:52 (6076 days ago) @ ChrisW
This, if anything, increases my puzzlement. It is much what one would expect in the way of requirements, but I can't square it with what I know of my gg-grandfather. Arthur James Hayes appeared in the Forest in 1838, unemployed; we know he was literate as he signed his marriage cert. (married the youngest daughter of the "Poetess of the Forest" Catherine Drew); he worked in Cinderford Iron Works in fairly lowly capacities (engine man, journeyman refiner, labourer and finally watchman); in 1852 he was twice imprisoned for contempt of court which seems to been conected to non-appearance at court for a debt hearing. He doesn't seem to fit the bill very well! Or would the requirements perhaps have had to be modified to get enough people in areas of high illiteracy?
Sian.
Requirements of a Census Enumerator
by ChrisW , Monday, April 14, 2008, 04:05 (6076 days ago) @ unknown
Hi Sian
You could be right. On the other hand the offences took place nearly twenty years before he worked on the Census. He may not have had to declare it, or he may have "forgotten"! You'll probably never know....
Cheers
Chris
Requirements of a Census Enumerator
by unknown, Monday, April 14, 2008, 04:25 (6076 days ago) @ ChrisW
Hi Chris,
You're right, of course: 20 years is a tidy while and he may well have lived a "blameless" life after that. Mind you, by 1881 he'd gone from the Forest, leaving his wife to be a "widow" for at least 9 years before he actually died! You're probably also right that we'll never know what really happened. Thank you for all the information.
Regards,
Sian.
Becoming a census enumerator (HAYES, HODGES, DREW)
by Jerry Weber, Tuesday, April 15, 2008, 20:47 (6074 days ago) @ unknown
I hve no idea how they were recruited in the past. In more recent times, enumerators are recruited through local authority staff offering to do the work but on a seperate contract. A friend of mine took part in the 1991 and 2001 Census and in the last one she was a superviser. The work can be quite difficult; going to areas where there may be hostility or trying to seek out and persuade rough sleepers to take part.
Best wishes
Jerry
Becoming a census enumerator 1860's
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, October 06, 2008, 22:17 (5900 days ago) @ unknown
Census background
The census returns for 1841 were the first to be kept and, as far as the general public is concerned, the information is released by the Public Record Office after a hundred years. For example, the public were given access to the 1891 census returns on 1 January 1992.
The country was sub divided in to districts etc and small areas that the Enumerator could cover in a day, on foot I suspect.
The census was usually taken at the end of March/ beginning of April. Enumeration forms were distributed to all households a couple of days before census night and the complete forms were collected the next day. The 'Enumerators' also wrote down the details for the illiterate and tried to check that the entries were correct.
Unfortunately the Victorian censuses were undertaken at a time when up to half the adult population were illiterate or semi-illiterate. Many householders would, therefore, have found it difficult to read and interpret the instructions, and this would have led them to give inaccurate and incomplete information. moreover, it seems likely that, because of poor spelling and poor presentation, enumerators would have found it difficult to read some of their census schedules. This, in turn, would have led to transcription errors in the Census Enumerators Books (CEB's)
All responses were to reflect the individual's status as that night. People who were travelling or living abroad were enumerated at the location where they spent the night on census night. Other special "groups" of people included the inmates of institutions, the crews of vessels afloat, the army, itinerants and travellers, and night workers.
All of the details from the individual forms were later sorted and copied into CEBs, which are are the records that survive, these have been filmed, and are available on various CD's and via Ancestry.
So what about the Enumerators ?
Its clear then that the Enumerator skills needed would include being able to read and write, able bodied and I suspect possess common sense and a degree of diplomacy. Schoolmasters, Public officials, Clergy would be obvious candidates.
I think that the early Enumerators were employed by the Overseers of the Poor - so being known or connected with what was local government would, I suspect, help
Just as today there must have been great suspicion of "the Government" gathering information - what was it going to do with it - raise taxes, relocate people ??
This also was an age without computers and instant access to databases etc, so it was easy to move a short distance and change your identity in an attempt to purge your past - be it crime or in some cases a spouse (!)
100 + years on this just adds to the fun of tracking back our ancestors.
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Becoming a census enumerator 1860's
by unknown, Wednesday, April 16, 2008, 03:51 (6074 days ago) @ slowhands
Thank you Slowhands! The suggestion of recruitment through the Overseers of the Poor might just be the connection as John Drew, one of A.J.Hayes' brothers-in-law was a collector of Poor Relief in 1861. Perhaps that might explain the apparently unlikely choices of the Hayes father and son. The Hodges father and son are probably less surprising as the father was a successful grocer and must have been fairly well-known locally.
This may be the closest I can get to what really happened.
Thanks,
Sian.
Overseers and the census
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, April 16, 2008, 04:40 (6074 days ago) @ unknown
http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Census
Census and Population Returns 1801 - 1831
The Overseers of the Poor and the parish clergy compiled the early census returns from 1801 to 1831 in each parish. Overseers sometimes compiled lists of householders to assist them in head counting and providing the statistical answers required by the census legislation. Some of this information was kept in a few parishes to help with the administration of the poor law and this unofficial information found its way into parish chests and poor law union records.
Then post 1837 ....
The 1841 census was different from the previous censuses in two important respects. Firstly, the administration passed into the hands of the Registrar General and the Superintendant Registrars, who were responsible for the registration of births, marriages and deaths. Many recent reforms, including the 1836 General Registration Act, which had culminated in the introduction of civil registration had resulted in a new layer of central and local government.
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Overseers and the census
by unknown, Sunday, April 20, 2008, 10:33 (6070 days ago) @ slowhands
Ah well. Nice idea while it lasted! I suppose I'll just have to resign myself to the fact that I'll never know.
...Never been very good at doing that!
Sian.