thanks,yes that does seem strange,especially because if the child was baptised 30/7/1820 then it was most probaly born before that date.i am sure this is right because the 1841 census gives moses,ann,edward21,john15 and moses12 living at pool way lane this i am sure is my family but i am stuck after moses b 1799 i know his father was moses(again)and ann hamton but cant work beyond that as there is more than 1 birth for this one born around1772.any ideas ???