William Brain/Beata Beddis children

William Brain dob 1778??? married Beata Beddis on 1 Jan 1807 Flaxley (marriage record obtained from this site).I have no idea who his father was.
Just noticed that the marriage record to Beata Beddis shows him to be a widower. Has anyone any information as to his first marriage and did he have children?

I have found the baptism records on this site for the following children:
William born 4 March 1807
Charles born 29 Aug 1811 died 6 March 1816
Elizabeth born 1813
Thomas born 1817
sophia born 24 Feb 1819
Beata born 1822
Lucy born 1828.

All the above children are accounted for via baptism records BUT I have two more children shown in my records which I am not certain are correct.
One is an Emily Brain born abt 1824 but cannot find baptism which would connect her to William and Beata.
The other one is a James Brain who married Mary Herbert on 30 April 1831 at Abenhall. There is no father named on the marriage record.
For whatever reason I had this James in my records as the son of William and Beata but as I cannot find a baptism record for him I am not certain I have the correct father. To confuse the issue, 1841 census shows him as born 1806, 1851 as born 1810, 1861 as born 1805, 1871 as born 1804 and 1881 as born 1801.
Any help appreciated. Regards Jean Herbert

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http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=8459#p8474

WILLIAM BRAIN was born 21 Jul 1751 in Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England. He married ???.

Child of WILLIAM BRAIN and ??? is:

i. WILLIAM BRAIN, b. Apr 1785, Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England; d. 24 Jun 1849, East Dean, Gloucestershire, England.

William 1785 marries BEATEAH BRAIN

BEATEAH BEDDIS, daughter of JAMES BEDDIS and MARY MEREDITH. She was born Apr 1785, and died 3 Dec 1859 in Edgehills, East Dean, Gloucesteshire, England.

Year: 1785
Month: Apr
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: BEDDIS
Child_Forenames: Beata
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: [not stated]
Occupation: [not stated]
Officiating_Minister: [not stated]
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P228 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 3
Parish_Chapel: Newnham

Burial info suggest 1783 !!
Date: 8 DEC 1859
First Name: BEATA
Surname: BRAIN
Age: 76
Burial Register: LITTLEDEAN 1845-1865
Place of Abode: EAST DEAN

Year: 1859
Month: Dec
Day: 8
Surname: BRAIN
Forenames: Beata
Residence: East Dean
Age_at_death: 76
Officiating_Minister: John J. Hedges
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes: Text in margin illegible. Forename confirmed Death Register vol 6a page 129
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/12
Page_No: 42
Parish_Chapel: Littledean

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Hi Jean

I've found this one on IGI but it's member submitted and may be a bit dodgy!

William Brain Compact Disc #133 Pin #398167 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Christening: 6 May 1773

Little Dean Hill, Gloucestershire, England
Death: 24 Jun 1849

Edge Hill, Little Dean Hill, Gloucestershire, England
Burial: Jun 1849

Edge Hill, Little Dean Hill, Gloucestershire, England

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Parents
Father: Thomas William Brain Disc #133 Pin #398083
Mother: Elizabeth Sarah Goolsby Disc #133 Pin #398085

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Beata Beddis Disc #133 Pin #394160
Marriage: 1 Jan 1807
Flaxley, Gloucestershire, England

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Thank you both for your research. As there is still uncertainty as to the actual date of birth and parentage of William, I will leave him alone. I was more concerned about James Brain, son of William and Beata. I initially could not find his baptism but with the help of new specs I think I may have found his baptism as follows:

Baptism of James Brain
Record_ID: 185309
Date : 3 Aug 1817
Parents Surname: BRAIN
Child Forenames: James
Father's Forenames: Will[ia]m
Mother's Forenames: Beatock
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda: Son of Born June 10
Register Reference: P110 IN 1/4
Page No: 14
Parish_Chapel: Littledean

If I had not found this record it would have disrupted my whole tree, as this James married Mary Herbert in April 1831. BUT the following records is the one which threw me. It is for another one of William and Beata's sons, Thomas. You will notice that the baptism dates are the same year, James being 3 Aug 1817 and Thomas 6 July 1817. I find this strange. Why not have the two boys baptised together as the dates are so near to each other? Difficult to establish actual dates of birth. Regards Jean Herbert

Baptism of Thomas Brain
Record_ID: 31795 Entry Number: 159
Date: 6 July 1817
Parents Surname: BRAIN
Child Forenames: Thomas
Father's Forenames: William
Mother's Forenames: Beatah
Place of Residence: Hundred of St Bri[avel]s
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating Minister: Henry Prowse Jones
Event type: Baptism
Register Reference: P110 IN 1/5
Page No: 20
Parish_Chapel: Littledean

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JAMES BRAIN was born 10 Jun 1807 in Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England, and died 24 Aug 1886 in Collafield, Gloucestershire, England He married MARY HERBERT 13 Apr 1831 in ?. She was born 1808 in Abinghall Gloucestershire, England, and died 13 Dec 1887 in Collafield-Edgehills, Gloucestershire, England.

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Children of WILLIAM BRAIN and BEATEAH BEDDIS are:
i. JAMES BRAIN, b. 10 Jun 1807, Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England; d. 24 Aug 1886, Collafield, Gloucestershire, England.
ii. WILLIAM BRAIN, b. 1807.
iii. BENJAMIN BRAIN, b. 1809 - 1834 ?
iv. CHARLES BRAIN, b. 1811.
v. ELIZABETH BRAIN, b. 1813.
vi. THOMAS BRAIN, b. 1817.
vii. BETEAH BRAIN, b. 1822.
viii. EMILAH BRAIN, b. 1824.
ix. LUCY BRAIN, b. 1828.

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Thank you Slowhands. So, is the baptism I found (with aide of new specs)the wrong James or, is it a transcription error and should read 1807 not 1817 as on baptism record? Should I have gone to Specsavers? Regards Jean

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This is the IGI record that I used to verify my notes when tracing the BRAIN / GRINDLE Collafield extended family.

JAMES BRAINE
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Event(s):
Birth: 10 JUN 1807
Christening: 03 AUG 1807 Little Dean, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM BRAINE
Mother: BEATAH
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C029962 1617 - 1812 0425456 Film 6911755 Film
Sheet: 00

this sites transcription

Year: 1807
Month: Aug
Day: 3
Parents_Surname: BRAIN
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: Will[ia]m
Mothers_Forenames: Beatock
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: [not stated]
Occupation: [not stated]
Officiating_Minister: [not stated]
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Son of Born June 10
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 14
Parish_Chapel: Littledean

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