William Cooke, b. Lydbrook (?) 1799-1800 (General)

by Greg Manning, Wednesday, May 28, 2008, 23:33 (6032 days ago)

William Cooke (1799/1800-c.1878) was my gx2 grandfather.

When he married Eliza Rosser (sister of Anne, who was scandalously married to Edward, Vct Lascelles) at St James's Westminster on 27th July 1824, the Hereford Journal for August 18th noted that he was "of Lidbrook, Glocestershire (sic)". That is all I have to go on for his place of birth.

He was a cornfactor and subsequently a timber merchant in Hereford, until in 1838, with Anne and Edward both dead and the Lascelles connection defunct, he forged bills worth about £1500, and was transported for life. So I am Australian. Had he committed his crime ten years earlier, he would have swung and I would not be anything.

He arrived at Sydney on the vessel Theresa on February 1 1839, aged 39.

During his trial at the Hereford Assizes, the judge referred in scathing terms to Cooke's betrayal of his birth, education and class. This once eminent man must be traceable, but I've never been able to find him before 1824.

I know that the name Cooke was prominent in the Forest about the time of the Civil War, but have no link to the C18th. (Of course, he may not be connected, and his line may have added the 'e' later.) The complex history of the Lydbrook parishes doesn't help matters: I'm not certain what "of Lidbrook" might have meant in 1824.

Any assistance will be very gratefully received -- and I have plenty of good stories about the Australian side of the family for distant relatives.

Many thanks

William COOK 1800 Welsh Bicknor

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, May 29, 2008, 03:04 (6031 days ago) @ Greg Manning

Here is a candidate , just across the river Wye from Lydbrook

WILLIAM COOK
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 15 JAN 1800 Welsh Bicknor, Hereford, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN COOK
Mother: AMELIA
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C171741 1699 - 1714 1595048 IT 3-6, 8 Film NONE
C171741 1728 - 1812 1595048 IT 3-6, 8 Film NONE
Sheet:

Possible parents

JOHN COOK
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Marriages:
Spouse: AMELIA MORSE
Marriage: 17 NOV 1794 Newland, Gloucester, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M036201 1754 - 1851 0856960 Film 6911883 Film
Sheet: 00

Burial of mother

Year: 1833
Month: Apr
Day: 8
Surname: COOK
Forenames: Amelia
Place of Residence: Lidbrook
Age at death: 74 years
Officiating Minister: The funeral performed by Henry Birkin Off[iciatin]g Min[iste]r
Event: Burial
Cause of death:
Memoranda: wife of John
Notes: signed by F Duncan
Register Reference: P275 IN 1/12
Page No: 70
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean


1841 Lydbrook nr Stowfield
John Cooke abt 1761 Gloucestershire, England Bicknor English, Gloucestershire
Anne Chapman abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England Bicknor English, Gloucestershire

1851 Lydbrook
Thomas Taylor abt 1791 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Taylor abt 1796 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Taylor abt 1828 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
John Cook abt 1759 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Father-in-law West Dean, Gloucestershire

Potential burial of father

Year: 1852
Month: Jun
Day: 23
Surname: COOK
Forenames: John
Place of Residence: Lydbrook
Age at death: 94
Officiating Minister: J Burdon
Event: Burial
Cause of death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: from 1813
Page No: 99
Parish_Chapel: English Bicknor

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

William COOK 1800 Welsh Bicknor

by Greg Manning, Thursday, May 29, 2008, 04:27 (6031 days ago) @ slowhands

Yes! Three of William and Eliza Cooke's nine children had the middle name Morse, including my great grandfather, Thomas Morse Frederick. Another popular middle name in the family was Montague, which I have not yet sourced.

Thanks very much for your speedy reply. Please let me know if you're interested in any details of the Cookes in Australia.

William COOK 1800 Welsh Bicknor

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, May 29, 2008, 05:03 (6031 days ago) @ Greg Manning

Result great - another wall crumbles!

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Amelia COOK c1759-1833

by ChrisW @, Thursday, May 29, 2008, 07:32 (6031 days ago) @ Greg Manning

Record_ID: 40855
Entry Number: 4545
Year: 1833
Month: Apr
Day: 8
Surname: COOK
Forenames: Amelia
Place of Residence: Lidbrook
Age at death: 74 years
Officiating Minister: The funeral performed by Henry Birkin Off[iciatin]g Min[iste]r
Event: Burial
Cause of death:
Memoranda: wife of John
Notes: signed by F Duncan
Register Reference: P275 IN 1/12
Page No: 70
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean
Soundex: C200

John COOK c1758-1852?

by ChrisW @, Thursday, May 29, 2008, 07:39 (6031 days ago) @ ChrisW

A possible?

Record_ID: 16492
Entry Number: 2312
Year: 1852
Month: Jun
Day: 23
Surname: COOK
Forenames: John
Place of Residence: Lydbrook
Age at death: 94
Officiating Minister: J Burdon
Event: Burial
Cause of death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: from 1813
Page No: 99
Parish_Chapel: English Bicknor
Soundex: C200

John Cook m Amelia Morse 1794

by ChrisW @, Thursday, May 29, 2008, 03:15 (6031 days ago) @ Greg Manning

Yes, no, maybe?


Record_ID: 32992
Entry Number: 491
Year: 1794
Month: Nov
Day: 17
Groom Surname: COOK
Groom Forenames: John
Groom Age at Marriage:
Groom condition:
Groom Rank or Profession:
Groom Residence: Newland
Groom Father's Surname:
Groom Father's Forenames:
Groom Father's Rank or Profession:
Bride Surname: MORSE
Bride Forenames: Amelia
Bride Age at Marriage:
Bride Condition:
Bride Rank or Profession:
Bride Residence: Ruardean
Bride Father's Surname:
Bride Father's Forenames:
Bride Father's Rank or Profession:
Licence or Banns: Licence
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: Both sign
Witness 1: George Morse
Witness 2: Thomas Bond
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: Thos Thomas curate
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P227 IN 1/8
Page No: 716
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex Groom: C200
Soundex Bride: M620

John Cook m Amelia Morse 1794

by Greg Manning, Thursday, May 29, 2008, 04:29 (6031 days ago) @ ChrisW

Dear Chris

Absolutely, as you'll have seen in my reply to slowhands. This is a huge help to me. Thanks very much.

Regards

Greg

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