Joseph Jordan 1812 (General)

by pclark @, Tuesday, June 03, 2008, 07:42 (6027 days ago)

I have the records for this man below, but cannot seem to find a suitable John Jordan.

Joseph says on his marriage certificate that his father was a farmer, yet the only John Jordan I find buried in Huntley seems to be too old.

There also seems to be two brothers called Robert and George born in Huntley to a Ann who is classed as a widow.

Help please

Baptism

Record_ID: 194033
Entry Number: 0
Year: 1812
Month: Aug
Day: 16
Parents Surname: JORDAN
Child Forenames: Joseph
Father's Forenames: John
Mother's Forenames: Ann
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Huntley
Occupation:
Officiating Minister: Richard Foley rector
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P184 IN 1/2
Page No: 22
Parish_Chapel: Huntley
Soundex: J63

Marriage

Record_ID: 33729
Entry Number: 11
Year: 1840
Month: Dec
Day: 31
Groom Surname: JORDAN
Groom Forenames: Joseph
Groom Age at Marriage: of full age
Groom condition: Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession: Blacksmith
Groom Residence: Woolaston
Groom Father's Surname: Jordan
Groom Father's Forenames: John
Groom Father's Rank or Profession: Farmer
Bride Surname: THORN
Bride Forenames: Anne
Bride Age at Marriage: of full age
Bride Condition: Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession: [not stated]
Bride Residence: Woolaston
Bride Father's Surname: Thorne
Bride Father's Forenames: William
Bride Father's Rank or Profession: Mason
Licence or Banns: Banns
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: He Signs she Marks
Witness 1: William Thorn
Witness 2: Mark of Anne Pitcher
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: Charles Bryan Rector
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P376 IN 1/12
Page No: 6
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston
Soundex Groom: J635
Soundex Bride: T650

John Jordan m Ann Bayless 1803

by ChrisW @, Tuesday, June 03, 2008, 12:13 (6027 days ago) @ pclark

How about this one?


Record_ID: 47323
Entry Number: 70
Year: 1803
Month: Oct
Day: 10
Groom Surname: JORDAN
Groom Forenames: John
Groom Age at Marriage:
Groom condition:
Groom Rank or Profession:
Groom Residence: Huntley
Groom Father's Surname:
Groom Father's Forenames:
Groom Father's Rank or Profession:
Bride Surname: BAYLESS
Bride Forenames: Ann
Bride Age at Marriage:
Bride Condition: Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession:
Bride Residence: Tainton
Bride Father's Surname:
Bride Father's Forenames:
Bride Father's Rank or Profession:
Licence or Banns: License
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: Both sign
Witness 1: Will[ia]m Harvey
Witness 2: Sarah Smith
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: Rich[ar]d Foley Curate
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P326 IN 1/7
Page No: 50
Parish_Chapel: Taynton
Soundex Groom: J635
Soundex Bride: B420

John Jordan 1783 Hartpury

by ChrisW @, Tuesday, June 03, 2008, 12:16 (6027 days ago) @ pclark

A possible at Hartpury:

Record_ID: 177544
Entry Number: 0
Year: 1783
Month: May
Day: 16
Parents Surname: JORDAN
Child Forenames: John
Father's Forenames: Joseph
Mother's Forenames: Mary
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating Minister:
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P165 IN 1/2
Page No: 47
Parish_Chapel: Hartpury
Soundex: J635

Ann Baylis 1790 Hartpury

by ChrisW @, Tuesday, June 03, 2008, 12:20 (6027 days ago) @ pclark

Name spelt differently, but also from Hartpury:

Record_ID: 164726
Entry Number: 0
Year: 1790
Month: Dec
Day: 19
Parents Surname: BAYLIS
Child Forenames: Anne
Father's Forenames: William
Mother's Forenames: Eleanor
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating Minister: George Rollo Vicar
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda: Daughter of
Notes:
Register Reference: P165 IN 1/3
Page No: 1
Parish_Chapel: Hartpury
Soundex: B420
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...and then there is this one:

Record_ID: 193615
Entry Number: 0
Year: 1780
Month: Feb
Day: 13
Parents Surname: BAYLISS
Child Forenames: Ann
Father's Forenames: Thomas
Mother's Forenames: Ann
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Huntley
Occupation:
Officiating Minister:
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P184 IN 1/2
Page No: 5
Parish_Chapel: Huntley
Soundex: B420

Joseph Jordan 1812

by Paul Andrews @, Shropshire, England, Tuesday, June 03, 2008, 12:49 (6027 days ago) @ pclark

Record_ID: 47323
Entry Number: 70
Year: 1803
Month: Oct
Day: 10
Groom Surname: JORDAN
Groom Forename: John
Groom Age at Marriage:
Groom condition:
Groom Rank or Profession:
Groom Residence: Huntley
Groom Father's Surname:
Groom Father's Forenames:
Groom Father's Rank or Profession:
Bride Surname: BAYLESS
Bride Forenames: Ann
Bride Age at Marriage:
Bride Condition: Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession:
Bride Residence: Tainton
Bride Father's Surname:
Bride Father's Forenames:
Bride Father's Rank or Profession:
Licence or Banns: Licence
Date of Banns:
Signature or Mark: Both sign
Witness 1: Wil[ia]m Harvey
Witness 2: Sarah Smith
Other Witnesses:
Officiating Minister: Rich[ar]d Foley Curate
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P326 IN 1/7
Page No: 50
Parish_Chapel: Taynton


IGI Individual Record
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JOHN JORDAN
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Marriages:
Spouse: ANN BAYLISS
Marriage: 10 OCT 1803 Taynton, Gloucester, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locally listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: M032351
Dates: 1735 - 1856
Source Call No.: 0091541
Type: Film
Printout Call No.: 6911812
Type: Film
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Joseph Jordan 1812

by ChrisW @, Tuesday, June 03, 2008, 13:00 (6027 days ago) @ Paul Andrews

Please try to keep up Paul, I've already posted that marriage! You are getting as bad as me!

Best Wishes
Chris

Joseph Jordan 1812

by Paul Andrews @, Shropshire, England, Tuesday, June 03, 2008, 13:10 (6027 days ago) @ ChrisW

I will write a hundred lines.

I must try to keep up.
I must try to keep up.

Regards,
Paul.

Joseph Jordan 1812

by ChrisW @, Tuesday, June 03, 2008, 13:14 (6027 days ago) @ Paul Andrews

I can see you're going to fit in very nicely!

Keep digging
Chris

Joseph Jordan 1812

by pclark @, Tuesday, June 03, 2008, 21:09 (6027 days ago) @ ChrisW

Thanks for looking for me

Pete

Joseph Jordan 1812

by shepway @, Tuesday, June 03, 2008, 22:24 (6027 days ago) @ Paul Andrews

The GFHS Marriage Index states that John JORDAN was a widower so the entry on this site should be checked.
There is a burial at Huntley as follows:
Year: 1802
Month: Jul
Day: 5
Surname: JORDAN
Forenames: Betty
Place of Residence: Huntley
Age at death:
Officiating Minister: R Foley rector
Event: Burial
Cause of death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P184 IN 1/2
Page No: 67
Parish_Chapel: Huntley

The IGI lists this marriage:
26 January 1767 John JORDAN to Elizh BRISTOE at Maisemore.

And there is a Will at Gloucester Record Office for John JORDAN who died in 1813. This is the entry from the online index at http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/genealogy/Search.aspx

1814 jordan john U huntley 1814/ 35 farmer Wills 1801 - 1858

And a Headstone at Huntley as follows:
Surname Forename Burial Place Year Age Reference Number
JORDAN ANN HUNTLEY:ST.JOHN 1819 39 0014/00081
JORDAN ELIZABETH HUNTLEY:ST.JOHN 1794 26 0014/00081
JORDAN JOHN HUNTLEY:ST.JOHN 1813 70 0014/00081
JORDAN ELIZABETH HUNTLEY:ST.JOHN 1802 60 0014/00081

Mike

Joseph Jordan 1812

by pclark @, Wednesday, June 04, 2008, 00:43 (6026 days ago) @ shepway

Hi Mike

Some good info here to look at.

Do you think these could be Josephs brothers??

Record_ID: 89279
Entry Number: 38
Year: 1816
Month: Jan
Day: 18
Parents Surname: JORDAN
Child Forenames: Robert
Father's Forenames: [not stated]
Mother's Forenames: Ann
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Huntley
Occupation: widow
Officiating Minister: J Morse cur of Huntley
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P184 IN 1/3
Page No: 5
Parish_Chapel: Huntley
Soundex: J635

Record_ID: 89306
Entry Number: 65
Year: 1818
Month: Mar
Day: 10
Parents Surname: JORDAN
Child Forenames: George
Father's Forenames: [not stated]
Mother's Forenames: Ann
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Taynton
Occupation: widow
Officiating Minister: John Morse
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P184 IN 1/3
Page No: 9
Parish_Chapel: Huntley
Soundex: J635

There is a George Jordan marriage entry(1836 Ruardean) which does not give the fathers name.

Could be the same person


Pete

Joseph Jordan 1812

by shepway @, Wednesday, June 04, 2008, 00:50 (6026 days ago) @ pclark

Distinct possibility that they are brothers given that Ann is described as a Widow.

Robert died young:
Date: 28 AUG 1816
First Name: ROBERT
Surname: JORDAN
Age: 9M
Parish: HUNTLEY 1813-1850
Place of Abode: HUNTLEY

Not found George anywhere. The marriage to Sarah JOHNSON does not fit. The 1851 Census entry tells us that this George was born about 1814/15 in Ruardean. This is the most likely baptism:
Year: 1816
Month: Mar
Day: 3
Parents Surname: JORDAN
Child Forenames: George
Father's Forenames: [not stated]
Mother's Forenames: Elizabeth
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Ruerdean [Ruardean]
Occupation: [not stated]
Officiating Minister: T. D. Fosbrooke Min[iste]r
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda: natural son of by [not stated]
Notes:
Register Reference: P275 IN 1/7
Page No: 18
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

Mike

Joseph Jordan 1812

by shepway @, Wednesday, June 04, 2008, 01:13 (6026 days ago) @ shepway

I have now found George.
In 1841 he is at the New Inn, Hentland, Herefordshire aged 20 and described as a Tailor and not born in the County.
In 1851 Census he is at Peterstow, near Ross on Wye. Married to Eliza b 1816 Hentland, Herefordshire. One son - John aged 1 born Peterstow. Also Sarah Thomas aged 5 described as Wife's daughter.
This is the marriage:
Marriages Dec 1849
Jordan George Ross 26 382
Thomas Eliza Ross 26 382

Eliza Thomas baptised 27 July 1816 at Hentland. Parents John Thomas and Ann.

Also found him in 1861 and 1871 Census.
Here is 1881 Census entry which has birthplace incorrect:
Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation
George JORDON Head M Male 63 Hentland, Hereford, England Tailor
Eliza JORDON Wife M Female 66 Hentland, Hereford, England
William THOMAS Grand Son U Male 15 Peterstow, Hereford, England Farm Laborer

Source Information:
Dwelling Winters Cross
Census Place Peterstow, Hereford, England
Family History Library Film 1341623
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2584 / 75
Page Number 7

1891 Census shows Eliza as a Widow.

This would appear to be registration of death of George:
Deaths Jun 1882
Jordan George 65 Ross 6a 283

and this is death of Eliza:
Deaths Mar 1893
Jordan Eliza 75 Ross 6a 324

Mike

Joseph Jordan 1812

by pclark @, Wednesday, June 04, 2008, 02:40 (6026 days ago) @ shepway

Hi

I eill study the info and get back to you

Thanks


Regards


Pete

Joseph Jordan 1812

by shepway @, Wednesday, June 04, 2008, 02:50 (6026 days ago) @ pclark

I should have said that George gives his place of birth as Huntley in 1851, Taynton in 1861 and Huntley in 1871 Census.
The Census returns indicate that he had 2 children - John born c1850 and Elizabeth born c1852

Mike

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