Howell/Phelps (General)
by Jean Herbert 
, Leeds Yorkshire, Thursday, June 19, 2008, 06:30 (6010 days ago)
William Phelps baptised 23 Aug 1846 Cinderford. Parents John and Elizabeth Phelps.
1851/1861 census shows William at home with his parents.
1871 census shows William moved up to Yorkshire.
William Phelps age 26 unmarried lodging in the household of Thomas and Jane Hale. Address: Synedale Pontefract Yorkshire.
1881 census shows William married to Mary.
William and Mary Phelps. This is where it get complicated.
Children of William and Mary are:
AAA Howell age 12 born abt 1869 Collaford Gloucestershire
Clara Howell age 5 born abt 1876 Castleford Yorkshire
William Howell age 1 born abt 1880 Castelford Yorkshire
Hannah Howell age 3 born abt 1878 Castleford Yorkshire
(Please note that the surname is Howell,not Phelps)
Also shown as living at the same address are:
Jas Howell born abt 1853 and Jno Howell born abt 1856, both Coal Miners
I found Mary at home with her parents James and Mary Howell, in 1871, Also shows child Alice (AAA?) together with Mary and her two brothers John and James.
Next census is 1891 where the childrens names have changed to Phelps. Mary has recently died.
1901 census is a mystery. The only one I could find was a william Phelps age 60 residing in the local Workhouse, but I am not certain it is him.
I was recently shown a record of marriage for a William Phelps and a Mary Howell June 1873 Monmouth vol 11a page 83 but not certain if this is correct.
Can anyone tell me if William and Mary did marry and what happened to William in 1901. Regards Jean Herbert
William PHELPS 1846 Ruspidge
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, June 19, 2008, 12:12 (6010 days ago) @ Jean Herbert
Year: 1846
Month: Aug
Day: 23
Parents_Surname: PHELPS
Child_Forenames: William
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Ruspidge
Occupation: Hollier
Officiating_Minister: J G Smythies
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 13
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Johns
1851 Ruspidge
John Phelps abt 1815 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Phelps abt 1823 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Phelps abt 1840 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Charles Phelps abt 1844 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Phelps abt 1850 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Phelps abt 1846 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Phelps abt 1827 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Brother East Dean, Gloucestershire
1861 Ruspidge
John Phelps abt 1815 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Phelps abt 1823 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Daniell Phelps abt 1859 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Phelps abt 1852 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Phelps abt 1850 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Samuel Phelps abt 1857 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Phelps abt 1847 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
1871 Pontefract
William Phelps abt 1845 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Syndale, Yorkshire
<looks like a reasonable fit >
Name: Mary Howell
Name: William Phelps
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 83
Name: Clara Annie Phelps
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Pontefract
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 128
or possibly
Name: Clara Phelps
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Pontefract
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 103
Name: Jane Hannah Phelps
Year of Registration: 1877
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Pontefract
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 138
Name: William James Phelps
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Pontefract
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 133
<William with Mary's child A A H his step child and probably their children using HOWELL surname, the Boarders probably confused the Enumerator>
1881 14 Union St
Willm. Phelps abt 1845 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Head Whitwood, Yorkshire
Mary Phelps abt 1848 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Wife Whitwood, Yorkshire
Jas. Howell abt 1853 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Boarder Whitwood, Yorkshire
Jno. Howell abt 1856 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Boarder Whitwood, Yorkshire
A. A. H. Howell abt 1869 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Whitwood, Yorkshire
Clara Howell abt 1876 Castleford, Yorkshire, England Daughter Whitwood, Yorkshire
Hannah Howell abt 1878 Methley, Yorkshire, England Daughter Whitwood, Yorkshire
Willm. Howell abt 1880 Castleford, Yorkshire, England Son Whitwood, Yorkshire
<William with Mary's children now using PHELPS surname>
1891 15 Union St
William Phelps abt 1844 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Head Whitwood, Yorkshire
Clara Phelps abt 1876 Methley, Yorkshire, England Daughter Whitwood, Yorkshire
Hannah Phelps abt 1878 Methley, Yorkshire, England Daughter Whitwood, Yorkshire
Willie Phelps abt 1880 Whitwood, Yorkshire, England Son Whitwood, Yorkshire
John Kowell abt 1863 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Brother-in-law Whitwood, Yorkshire
1901 Pontefract Union Workhouse
William Phelps abt 1841 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Inmate Tanshelf, Yorkshire
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Clara Phelps b 1875
by ChrisW , Thursday, June 19, 2008, 12:18 (6010 days ago) @ Jean Herbert
Pontefract covers Castleford area:
Births Sep 1875 (>99%)
Phelps Clara Pontefract 9c 103
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Births Dec 1875 (>99%)
Phelps Clara Annie Pontefract 9c 128
I couldn't find a birth reg. for Clara Howell in the area.
Alice H P Howell b 1868
by ChrisW , Thursday, June 19, 2008, 12:24 (6010 days ago) @ Jean Herbert
This is the only birth reg I can find that is anything like!
Births Dec 1868 (>99%)
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HOWELL Alice Hannah P Monmouth 11a 21
Mary HOWELL 1848 Milkwall
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, June 19, 2008, 12:25 (6010 days ago) @ Jean Herbert
Year: 1848
Month: Jly
Day: 5
Parents_Surname: HOWELL
Child_Forenames: Mary
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Eliza
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Milkwall
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: J L Sisson DDPerpetual Curate Coleford
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 93 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 85
Parish_Chapel: Coleford
1851 Milkwall
Margaret Hewell abt 1783 Lane End, Glamorgan, Wales Head Newland, Gloucestershire
James Hewell abt 1821 Coleford, Glamorgan, Wales Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Eliza Hewell abt 1825 Milkwall, Glamorgan, Wales Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Hannah Hewell abt 1851 Milkwall, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Mary Hewell abt 1849 Milkwall, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
James Hewell abt 1837 Lane End, Glamorgan, Wales Nephew Newland, Gloucestershire
1861
James Howell abt 1819 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Eliza Howell abt 1825 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Ellen Howell abt 1855 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Esther Howell abt 1861 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Hannah Howell abt 1852 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
James Howell abt 1853 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
John Howell abt 1857 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Mary Howell abt 1849 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Richard Howell abt 1859 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Name: Alice Hannah P Howell
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 21
< I wonder if the P is for Phelps ?>
1871 Milkwall
James Howell 51
Eliza Howell 46
Eliza Howell 7
Ellen Howell 16
Esther Howell 10
James Howell 18
John Howell 15
Richard Howell 12
Thomas Howell 3
Mary Howell 22
Alice M D Howell 2 Grand Dau
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Alice GARNER nee PHELPS, HOWELL 1868 Milkwall
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, June 19, 2008, 13:15 (6010 days ago) @ slowhands
1881
Martha Garner abt 1846 Bilston, Staffordshire, England Head Castleford, Yorkshire
Arthur Garner abt 1873 Castleford, Yorkshire, England Son Castleford, Yorkshire
Fred Garner abt 1875 Castleford, Yorkshire, England Son Castleford, Yorkshire
George Garner abt 1863 Old Whittington, Derbyshire, England Son Castleford, Yorkshire
Jim Garner abt 1869 Castleford, Yorkshire, England Son Castleford, Yorkshire
Sarah Jane Garner abt 1879 Castleford, Yorkshire, England Daughter Castleford, Yorkshire
Thomas Garner abt 1865 Castleford, Yorkshire, England Son Castleford, Yorkshire
Walter Garner abt 1872 Castleford, Yorkshire, England Son Castleford, Yorkshire
Lucy Phelps ???
Name: Thomas Garner
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Pontefract
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 139
Name: Alice Garner
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Pontefract
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 145
1891
Thomas Garner abt 1865 Castleford, Yorkshire, England Head Whitwood, Yorkshire
Alice Garner abt 1869 Milkwall, Gloucestershire, England Wife Whitwood, Yorkshire
Alice Garner abt 1890 Castleford, Yorkshire, England Daughter Whitwood, Yorkshire
Walter Garner abt 1872 Castleford, Yorkshire, England Boarder Whitwood, Yorkshire
Name: Thomas Garner ??
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 36
District: Pontefract
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 101
1901 ?
and at first this looked like a complete red herring , but this is a Niece to Alice from Milkwall
Name: Alice Ann Garner
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Pontefract
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 161
1901
George Garner abt 1863 Whittington, Derbyshire, England Head Castleford, Yorkshire
Mary Garner abt 1863 Castleford, Yorkshire, England Wife Castleford, Yorkshire
Alice A Garner abt 1898 Castleford, Yorkshire, England Daughter Castleford, Yorkshire
George R Garner abt 1890 Castleford, Yorkshire, England Son Castleford, Yorkshire
Leonard Garner abt 1886 Castleford, Yorkshire, England Son Castleford, Yorkshire
1901
George Cookson abt 1876 Pontefract, Yorkshire, England Head Pontefract, Yorkshire
Sarah E Cookson abt 1876 Meshley, Yorkshire, England Wife Pontefract, Yorkshire
Herbert Cookson abt 1896 Pontefract, Yorkshire, England Son Pontefract, Yorkshire
Name: Herbert Cookson
Name: Alice A Garner
Year of Registration: 1919
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's Surname: Cookson
District: Pontefract
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 234
Name: George H Cookson
Year of Registration: 1919
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Garner
District: Pontefract
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 34_
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