Martha Harding & her dau Mary Ann 1810 Tibberton

Can anyone help with further details of Martha Harding. All I know is that she had an illeg. dau. Mary Ann who was bapt. Tibberton on 29th July 1810.

Mary Ann reappears in 1845 in Hartpury as the mother of Henry John Phelps and the partner of John Phelps.

I am looking for any information about Martha and the location of both Martha & Mary Ann in the 1841 census.

Martin Phelps
Warwickshire

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I started tracking Henry in the hope that a clue to his parents/grand parents might emerge

1871 Hendon MID
Henry Phelps 25 Haspury Railway Signalman
Alice Phelps 29 West dean
Albert Phelps 1
Harry Phelps 3

Name: Alice Morgan
Name: Henry H Phelps
Year of Registration: 1866
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Cheltenham
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 740

1861
John Philips abt 1812 Winchcomb, Gloucestershire, England Head Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Brickmaker
Mary Philips abt 1814 Tibberton, Gloucestershire, England Wife Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Henry Philips abt 1845 Harpury, Gloucestershire, England Son Cheltenham, Gloucestershire

Name: Mary Ann Harding
Name: John Phillips
Year of Registration: 1857
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Cheltenham
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 808

1851
John Phelps abt 1819 Pauntley, Gloucestershire, England Head Gloucester St John The Baptist, Gloucestershire pauper farmer
Mary Phelps abt 1811 Tibberton, Gloucestershire, England Wife Gloucester St John The Baptist, Gloucestershire
Henry Phelps abt 1846 Hartpury, Gloucestershire, England Son Gloucester St John The Baptist, Gloucestershire

Name: Henry Phelps ?
Year of Registration: 1845
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Newent
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 359

1841 Kews House
Joseph Phelps abt 1776 Gloucestershire, England Pauntley, Gloucestershire
John Phelps abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Pauntley, Gloucestershire
Thomas Phelps abt 1827 Gloucestershire, England Pauntley, Gloucestershire
Fanny Hooper abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Pauntley, Gloucestershire

Year: 1797
Month: Mar
Day: 22
Parents_Surname: PHELPS
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: Joseph
Mothers_Forenames: Fanny
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: J Foley Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P225 IN1/3
Page_Number: 47
Parish_Chapel: Newent

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Thanks slowhands. I have not found any clues from later records. Although the elusive John Phelps had me stumped for 20 years.

John Phelps was born in the islanded part of Pauntley (where his father farmed at Kews House) & bapt in the nearest church Newent in 1797. The age in the 1851 census is a 32/52 transcription error. In 1841 and 1861 his age is nearer. He never married Mary Ann Harding but she, as a spinster, went on to marry John Philips - just to confuse the genealogist wielding "Occams razor".

Martin

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On the 1841 census Fanny Hooper is living with the Phelps family at Kews House, Pauntly. Fanny dies in 1859 and is buried with her father and one of her sisters in Twigworth (St Matthews).

Fanny, her mother and (some of her) sisters were born Pauntley/Newent. I would like to trace Fanny's parents but do not know her mothers maiden name. Could she have been a Phelps?

I know Elizabeth was born Pauntley c. 1794(census info). She married James Hooper, a malster according to a daughters 1851 marriage certificate.

Their children include Catherine bapt newent 5 Sept 1827, Hesther bapt Newent May 1831. There is also Anne and Emma also probably born Pauntley and possibly a James bapt 1820 who may be a brother.

Does anyone have any information about the Hooper Family and Elizabeth of Pauntley? Elizabeth died 1872. Per the census she was living with the family of her daughter Ann and Ann's second husband Alfred Drinkwater.

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Just spotted your response to my original question - and at work so my memory may not be precise for the dates !

Fanny hooper is a grandaughter of Joseph Phelps of Kews House, Pauntley and daughter of James Hooper & Elizabeth Phelps.

James farmed at Hillhouse next to Kews according to the bapt records of his children (Pauntley & Newent).

James married Ann Phelps in 1818 (another dau of Joseph) at Hempstead & they both claimed to be from extra parochial Littleworth (a ruse to marry away from home ?).

Ann died in 1823 at 25 and shares the gravestone of Joseph in Churcham churchyard.

James then married Elizabeth Phelps again in Hempstead and he inherited Elizabeth's illeg dau Sophia Wood who was born at Kews House(not sure which Wood was father).

Martin

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