Caleb JENKINS b1852 Bream (General)

by alison2 @, Sunday, July 27, 2008, 12:35 (5972 days ago)

Caleb Jenkins b17 Nov 1852, m Ruth kear 1908 d1933 and buried in bream.
I am trying to find him in the 1891 and 1901 censuses and have had no luck, if you can help it would be much appreciated.

Alison

Caleb JENKINS b1852 Whitecroft

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, July 27, 2008, 22:22 (5972 days ago) @ alison2

just confirming what we know...

Year: 1853
Month: Apr
Day: 10
Parents_Surname: JENKINS
Child_Forenames: Caleb
Fathers_Forenames: Samuel
Mothers_Forenames: Mary Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Whitecroft
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Maurice Britton
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: [1] Son of [2] Born Nov[ember] 17 1852
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number: 20
Parish_Chapel: Monmouth Wesleyan Methodist

1861
Samuel Jenkins abt 1815 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Jenkins abt 1823 Ritton, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Caleb Jenkins abt 1853 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizth Jenkins abt 1855 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Jane Jenkins abt 1859 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
John Jenkins abt 1856 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Rush Jenkins abt 1851 Blaina, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Seoi Jenkins abt 1849 Cumbraes, Monmouthshire, Wales Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Simeon Jenkins abt 1843 Cumbraes, Monmouthshire, Wales Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1871
Samuel Jenkins 55
Mary A Jenkins 47
Agness Jenkins 5
Celeb Jenkins 18
Elizabeth Jenkins 17
Jane Jenkins 13
John Jenkins 15
Obert Jenkins 11

1881
Samuel Jenkins abt 1815 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Jenkins abt 1824 Bitton, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Agnes Jenkins abt 1866 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Caleb Jenkins abt 1853 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

on his marriage to Ruth - is he a Widower ? < he would be in his mid fifties>

Name: Ruth Kear
Name: Caleb Jenkins
Year of Registration: 1908
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 85

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Caleb JENKINS b1852 Whitecroft

by alison2 @, Monday, July 28, 2008, 13:05 (5971 days ago) @ slowhands

Thanks, Slowhands. The information you have given is all correct. In answer to your question, I have looked for an earlier marriage for Caleb, but not found one.
I don't know if he was widower on his marriage to Ruth Kear as I have not seen the marriage certificate.

Evidence I do have about Caleb, he was left 2 houses, some outhouses and Garden in Bream, in his father Samuel's Will. ( I have a copy). Samuel died in 1892.

Caleb JENKINS b1852 Whitecroft

by janethowell, Sunday, June 22, 2014, 13:50 (3816 days ago) @ alison2

Late reply but only just seen this trawling the archive

Who was Samuel's father i.e. Caleb's grandfather?

Am trying to establish if This Samuel is brother to my own ggggrandfather.

Janet

Samuel JENKINS b "abt 1815 Bream"

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Sunday, June 22, 2014, 14:56 (3816 days ago) @ janethowell

From Slowhands' post the Census' show Samuel was born Bream abt 1815, is married to Mary Ann who was born Bitton Glos abt 1823. The Census also suggests their first child Caleb is born abt 1853, so probably married before then.

From FreeBMD I suspect this is their Marriage, and in Mary's home area;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Jun 1847 (>99%)
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Green Mary Ann Keynsham 11 134
JENKINS Samuel Keynsham 11 134

Bitton is in Keynsham District, as this link from above FreeBMD page
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/keynsham.html
This forum has shown many close links twixt the Forest and Bitton area, which was also wellknown for it's coalmining in those days, see
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/Bitton/Gaz1868.html
https://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/2049799323/

So ref the above marriage, sadly no FoD PR for this marriage (I certainly cannot find one), shame as would hopefully include names of parents/witnesses.
Maybe it's available on LDS etc, they have several marriage records f-o-c ?

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As you've probably noticed there are a few Baptisms within the FoD PRs which MAY be our Samuel, this seems the most likely but only from the location, there are other possibles ???...

Record_ID: 192026
Entry_Number: 50
Year: 1814
Month: Oct
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: JENKINS
Child_Forenames: Samuel
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Maria
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Forest of Dean
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: Josiah Allport
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 7
Parish_Chapel: Bream
Soundex: J525

Suggest try and find Thomas and Maria on the 1861 Census, if still alive are they near Samuel ?
Also of course look for Samuel, and hopefully still with/near his parents, within the 1841 and 1851 Census.

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Not certain as haven't studied all the options in this site's PRs, but could this be Samuels' burial, seems to fit but NOT the rarest of names ?

Record_ID: 52926
Entry_Number: 1454
Year: 1892
Month: May
Day: 12
Surname: JENKINS
Forenames: Samuel
Residence: Mill Hill
Age_at_death: 77
Officiating_Minister: HE Dandy
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/17
Page_No: 182
Parish_Chapel: Bream
Soundex: J525


PS Found this Burial while searching the PRs for wife Mary Ann's burial, could this be one of their children ?. That said lots of Mary Ann Jenkins in the FoD PRs.

Record_ID: 51942
Entry_Number: 384
Year: 1861
Month: Dec
Day: 3
Surname: JENKINS
Forenames: Mary Ann
Residence: Sander's Green
Age_at_death: 5
Officiating_Minister: Cornelius Witherby PC
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P57 IN 1/17
Page_No: 48
Parish_Chapel: Bream
Soundex: J525

Just a suggestion, hope it helps you ??

=========================== IMPORTANT UPDATE =============================

OH NO I'VE DUNNIT AGAIN !!. Seems like I enjoyed too much sun this morning !!

Searching the forum for Samuel gives this prior thread, I really should have known it would be there given the author, at least it seems to confirm my own research which is nice. Off for a lie down now... ;-)

http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=12073

Samuel JENKINS b "abt 1815 Bream"

by MPGriffiths @, Sunday, June 22, 2014, 19:17 (3816 days ago) @ Jefff

Just to confirm:


Ancestry, Select Bristol Parish Register

Name: Samuel JENKINS

Gender: Male

Marital Status: Widowed

Marriage Date: 30 May 1847

Marriage Place: Bitton, St Mary, Gloucestershire, England

Father: Thomas JENKINS

Spouse: Mary Ann GREEN

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Bitton families


http://www.bittonfamilies.com

Samuel JENKINS b "abt 1815 Bream"

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Sunday, June 22, 2014, 21:03 (3816 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Thanks MPG for the confirmation of the marriage and with parents names !, plus the very usefull Bitton site.

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