Bayly/Bayley or even Baily (General)
by kermie62 
, Thursday, August 14, 2008, 22:28 (5954 days ago)
Greetings
I am researching my three toimes great grandfatheer Alfred Bayly/Bayley etc who was transported to Australia for stealing a horse or a house (the copy I have is particularly bad although we are pretty sure it was horse and who came to a tragic end. His convict record gives his natural place as Longhope and I foud his chirsitening record lsited for Mitcheldean givng his birth date as July 1808 having been "privately baptised" at Longhope previously. I ahve been reading the film of the original parish records and transcribing the Baylys I have come across and there seems to have been especially in the later years, a lot of them coming from the Hundred of St Briavels. This is suprising given the distances between the parishes. There is still some uncertainties however about his parentage what with the apparent marriages and remarriages.
1) Can anyone explain to me what "privately baptised" meant and
2) Is there anyone who is resaearching the same line as me.
If anyone is interested I can given them details of thier wayward cousins life.
Thank you and congratulations on a wonderful site
Bayly/Bayley or even Baily
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, August 14, 2008, 22:35 (5954 days ago) @ kermie62
Hundred of St Briavels.
The Hundred is different to the Parish !
in simple terms.
The Parish relates to the Church / Village, where as the Hundred is an Admin area and is understood to be the geographic limits of the Forest of Dean.
Private Baptism
Usually refers to a baptism carried out at home rather than publically in a Church.
I have seen reference to the possibility of a lay person performing private baptism.
Year: 1819
Month: Jun
Day: 13
Parents_Surname: BAYLY
Child_Forenames: Alfred.
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Anne
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Mitcheldean
Occupation: [not stated]
Officiating_Minister: John Newport Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: George Augustus born Dec 8th 1801 & Henry born April 8th 1803 & Edward born Dec 28th 1805 and Alfred born July 16th 1808 Sons of Thomas and Anne Bayly Mitcheldean were received into the Church at Mitcheldean 13 June 1819 having been privately baptised in
Notes: Entry transposed from notes in margin as per memorandum.
Register_Reference: P 220 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 20
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean
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Bayly/Bayley or even Baily
by kermie62 , Friday, August 15, 2008, 00:34 (5954 days ago) @ slowhands
Ahh
Thanks for your response
So if I go out and order the Parish records for Longhope I would not necessarily and probably not find the original entry. Why was this done, did it indicate some degree of social standing (ie like the diference between Banns and by License as it was explained to me) or that the child was sickly and might not live long enough for the formal baptism.
I did see other night in the films, the original entry you quoted. It was very unusual as it was tucked away in the margins and not part of the main record. I also wonder why this was done so late in the childrens lives, I mean george was 18 and my ancestor was 14. It was also done in Mitcheldean not the orginal parish. Was there a sudden stocktaking so to speak of the churches cattle that made it important for all to be registered?
With respect to the "Hundred" vs Parish, so this was simply way for the Minster to record the people of being from the other side of the river 10 kilometers to the east without actually specificing the other Parish. So there was "of this Parish" and the rest from over the river lumped together as "of the Hundred". I am sure they werent thinking of future genalogists when they did this.