Griffiths/Horlicks Ruardean

Ok folks, I have to ask have I married into part of the Horlicks empire!

Ive just been reading about Priscilla Griffiths of Ruardean marrying James Horlick and so the dynasty commenced.

i got the info from http://www.jansdigs.com/Racine/bellewhorlick.htm

Ive found a Priscilla on IGI baptised 04/05/1817 Ruardean, parents John and Margaret.

Does anyone know anything about them?

Carol

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James Horlick (1844-1921) amassed a fortune in the United States of America from a malted milk drink bearing his surname and was given a baronetcy in 1914.

From: 'Ruardean', A History of the County of Gloucester: Volume 5: Bledisloe Hundred, St. Briavels Hundred, The Forest of Dean (1996), pp. 231-47.

The Horlick family, notably James and William became famous for the method of producing dried milk with added malt - later to become world famous. The original malting shed still stands in Ruardean, a small stone building behind the Malt Shovel public house, although it may shortly be removed and rebuilt on a different site in the village.

1841 Ho 107/365/10 folio 7 Ruardean
Town end

James HORLICK 30 Harness maker
Priscilla 23
John Griffiths Horlick 10 months
Sarah Horlick 22

all born in county

1841 Ho 107/365/10 folio 8 Ruardean
Cinderhill

John GRIFFITHS 64 Cordwainer
Margaret 66

all born in county

1851 ?

1861
James Horlick abt 1804 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean Gloucestershire
Priscilla Horlick abt 1817 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ruardean Gloucestershire
Peter Horlick abt 1843 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean Gloucestershire

William Nockells abt 1825 London, England Head Milton Kent
James Horlick abt 1845 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Cousin Milton Kent

1871
James Herlich abt 1810 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean Herefordshire
Priscilla Herlich abt 1787 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ruardean Herefordshire
Peter Herlich abt 1842 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean Herefordshire

James Horlick abt 1845 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Servant St James Westminster London

Name: HORLICK, Priscilla
Record Type: Deaths
Age at death: 57
Quarter: March
Year: 1874
District: Ross
County: Gloucestershire Herefordshire Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 6a
Page: 335

1881 Ruardean High Street, Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England
Peter Horlick abt 1842 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head
Alice Jane Horlick abt 1854 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife
Alexander N. Horlick abt 1876 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son
Alice M. A. Horlick abt 1880 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter

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From GFHS Marriage Index:
15 June 1837 James HORLICK married Priscilla GRIFFITHS by Banns at Ruardean Parish Church.

1851 Census entry:

Piece Folio SchNo Town Surname Forename Relatn Marr Age Occupation County Place
1976 0346 079 Ruardean HORLICK James HD M 41 Saddler E 2M GLS Ruardean
1976 0346 079 Ruardean HORLICK Priscilla WI M 35 - GLS Ruardean
1976 0346 079 Ruardean HORLICK Peter SO - 9 Scholar GLS Ruardean
1976 0346 079 Ruardean HORLICK James SO - 7 Scholar GLS Ruardean
1976 0346 079 Ruardean HORLICK William SO - 5 Scholar GLS Ruardean

Best wishes
Mike

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PRISCILLA GRIFFITHS
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 04 MAY 1817 Independent-Nc, Ruardean, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN GRIFFITHS
Mother: MARGARET
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C036281 1795 - 1837 0595450 (RG4 1769) Film 6911892 Film
Sheet: 00

JOHN GRIFFITHS
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 01 APR 1777 Ruardean, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: GEORGE GRIFFITHS
Mother: SARAH

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C025811 1538 - 1558 0423291 Film 6911621 Film
C025811 1607 - 1812 0417159 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

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< with thanks to Mike G for his research >

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JOHN GRIFFITS 1802 -1822
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 10 JAN 1802 Ruardean, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN GRIFFITS
Mother: MARGARET

Date: 4 JUN 1822
First Name: JOHN
Surname: GRIFFITHS
Age: 20
Burial Register: RUARDEAN 1813-1829
Place of Abode: RUARDEAN
City of Abode: -
Relationship: SON
Relationship To: JOHN & MARGARET

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SOPHIA GRIFFITHS 1804 ->
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 08 JUL 1804 Ruardean, Gloucester, England

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Parents:
Father: JOHN GRIFFITHS
Mother: MARGARET

< believe Sophia died. See Baptism below in 1809. Burial not in GFHS Index.>

SOPHIA GRIFFITHS
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 01 MAY 1809 Ruardean, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN GRIFFITHS
Mother: MARGRET

21 August 1827 Sophia GRIFFITHS married Corneliues COOK by Banns at Ruardean

Cannot see them in the 1851 Census.

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ELIZABETH GRIFFITHS 1806 - 1828
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 22 JUN 1806 Ruardean, Gloucester, England

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Parents:
Father: JNO. GRIFFITHS
Mother: MARGRET

Date: 19 DEC 1828
First Name: ELIZABETH
Surname: GRIFFITHS
Age: 22
Burial Register: RUARDEAN 1813-1829
Place of Abode: RUARDEAN
City of Abode: -
Relationship: DAUGHTER
Relationship To: JOHN & MARGARET
Occupation: -
County: GLS

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HANAH GRIFFITHS 1808 ->
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 23 MAR 1808 Ruardean, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN GRIFFITHS
Mother: MARGRET

<<Assumed to have dies young. See next entry. Not listed in Burial Index >>>

HANNAH GRIFFITHS
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 25 APR 1811 Ruardean, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN GRIFFITHS
Mother: MARGARET

23 August 1831 John WEAVER married Hannah GRIFFITHS at Ruardean.

March Quarter 1851. Willian Goode PENN and Hannah WEAVER.
Ross Vol 26 Page 287

1851 census
Piece Folio SchNo Town Surname Forename Relatn Marr Age Occupation County Place
1976 0340 031 Ruardean PENN William HD M 29 Collier GLS Ruardean
1976 0340 031 Ruardean PENN Hannah WI M 39 - GLS Ruardean
1976 0340 031 Ruardean WEAVER John SS - 14 Collier (Wife's Son) GLS Ruardean

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GEORGE GRIFFITHS 1808 ->
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 23 MAR 1808 Ruardean, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN GRIFFITHS
Mother: MARGRET
Cannot find a marriage, burial or 1851 listing

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MARY GRIFFITHS 1808 ->
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 23 MAR 1808 Ruardean, Gloucester, England

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Parents:
Father: JOHN GRIFFITHS
Mother: MARGRET

29 November 1829 John MILES married Mary GRIFFITHS at Newland

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ELIZABETH GRIFFITHS 1808 - 1822
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SARAH GRIFFITHS 1813 - 1820
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 22 AUG 1813 Independent-Nc, Ruardean, Gloucester, England

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Parents:
Father: JOHN GRIFFITHS
Mother: MARGARET

GFHS Burial Index:
Date: 11 MAR 1820
First Name: SARAH
Surname: GRIFFITHS
Age: 6
Burial Register: RUARDEAN 1813-1829
Place of Abode: RUARDEAN
City of Abode: -
Relationship: DAUGHTER

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LYDIA GRIFFITHS 1815 - 1820
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 26 NOV 1815 Independent-Nc, Ruardean, Gloucester, England

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Parents:
Father: JOHN GRIFFITHS
Mother: MARGARET

Date: 11 MAR 1820
First Name: LYDIA
Surname: GRIFFITHS
Age: 4
Burial Register: RUARDEAN 1813-1829
Place of Abode: RUARDEAN
City of Abode: -
Relationship: DAUGHTER
Relationship To: JOHN & MARGARET
Occupation: -
County: GLS

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ISAAC GRIFFITHS 1819 - 1829
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 21 NOV 1819 Independent-Nc, Ruardean, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN GRIFFITHS
Mother: MARGARET

Burial Index:
Date: 16 AUG 1829
First Name: ISAAC
Surname: GRIFFITHS
Age: 9
Burial Register: RUARDEAN 1813-1829
Place of Abode: RUARDEAN
City of Abode: -
Relationship: SON
Relationship To: JOHN(SHOEMAKER)& MARGARET
Occupation: -
County: GLS

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1861
William Penn abt 1822 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean Gloucestershire
Hannah Penn abt 1812 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ruardean Gloucestershire
John Weaver abt 1837 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean Gloucestershire

1871
William Penn abt 1822 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean Herefordshire
Hannah Penn abt 1821 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ruardean Herefordshire
Lilliam Waren abt 1863 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Ruardean Herefordshire

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William Penn - Does anyone know whether this Penn family are related to William Penn (of Pensylvannia fame!) who attended Arch-bishop Harsnet School in Chigwell ? The Master of the school was Mr Burford.

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From GFHS Marriage Index:
29 September 1801 John GRIFFITHS married Margaret KNIGHT by Banns at Gloucester St Mary de Crypt.

1851 Census entry for John:
Piece Folio SchNo Town Surname Forename Relatn Marr Age Occupation County Place
1959 0095 022 Ruardean Woodside KNIGHT John HD W 53 Coal Miner GLS Ruardean
1959 0095 022 Ruardean Woodside GRIFFITHS John LG W 64 Coal Miner GLS Ruardean
1959 0095 022 Ruardean Woodside PULLEN William LG U 47 Labourer GLS Redmarley

From GFHS Burial Index:
Date: 4 DEC 1850
First Name: MARGARET
Surname: GRIFFITHS
Age: 71
Burial Register: RUARDEAN 1847-1864
Place of Abode: RUARDEAN

Date: 26 JAN 1852
First Name: JOHN
Surname: GRIFFITHS
Age: 64
Burial Register: RUARDEAN 1847-1864
Place of Abode: WOODSIDE

Best wishes
Mike

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Thanks everyone for the wealth of info, which apart from telling me the Horlicks fortune may not be within my grasp, but hey, you never know:), is helping me sort out the Griffiths families of Ruardean.

I can see Geoge Griffiths and Sarah were the parents of John Griffiths. IGI has a George Griffiths born around 1750 marrying a Sarah Brain in Ruardean. Its not in capitals so I understand thatit may not be definate.

I need to find out who were Georges parents, surely if I go back far enough I will get a connection:)

Thanks again everyone.

Carol

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Carol

I have the following marriage recorded in my Ruardean database which I am busy compiling:

GRIFFITHS George married BRAIN Sarah on 18-Feb 1775 at Ruardean by Banns
source: Bishops Transcripts

There is no sign of a baptism for a George GRIFFITHS around 1750 at Ruardean.

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Thanks as always Nolene, you are a great help to us all.

Carol

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Year 1837
Month Jun
Day 15

Groom Surname HORLICK
Groom Forename(s) James
Groom Age at Marriage
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession
Groom Residence Ruardean
Groom Father's Surname
Groom Father's Forename(s)
Groom Father's Rank or Profession

Bride Surname GRIFFITHS
Bride Forename(s) Priscilla
Bride Age at Marriage
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession
Bride Residence Ruardean
Bride Father's Surname
Bride Father's Forename(s)
Bride Father's Rank or Profession

Licence or Banns Banns
Date of banns
Signature or Mark both sign
Witness 1 Cornelius Cook
Witness 2 Sophia Cook
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister John Chell Officiating Minister
Event type Marriage
Memoranda
Transcriber's Notes
Register Reference P275 IN 1/9
Page No 48
Parish/Chapel Ruardean

1841
James Horlick abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean Gloucestershire Harness Maker
Priscilla Horlick abt 1818 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean Gloucestershire
John Griffiths Horlick abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean Gloucestershire

Year 1844
Month Mar
Day 13
Surname HORLICK
Forename(s) John Griffiths
Place of Residence Ruardeane
Age at death 4 years
Officiating Minister Henry Formby
Event Burial
Cause of death
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P275 IN 1/12
Page No 109
Parish/Chapel Ruardean

1851
James Horlick abt 1810 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean Gloucestershire
Priscilla Horlick abt 1816 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ruardean Gloucestershire
James Horlick abt 1844 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean Gloucestershire
Peter Horlick abt 1842 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean Gloucestershire
William Horlick abt 1846 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean Gloucestershire

William HORLICKFeb 23rd 1846 - 1936
food manufacturer, philanthropist, b. Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England.

He was educated in private schools, served several years as an apprenticed harness maker, and in 1869 migrated to the U.S. and to Wisconsin, where he settled in Racine. In 1873 he moved to Chicago where, with his brother, James, he began the manufacture of food products.

The brothers came from a family of nine children in Ruardean where their [grand] father [?] John was minister of the non conformist chapel between 1801 and 1861.

In 1876, when the company moved to Racine, William Horlick began to experiment with the possibility of creating a dried-milk product. In 1887 his efforts succeeded when he produced dried milk combined with an extract of malted barley and wheat; the product was registered under the trademark of Malted Milk. The success of this product, which reduced milk to a powdered form that could be easily stored and transported, gave Horlick a national and world market.

In 1889 a branch of the company was opened under James Horlick in New York City, and in 1890 a branch was established in England. New plants, constructed at Racine in 1902 and 1905, reflected William's taste for English architectural style. In 1906 the firm name was changed from Horlick's Food Co. to Horlick's Malted Milk Co., with William Horlick serving as treasurer until his brother's death in 1921, at which time he became president.

The success of the company enabled William Horlick to achieve a widespread reputation as a philanthropist in the Racine area, and he also contributed financially to the first Byrd expedition to the South Pole and the Amundsen expedition to the North Pole.

COWLEY Manor near Cheltenham was from 1895 to 1928 home to James Horlick, co-founder with his brother William of the Horlicks Malted Milk Company.

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James Horlick married into my Burford family. He married Margaret Adelaide Burford in 1873. The children I have so far for them are :Ernest Burford Horlick,James Nockells Horlick,Gerald Nolekin Horlick. I'd be interested to know if there is any other info about Mr Nockells around. I now have the Nockells name linked to my Burford family in Stratford Essex, London & Pendle Hill Lancs, along with the Horlick links. I'm guessing he must have been a firm family favourite for some reason or another.

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I'm guessing he must have been a firm family favourite for some reason or another.

NOCKELS seems to be mother in law's maiden name !

Name: Ellen Adelaide Noleken
Name: William Burford
Year of Registration: 1846
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Leicester (1837-1974)
County: Leicestershire
Volume: 15
Page: 175

1851
William Benford abt 1813 Stratford, Essex, England Head Leicester St Margaret, Leicestershire
Ellen Benford abt 1819 Bloomsbury, London, England Wife Leicester St Margaret, Leicestershire
Ernest Benford abt 1848 St Stephen, London, England Son Leicester St Margaret, Leicestershire
Margaret Benford abt 1850 Leicestershire, England Daughter Leicester St Margaret, Leicestershire
Elizabeth Noleken abt 1795 Maskyate Street, Hertfordshire, England Mother-in-law Leicester St Margaret, Leicestershire

Markyate, Hertfordhire had a number of former names, including Markyate Street and Mergyate,

1861
William Burford abt 1813 Stratford, Essex, England Head Leicester St Margaret, Leicestershire
Ellen A Burford abt 1820 London, England Wife Leicester St Margaret, Leicestershire
Alice Burford abt 1855 Leicestershire, England Daughter Leicester St Margaret, Leicestershire
Arthur Burford abt 1859 Leicestershire, England Son Leicester St Margaret, Leicestershire
Ellen Burford abt 1852 Leicestershire, England Daughter Leicester St Margaret, Leicestershire
George Burford abt 1853 Leicestershire, England Son Leicester St Margaret, Leicestershire
Margaret Burford abt 1851 Leicestershire, England Daughter Leicester St Margaret, Leicestershire
William E Burford abt 1848 London, England Son Leicester St Margaret, Leicestershire
Elizabeth Woleken abt 1793 Hertfordshire, England Mother-in-law Leicester St Margaret, Leicestershire

1871
James Horlick abt 1845 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Servant St James Westminster, London

Name: Margaret Adelaide Burford
Name: James Horlick
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Westminster (1870-1913)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 794

1881 in the States

1891
James Horlick abt 1845 Gloster Ruardon W Mitcheldene Head Barnes, Surrey
May?? A Horlick abt 1852 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Wife Barnes, Surrey
Ernest B Horlick abt 1880 Wisconsin, United States Son Barnes, Surrey
Gerald N Horlick abt 1888 Brooklys N T, United States Son Barnes, Surrey
James N Horlick abt 1886 Brooklys N T, United States Son Barnes, Surrey
Ellen A Burford abt 1821 London, Middlesex, England Mother-in-law Barnes, Surrey
Eller J Burford abt 1854 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Sister-in-law Barnes, Surrey

1901 Queens Hotel
James Horlick abt 1845 Visitor Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Ernest B Horlick abt 1880 United States Visitor Cheltenham, Gloucestershire

1901
Gerald Horlick abt 1888 Boston, United States Boarder Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire

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wow thanks for all this information. Its the Nockells bit that has me the most frustrated at the moment I had pieced together where the Nolekens name came into it & of course the Burford name but cant seem to track down a direct link with the surname of Nockells. Its such an unusual name & I have spotted it in a couple of co-incidental bits e.g A Mr Nockells was a cloth factor in London to John Bury's company who was the brother in law of John Burford. There is also a William Nockells a coal merchant and Oxalic Acid Manufacturer, and my Burford's are also living in Stratford. So as you can see its interesting the name then turns up again with the James Horlick whose mother is a Burford

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Hi Elizabeth Noleken place of birth on the 1851 census is Markygate,which is near St Albans.

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Name: HORLICK, GERALD NOLEKIN
Initials: G N
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Major
Regiment/Service: Royal Gloucestershire Hussars
Secondary Unit Text: (E.E.F.).
Age: 30
Date of Death: 05/07/1918
Awards: Mentioned in Despatches
Additional information: Son of Sir James and Lady Horlick, of Cowley Manor, Glos.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: B. 67.
Cemetery: ALEXANDRIA (HADRA) WAR MEMORIAL CEMETERY

more details --> http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=18876

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Hello Carol

I have to ask this, although you may not be the person I think. Are you the Carol Griffiths who moved from Exeter to Sunderland? My roots are in the Forest of Dean. The whole of my family and my husband are Foresters.

By the way I went to school with Michael Horlicks and knew his father, George. I believe they are related to the above family.

Look forward to a reply.

Regards

Margaret Baldwin

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