James VAUGHAN 1770 Tidenham (General)
by bill pine, Monday, October 06, 2008, 02:39 (5903 days ago)
Hello,
I'm looking for any information on James Vaughan, born about 1770 in Tidenham. Can anybody help?.
I've found him on the 1851 Wales census: Class: HO107; Piece: 2443; Folio: 487; Page: 4; GSU roll: 104180. James is living together with his granddaughter Charlotte. He died in Chepstow? workhouse and was buried 4 Mar 1853 in Tidenham (record on this site).
He married Elizabeth (pprobably Hoskins - record on this site).
Thanks,
BP.
James VAUGHAN 1770 Tidenham
by hawdon , Alcossebre Spain, Monday, October 06, 2008, 07:04 (5903 days ago) @ bill pine
Hi Bill
How sure are you of James Vaughan being born at Tidenham. I have a James Vaughan born 1767 baptised 1771 at Newent who married an Elizabeth Beal.
Parents George and Nancy.
Dave
James VAUGHAN 1770 Tidenham
by bill pine, Monday, October 06, 2008, 08:12 (5903 days ago) @ hawdon
Tidenham as place of birth is based on this 1851 census return. Unfortunately I haven't yet found him family on the 1841 census.
It is a long shot - but Robert Vaughan b 1749 Woolaston and Elizabeth (Hoskins) had a son James baptised in Tidenham 25th March 1770, whereas Nancy & George's son James was baptised 31 Dec 1771 in Newent. What do you think? Have you got a clear connection between James and George & Nancy?
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1851 Wales Census
Name: James Vaughn
Age: 84
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1767
Relation: Grandfather, Grandpa (Grandfather)
Gender: Male
Where born: Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish or Township: Woolaston
Ecclesiastical parish: Upper Hamlet
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Thomas Jones 34
Charlotte Jones 33
Janes Jones 8
Eliza Jones 2
Elma E Jones 1
1851 Wales census: Class: HO107; Piece: 2443; Folio: 487; Page: 4; GSU roll: 104180.
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James VAUGHAN 1770 Tidenham
by hawdon , Alcossebre Spain, Monday, October 06, 2008, 09:35 (5903 days ago) @ bill pine
Hi Bill
This is what I have
BAPTISM DETAILS:-
Record_ID: 69964 Entry_Number: 291
Year: 1771 Month: Dec Day: 31
Parents_Surname: VAUGHAN
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: George
Mothers_Forenames: Nancy
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: Robert Foley D D Vicar John Foley Curate A M John
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P225 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 8
Parish_Chapel: Newent
Soundex: V250
MARRIAGE DETAILS:-
Record_ID: 42696 Entry Number:
Year: 1794 Month: Sep Day: 21
Groom Surname: VAUGHAN
Groom Forenames: James
Groom Age at Marriage:
Groom condition: Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession:
Groom Residence: Woolaston
Groom Father's Surname:
Groom Father's Forenames:
Groom Father's Rank or Profession:
Bride Surname: BEAL
Bride Forenames: Elizabeth
Bride Age at Marriage:
Bride Condition: Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession:
Bride Residence: Woolaston
Bride Father's Surname:
Bride Father's Forenames:
Bride Father's Rank or Profession:
Licence or Banns: Banns
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: Both mark
Witness 1: Mark of Abraham Thomas
Witness 2: Mark of Ann Vaughan
Other witnesses:
Officiating Minister: W. H. Jane (Curate)
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P376 IN 1/6 Page No: 36
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston
Soundex Groom: V250 Soundex Bride: B400
My James Vaughan had a sister Ann Vaughan (Note witness 2)
James and Elizabeth had a son William Vaughan:-
MARRIAGE DETAILS:-
record_id 17437 Entry Number 41
Year 1818 Month Dec Day 29
Groom Surname VAUGHAN
Groom Forename(s) William
Groom Age at Marriage
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession
Groom Residence of this parish
Groom Father's Surname
Groom Father's Forename(s)
Groom Father's Rank or Profession
Bride Surname EVANS
Bride Forename(s) Mary Anne
Bride Age at Marriage
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession
Bride Residence of this parish
Bride Father's Surname
Bride Father's Forename(s)
Bride Father's Rank or Profession
Licence or Banns Banns
Date of banns
Signature or Mark Both mark
Witness 1 Mark of James Vaughan
Witness 2 Mark of Jane Evans
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister Thos Thomas Vicar
Event type Marriage
Memoranda
Transcriber's Notes
Register Reference P333/1 IN 1/7 Page No 14
Parish/Chapel Tidenham
Soundex Groom V250 Soundex Bride E152
William and Mary had a daughter Charlotte:-
BAPTISM DETAILS:-
record_id 60699 Entry Number 171
Year 1819 Month Mar Day 28
Parents Surname VAUGHAN
Child Forename(s) Charlotte
Father's Forename(s) William
Mother's Forename(s) Mary
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Tidenham
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister Tho[mas] Thomas
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P333/1 IN 1/3 Page No 22
Parish/Chapel Tidenham
Soundex V250
Let me know what you think.
Dave
James VAUGHAN 1770 Tidenham
by bill pine, Monday, October 06, 2008, 10:18 (5903 days ago) @ hawdon
Hi Dave,
I also have James as married to Elizabeth Beal. We are dealing with the same person. The question is, who were his parents.
I haven't been able to find a satisfactory way of linking James to either Nancy & George, or Robert & Elizabeth. I decided on Robert & Elizabeth as parents due to James' birth (1851Census) and baptism (LDS C057771) in Tidenham. Unfortunately there is far more information on George & Nancy on this site than Robert & Elizabeth! But until we manage to rule out one or the other...
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IGI C057771
JAMES VAUGHAN
Male
Event(s):Birth:
Christening: 25 MAR 1770 Tidenham, Gloucester, England
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: ROBERT VAUGHAN
Mother: ELIZABETH
Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C057771
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Whereas James Vaughan, son of George & Nancy
Record_ID: 69964
Entry_Number: 291
Year: 1771
Month: Dec
Day: 31
Parents_Surname: VAUGHAN
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: George
Mothers_Forenames: Nancy
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: Robert Foley D D Vicar John Foley Curate A M John
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P225 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 8
Parish_Chapel: Newent
James VAUGHAN 1770 Tidenham Census lookup
by bill pine, Tuesday, October 07, 2008, 06:31 (5902 days ago) @ bill pine
Could somebody look up James Vaughan & Elizabeth on the 1841 Census please?
Piece 369/6 - Box 3A - Folio 8
VAUGHN James 70 WOOLASTON 3A 369/6 8
VAUGHN Elizabeth 70 WOOLASTON 3A 369/6 8
Thanks,
BP.
James VAUGHAN 1770 Tidenham
by hawdon , Alcossebre Spain, Tuesday, October 07, 2008, 07:17 (5902 days ago) @ bill pine
Hi Bill
Not sure if this is them but in the 1841 Wales census there is a James and Elizabeth living in Llangynider Brecon with the Griffiths family.
Name: James Vaughan
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1771
Gender: Male
Where born: Breconshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Llangynider
Hundred: Crickhowell
County/Island: Breconshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View Image
Occupation: View Image
Registration district: Crickhowell
Sub registration district: Llangunider
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Name
Thos Griffiths 35
Elinor Griffiths 27
Mary Griffiths 4
John Griffiths 3
James Vaughan 70
Elizabeth Vaughan 71
Even though it says Where born:- Breconshire, the census form is so faint that I cannot read if they were born in Breconshire or not. I think not.
Dave
James VAUGHAN 1770 Tidenham
by hawdon , Alcossebre Spain, Tuesday, October 07, 2008, 07:19 (5902 days ago) @ hawdon
Hi again Bill.
Forgot to say that I have looked at all the combinations of James and Elzabeth Vaughan, including different spelling, and that is the only one that seemed close.
Dave
James VAUGHAN 1770 Tidenham Census lookup
by unknown, Tuesday, October 07, 2008, 22:24 (5901 days ago) @ bill pine
Hi Bill,
I think this may be the couple we are looking for although they have been transcribed as Banine looking at the original it could be Vaughn.
1841
Name: James Banine
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1771
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Wollastone
Hundred: Westbury
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Chepstow
Sub registration district: Lydney
Household Members:
James Banine 70
Elizabeth Banine 70
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 369; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Woolastone; County: Gloucestershire; Enumeration District: 8; Folio: 8; Page: 9; Line: 19; GSU roll: 288780.
Helen
James VAUGHAN 1770 Tidenham Census lookup
by bill pine, Tuesday, October 07, 2008, 23:32 (5901 days ago) @ unknown
Hi Hellen,
thanks for that, yes I think it is quite clear on the census copy that his name is not Banine ... it looks more like Vaugn to me (Vaughan on this site's transcription).
good news,
BP.