William READ who was married to Esther PHILLIPS (General)
I am trying to trace back from William READ who was married to Esther PHILLIPS, they were married on the 9th of March 1868 at St Johns church in the parish of St Johns dean parish,the certificate states that his father was David READ it states that william was 21 years of age at the time of marriage so that would put him being born in about 1847
Looking at the 1861 Census:
David Read head 34
Caroline wife 33
Sarah ann daughter 15
William son 14
David son 8
Alfrd Son 6
Enoch son 4
William READS age seem about right plus with what seems to be the correct father?
What i need to know is David READ the son of Richard READ & Sarah TINGLE?
Also i cannot find any marriage entry for David and Caroline READ i would be very interested in finding out her surname??
I would be most grateful for any help or feedback on this matter..
Thanks :)
David READ 1825 Ruardean Hill
by slowhands 
, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, October 17, 2008, 19:49 (5892 days ago) @ anvil58
Year: 1806
Month: May
Day: 9
Grooms_Surname: READ
Grooms_Forenames: Richard
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence:
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: TINGLE
Brides_Forenames: Sarah
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Extra Parochial
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both marked
Witness_1: Sarah DREW
Witness_2: James TINGLE
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: J H BEESTON - minister
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 0
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean
Year: 1825
Month: Aug
Day: 7
Parents_Surname: READ
Child_Forenames: David
Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Ruardean Hill
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: A. Scholding
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 58
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Year: 1830
Month: Jun
Day: 20
Surname: REED
Forenames: Richard
Residence: Ruardean Hill
Age_at_death: 55 years
Officiating_Minister: W.H.Hill
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes: Burial details 8th row
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/11
Page_No: 21
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
1841
Sarah Read abt 1779 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
David Read abt 1827 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Selina Jordon abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
1851 nr Cock Pickers / Hasely Tump {Hawthorns / Drybrook}
David Read abt 1826 Dean; Forest, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Caroline Read abt 1827 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Read abt 1850 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Ann Read abt 1846 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Read abt 1847 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elijah Read abt 1814 Dean; Forest, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Eliza Read abt 1823 Dean; Forest, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Selina Ann Read abt 1850 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
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Richard READ 1775 Ruardean Hill
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, October 17, 2008, 19:52 (5892 days ago) @ slowhands
Year: 1760
Month: Aug
Day: 26
Grooms_Surname: REED
Grooms_Forenames: Francis
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence:
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: STEPHENS
Brides_Forenames: Jane
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Hundred of St Braivels
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns Called 27
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both marked
Witness_1: ?? Harper (MARK)
Witness_2: Joseph HARPER
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Rees DAVIES - curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 36
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean
Year: 1775
Month: Dec
Day: 10
Parents_Surname: READ
Child_Forenames: Richard
Fathers_Forenames: Francis
Mothers_Forenames: Jane
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 38
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean
Over to Jim !
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=9316#p9346
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Richard READ 1775 Ruardean Hill
by jimashton , Sunday, October 19, 2008, 01:35 (5890 days ago) @ slowhands
Hi Slowhands and Anvil58
As ever when slowhands gets to work on a posting, I gain some more information, in this case adding some census and baptism detail I didn't have previously. I cannot add much except that as per the detail I submitted to the posting that Slowhands has provided a link to; the parents of Francis Read 1730/1783 who married Jane Stephens were Francis Read & Margaret. They had 11 children, Margaret 1722, Anne 1724, John 1726, Jane 1728, Francis 1730, James 1732, William 1735, Elizabeth 1737, Richard 1741/1742, Richard 1743.
Of these children I have links from Francis 1730 as per this posting, James 1732 who married my 1st cousin 7 times removed Sarah Meek. Richard 1743 who married Margaret, they had 3 children John 1783, George 1785 & James 1788. Son George 1785 married Ann Brown which started the name variation Read Brown, Brown Read & just incorrectly Brown. They had Richard 1814 & George 1828, there are no doubt more but I haven't found them. Richard 1814 was born Dudley, Staffs which may be why I haven't found more, he married Fanny Dubberly and had 9 children and I have links from many of them. George 1828 married Jane Tingle and had 11 children but I only have links (so far) from daughter Elizabeth 1850 who married James Bennett.
Jim Ashton
Richard READ 1815 Staffordshire
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, October 19, 2008, 01:55 (5890 days ago) @ jimashton
Jim
I wonder if this is your Richard ( future husband of Fanny D) or the one who shows in 1851 as married to a Sarah in Wolverhampton ?
RICHARD READ
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 23 APR 1815 Saint Peter Or Collegiate, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
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Parents:
Father: RICHARD READ
Mother: MARY
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or
christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C010203 1813 0497360 Film 0883742 Film
C010203 1814 - 1818 0497361 Film NONE
C010203 1819 - 1822 0497362 Film NONE
C010203 1823 - 1825 0497363 Film NONE
C010203 1826 - 1828 0497364 Film NONE
C010203 1829 - 1844 0497365 Film NONE
Sheet: 00
Year: 1837
Month: Aug
Day: 26
Grooms_Surname: BROWN
Grooms_Forenames: Richard Reid
Grooms_Age: Of Full Age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Ruardean Woodside
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: [illegible]
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: [illegible]
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [illegible]
Brides_Surname: DUBERLEY
Brides_Forenames: Fanny
Brides_Age: Of Full Age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Ruardean Woodside
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Duberley
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: William Knight
Witness_2: Elizabeth Read
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: John Chell
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/10
Page_Number: 2
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean
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Richard READ 1815 Staffordshire
by jimashton , Monday, October 20, 2008, 01:26 (5889 days ago) @ slowhands
Thanks Slowhands, but no. the parents of Richard Read who married Fanny Duberley are George Read & Ann Brown I have the marriage certificate.
Jim Ashton
Richard READ 1775 Ruardean Hill
Hello Jim Ashton,
Thank you for that information, Thanks to Slowhands and yourself i have learned so much, i wish that i found this site a lot sooner'
I shall be sure to add Francis and Margaret to the list.
I wonder were down the line that Sarah TINGLE and Jane TINGLE are relatd?.
What first interested me in Ancestry was a surname my mother mentioned that belonged on her mothers side who i knew came from Cheltenham but i was very surprised to learn that my grandfather's side originated from the Forest of Dean, having had a few very enjoyable holiday's at whats now Bracelands camping site along with my parents and grandparents i now often wonder if my grandfather ever knew this was where is roots were for it was a surprise to my my mother and her siblings when i mentioned it to them.
Thanks again for the information :)
Richard READ 1775 Ruardean Hill
by jimashton , Monday, October 20, 2008, 01:35 (5889 days ago) @ anvil58
Hi Anvil
It is quite possible that Sarah & Jane Tingle are related. It is for this reason I usually add siblings and parents of spouses to my family tree as subsequent information can sometimes prove a relationship with these connected people.
As slowhands has documented, the parents of Sarah Tingle 1780 are James Tingle and Ann. The parents of Jane Tingle 1828 were William Tingle and Elizabeth.
Jim Ashton
Richard READ 1775 Ruardean Hill
Hello Jim Ashton,
Thank you for the Tingle names it will be interesting finding out how they link up together.
About adding the rest of the family to the tree,yes i never thought about the benefits before you mentioned it,i shall do the same thing myself in time..
What i'm interested in knowing,is when looking through the ancesters in the parish records at what point are you satisfied that a portion of the puzzle fits? for instance: I have Caroline HARRIS with parents William Harris and his wife Lydia,after searching the records my gut feeling tells me that Lydia was a JORDAN before becoming the HARRIS in my family tree but i'm not sure though this record looks the likely candidate to me????
It's the same with Caleb PERKINS,when i searched the records i had no luck but when i used the soundex the name CALIB appeared along with parents Jonathan and Eliz who were in CLEARWELL the dates seem possible but yet again i'm not one hundred per cent sure? so what am i missing??? as you can guess i'm fairly new to all this :)
Thanks for the input :)
Richard READ 1775 Ruardean Hill
by jimashton , Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 00:34 (5887 days ago) @ anvil58
In the case of Caroline Harris and David Read, you are lucky that the marriage has taken place after 1837, therefore you can apply for a certificate, based upon the information that Slowhands has provided, this will confirm her fathers name and occupation, then look at the 1841 Census, using the fathers name. You may get lucky and have mother in law living with them or you may find the witness names at the marriage revealing.
Jim Ashton
Richard READ 1775 Ruardean Hill
by bexxi , Sunday, October 26, 2008, 04:42 (5883 days ago) @ anvil58
Hello!
Just a note on the JORDAN issue: there is certainly an 1821 Newland marriage for William HARRIS and Lydia JORDAN, and there are two 1826 English Bicknor burials for the name Lydia HARRIS: one aged 26 (April), the other 6 months (September). See therefore also the 1800 English Bicknor baptism for Lydia Jordan, daughter of Richard and Mary.
I can give you a bit more detail on this family if you'd like.
Best,
Rebecca
Richard READ 1775 Ruardean Hill
hi Rebecca,
I would be very grateful to hear what ever details that you have,and thank you for getting in touch.
A jones
Richard READ 1775 Ruardean Hill
by bexxi , Monday, November 10, 2008, 23:49 (5867 days ago) @ anvil58
Sorry - I got sidetracked and forgot about this :( I will contact you later today or tomorrow when I can send you the material from my home computer.
Rebecca
Sarah TINGLE 1780
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, October 17, 2008, 20:18 (5892 days ago) @ slowhands
: 1780
Month: May
Day: 19
Parents_Surname: TINGLE
Child_Forenames: Sarah
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Newnham
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P228 IN 1/3
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Newnham
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Sarah TINGLE 1780
by arriano , Monday, November 10, 2008, 13:52 (5868 days ago) @ slowhands
Am I safe to presume that the Ann, wife of James and mother of Sarah, was Ann Drew who married James Tingle on 5 Feb. 1780 at Littledean?
Sarah TINGLE 1780
Hello Arriano,
Yes thats the conclusion that i have come to, it does look like Ann Drew was Sarah's mother.
Is there a connection??
Best Regards.
A jones
Sarah TINGLE 1780
by arriano , Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 05:46 (5867 days ago) @ anvil58
Excellent. Well, that takes me back a couple of more generations. I think that James Tingle who married Ann Drew is the son of James Tingle and Sarah Hobbs.
David READ m Caroline HARRIS
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, October 17, 2008, 19:59 (5892 days ago) @ anvil58
Name: Caroline Harris
Name: David Reed
Year of Registration: 1845
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Ross
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 26
Page: 291
candidate
Year: 1823
Month: Nov
Day: 23
Parents_Surname: HARRIS
Child_Forenames: Caroline
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Lydia
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Lidbrook [Lydbrook]
Occupation: Forgeman
Officiating_Minister: T. D. Fosbroke Min[iste]r
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: daughter of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 44
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean
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