Edward John MILLER St. Briavels, Gloucestershire born a1846 (General)

by lewis.mc, Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 08:01 (5895 days ago)

I am searching for any possible information relating to Edward John MILLER my great grandfather, reputed to have been born in St. Briavels, Gloucestershire about 1846. Family work undertaken on a predominantly London based family tree (which seems to be generally reliable) says he moved from St.Briavels at an early age to Kentish Town, then Islington, dying before September 1929 at Drayton Park, Middlesex.

I can find no trace of him in Parish records or census, so am beginning to wonder if this was speculation rather than their being any source. Would be very grateful for any suggestions of how to proceed to establish if there is a St.Briavels connection.

Many thanks

Matthew

Edward John MILLER born a1846

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 09:49 (5895 days ago) @ lewis.mc

death ?
Edward MILLER
Age 83
July- September Quarter 1929
Epsom
Vol 2a
Page 57

Is it possible that his birth was not registered in Gloucestershire but in London when he moved at a young age, or is it just confusion that his mother is a Forester ?

1851
Edward Miller abt 1816 Kingston, Surrey, England Head St Marylebone, Middlesex
Dorothea Miller abt 1826 St Edmunds, Gloucestershire, England Wife St Marylebone, Middlesex
Edward Miller abt 1847 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Son St Marylebone, Middlesex
Mary Miller abt 1850 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Daughter St Marylebone, Middlesex

1861 14 Howell St
Edward Miller abt 1816 Kingston, Surrey, England Head Paddington, Middlesex Bus driver
Dorothea Miller abt 1825 St Breavels, Gloucestershire, England Wife Paddington, Middlesex
Edward J Miller abt 1847 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Son Paddington, Middlesex
Charles Miller abt 1859 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Son Paddington, Middlesex
George W Miller abt 1852 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Son Paddington, Middlesex
Louisa Miller abt 1856 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Daughter Paddington, Middlesex
Mary H Miller abt 1850 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Daughter Paddington, Middlesex
John Miller abt 1797 Hemmingtone, Suffolk, England Father Paddington, Middlesex

Marriage
Name: Edward John Miller ??
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: London City
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 20


1881 18 Durnford Tce
Edwd.J. Miller . abt 1847 London, London, Middlesex, England Head St Pancras, London Horsekeeper
Ellen C. Miller abt 1854 London, London, Middlesex, England Wife St Pancras, London
C.H. Miller . abt 1876 St Pancras Son St Pancras, London
Edw.J. Miller abt 1874 St Pancras Son St Pancras, London
Eliza A. Miller abt 1880 St Pancras Daughter St Pancras, London
George Miller abt 1878 St Pancras Son St Pancras, London


1891
Ed Jno Miller abt 1855 Marylebone, London, England Head Islington, London Ostler
Ellen P Miller abt 1855 Lambeth, London, England Wife Islington, London
Chas Hy Miller abt 1876 Kentish Town, London, England Son Islington, London
Edgar Miller abt 1874 Kentish Town, London, England Son Islington, London
Edith M Miller abt 1890 Islington, London, England Daughter Islington, London
Eliz E Miller abt 1889 Islington, London, England Daughter Islington, London
Ellen A Miller abt 1880 Kentish Town, London, England Daughter Islington, London
George Miller abt 1878 Kentish Town, London, England Son Islington, London
James F Miller abt 1882 Islington, London, England Son Islington, London
Richd A Miller abt 1884 Islington, London, England Son Islington, London
Same Jno Miller abt 1887 Islington, London, England Son Islington, London


1901
Edward J Miller abt 1848 Marylebone, London, England Head Islington, London Horsekeeper
Ellen J Miller abt 1854 Lambeth, London, England Wife Islington, London
Elizabeth Miller abt 1889 Islington, London, England Daughter Islington, London
Emily Millerabt 1892 Islington, London, England Daughter Islington, London
Maud Miller abt 1900 Islington, London, England Daughter Islington, London
Richard A Miller abt 1882 Islington, London, England Son Islington, London
Rose Miller abt 1894 Islington, London, England Daughter Islington, London
Samuel Miller abt 1887 Islington, London, England Son Islington, London

Elizabeth Miller abt 1880 Islington, London, England Wife Islington, London
James Miller abt 1881 Islington, London, England Head Islington, London
Ellen Miller abt 1898 Islington, London, England Daughter Islington, London

main suspect

Name: Edward John Miller
Year of Registration: 1846
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Marylebone (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1
Page: 208

Parents marriage
Name: Dorothea Miller (from St Briavels)
Name: Edward Miller
Year of Registration: 1845
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Marylebone (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1
Page: 261


other suspects

Name: Edward Miller
Year of Registration: 1848
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Pancras (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1
Page: 308


Name: Edward Miller
Year of Registration: 1846
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: (Illegible)
Page: 1_7

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Edward John MILLER born a1846

by shepway @, Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 10:02 (5895 days ago) @ slowhands

From FreeBMD:
Marriages Dec 1845
MILLER Dorothea Marylebone 1 261
MILLER Edward Marylebone 1 261

Births Dec 1846
Miller Edward John Marylebone 1 208

Dorothea's Baptism:
Year: 1825
Month: Jan
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: MILLER
Child_Forenames: Dorothea
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Hannah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: St Briavels
Occupation: Publican
Officiating_Minister: Walter Henry Hill Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P278 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 40
Parish_Chapel: St Briavels

Mike

Dorothea MILLER 1825 - 1861 St Briavels

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 10:05 (5895 days ago) @ slowhands

Year: 1825
Month: Jan
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: MILLER
Child_Forenames: Dorothea
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Hannah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: St Briavels
Occupation: Publican
Officiating_Minister: Walter Henry Hill Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P278 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 40
Parish_Chapel: St Briavels

Name: Dorothea Miller ??
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Kensington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 2

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Dorothea MILLER 1821 - 1824 St Briavels

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 21:38 (5894 days ago) @ slowhands

Year: 1824
Month: Jul
Day: 13
Surname: MILLER
Forenames: Dorothea
Residence: St Briavels
Age_at_death: 3 years
Officiating_Minister: Walter Henry Hill Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P278 IN 1/19
Page_No: 23
Parish_Chapel: St Briavels

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Charles MILLER 1823 - 1823 St Briavels

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 21:38 (5894 days ago) @ slowhands

Year: 1823
Month: May
Day: 4
Parents_Surname: MILLER
Child_Forenames: Charles
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Hannah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: St Briavels
Occupation: Innkeeeper
Officiating_Minister: Charles D.Blyth Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P278 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 33
Parish_Chapel: St Briavels


Year: 1823
Month: Nov
Day: 24
Surname: MILLER
Forenames: Charles
Residence: St Briavels
Age_at_death: 7 months
Officiating_Minister: James Dighton Officiating Minister
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P278 IN 1/19
Page_No: 21
Parish_Chapel: St Briavels

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Hannah MILLER nee ? 1787 Hewelsfield

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 21:53 (5894 days ago) @ slowhands

at last a reason for being in the Forest and then London - Coal !!!


1851
John Miller abt 1795 Hemmingston, Suffolk, England Head St Marylebone, Middlesex Coal dealer
Hannah Miller abt 1787 Hudsfield, Gloucestershire, England Wife St Marylebone, Middlesex

1861 see prior entry for Edward John his son
John Miller abt 1797 Hemmingtone, Suffolk, England Father Paddington, Middlesex

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Hannah MILLER nee ? 1787 Hewelsfield

by jaj, Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 23:57 (5894 days ago) @ slowhands

Slowhands, Hannah is probably Hannah Godwin, daughter of Richard Godwin and Mary Jones, baptised 26 Dec 1783 St Briavels. In Richard Godwin's will he bequeaths a sum of money to his daughter Hannah Miller Wife of John Miller.

Hannah MILLER nee Godwin 1783 Hewelsfield

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, October 23, 2008, 01:17 (5894 days ago) @ jaj

<good call ! >

Year: 1783
Month: Dec
Day: 26
Parents_Surname: GODWIN
Child_Forenames: Hannah
Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Tho[ma]s Edmunds Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P278 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 5
Parish_Chapel: St Briavels

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Hannah MILLER nee ? 1787 Hewelsfield

by odoorn keith, Saturday, February 13, 2010, 11:09 (5416 days ago) @ jaj

jaj,

do you have a date for Richard Godwin's will ?

Edward James MILLER 1873 Chalk Farm

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 20:39 (5894 days ago) @ slowhands

this "feels" like the son of Edward John....


Chalk Farm is OK for Kentish Town / Campden

Name: Edward James Miller
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Pancras (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 170

Name:Selina Burk
Name: Edward James Miller
Year of Registration: 1894
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Islington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 476


1901
Edward Miller abt 1874 Chalk Farm, London, England Head Islington, London
Selina Miller abt 1874 Marylebone, London, England Wife Islington, London
Dorothy Miller abt 1899 Islington, London, England Daughter Islington, London
Edward Miller abt 1900 Islington, London, England Son Islington, London
May Miller abt 1897 Islington, London, England Daughter Islington, London

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Edward James MILLER 1873 Chalk Farm

by lewis.mc, Thursday, October 23, 2008, 08:55 (5894 days ago) @ slowhands

Your collective input is much appreciated, I have yet to analyse in detail, but fits what I know. Edward MILLER married Ellen Patience Jakeman ELLIS 1873 and had 12 offspring which match your census records.

Only query I have is Dorothea MILLER same surname as husband Edward MILLER? Just a coincidence?

Matthew

MILLER marries MILLER

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, October 23, 2008, 09:32 (5894 days ago) @ lewis.mc

Dorothea MILLER same surname as husband Edward MILLER?

Just a coincidence is the way it seems at the moment :-)

Name: Dorothea Miller
Name: Edward Miller
Year of Registration: 1845
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Marylebone (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1
Page: 261

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Edward John MILLER St. Briavels, Gloucestershire born a1846

by odoorn keith, Thursday, February 11, 2010, 18:26 (5417 days ago) @ lewis.mc

Matthew, thanks to Slowhands I've been linked to this forum question. It seems clear we are related through Great grandparents Edward John Miller and Ellen PJ Ellis. His son, George Miller, born 1877 is my grandfather. Is there some way we can compare trees? I wondering to which branch of the family you belong.

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