Thank you for looking at the IGI for me. Let me just say I am doing this research for someone on another message board but since she has not replied I may well stop - but I do enjoy it and tend to get the bit between my teeth!

I have found this family mainly as Joyner but the occasional Joiner does crop up. The reason I am looking at the Forest of Dean is because Reuben was said to be 'of Dean Hill' in a reference on Gazettes online and there is a Caroline Joynour who said she was born in the Forest of Dean when she appeared in Bath in 1851. I can't find her on any other census. There were at least three of Reuben's offspring living in Bath at the time plus his widow Mary Ann (Buttler) who he married as a widower. I suspect you are right and the Shropshire marriage was his.

Thank you so much for your help.
Colleen