The other Oliver HALE is from Lydbrook http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=8903

Name: Jane Watkins
Name: Oliver Hale
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1885
Registration district: Westbury On Severn
Registration county (inferred): Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 431

1891
Oliver Hale abt 1863 Cinderford Head Bradwell, Buckinghamshire
Jane Hale abt 1864 Cinderford Wife Bradwell, Buckinghamshire
Ernest E Hale abt 1887 New Bradwell, Buckinghamshire, England Son Bradwell, Buckinghamshire
Fredk C Hale abt 1888 New Bradwell, Buckinghamshire, England Son Bradwell, Buckinghamshire
Florence J Hale abt 1889 New Bradwell, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Bradwell, Buckinghamshire
Effie G Hale abt 1890 New Bradwell, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Bradwell, Buckinghamshire

1901
Oliver Hale abt 1863 Anderford, Gloucestershire, England Head Bradwell, Buckinghamshire
Jane Hale abt 1864 Anderford, Gloucestershire, England Wife Bradwell, Buckinghamshire
Ernest O Hale abt 1887 Stantonbury, Buckinghamshire, England Son Bradwell, Buckinghamshire
Fred Chas Hale abt 1888 Stantonbury, Buckinghamshire, England Son Bradwell, Buckinghamshire
Florence J Hale abt 1890 Stantonbury, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Bradwell, Buckinghamshire
Effie G Hale abt 1891 Stantonbury, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Bradwell, Buckinghamshire
Clifford Hale abt 1893 Stantonbury, Buckinghamshire, England Son Bradwell, Buckinghamshire
Frank Hale abt 1897 Stantonbury, Buckinghamshire, England Son Bradwell, Buckinghamshire

1911
HALE OLIVER M 1863 48 Newport Pagnell Buckinghamshire
HALE JANE F 1864 47 Newport Pagnell Buckinghamshire
HALE CLIFFORD M 1893 18 Newport Pagnell Buckinghamshire
HALE EFFIE GERTRUDE F 1891 20 Newport Pagnell Buckinghamshire
HALE ERNEST OLIVER M 1887 24 Newport Pagnell Buckinghamshire
HALE FLORENCE JENNY F 1890 21 Newport Pagnell Buckinghamshire
HALE FRANK M 1897 14 Newport Pagnell Buckinghamshire

Name: Jane Hale
Death Registration Month/Year: 1919
Age at death (estimated): 56 {inferred 1863}
Registration district: Newport Pagnell
Inferred County: Buckinghamshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 761

Name: Oliver Hale
Death Registration Month/Year: 1946
Age at death (estimated): 83 {inferred 1863}
Registration district: North Bucks
Inferred County: Buckinghamshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 1361

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1861
Charles Watkins abt 1828 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Watkins abt 1833 Camm, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Watkins abt 1855 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Watkins abt 1856 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Watkins abt 1860 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

1871
Charles Watkins 43
Mary Watkins 37
Emma Watkins 11
Martha Watkins 8
Jane Watkins 7
Mary A Watkins 5
Lucy Watkins 3
Frederick Watkins 10 Months

1881
Jane Watkins abt 1863 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Servant Cheltenham, Gloucestershire

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Assume the tree on Ancestry is yours, with a copy of the birth entry (written in The Pilgrims' progress 1817 i.e. James born at Woodside May 31 1841)

The 1841 census was taken on the night of 6 June 1841

District 13 (page 22 of 23)

The 1851 census on the Public Members Tree (date of census 30 March 1851 = James was age 10 + 2 months years by then)

DORRINGTON
Thomas - 52
Ann - 39
Susanna - 17
Sons, William 16, Milson 14, Sidney 12, James 9, Clara 6, Bertha 4, Ann 1, + William MATTHEWS 44, William MATTHEWS 14 and Dinah TINGLE 20

1841 Census, Woodside

DORRINGTON

Thomas 38 -
Ann - 29
Susannah - 8
William - 6
Milson - 5
Sydney - 2
Susannah SIMMONS 62 Independent - Not born in County
Susan - no surname given - (in the female column) 6 days - Listed on Ancestry as Susan SIMMONS - 6 days

Can also see from Public Members Tree - and written in the Pilgrim's progress - Susannah SIMMONS was the grandmother and died 29 December 1848.

which appears to be a possible cover-up???

If the Enumerator was quite local and if a neighbour he would know is Ann had been pregnant! Don't think Ann would have gone far with 4 children - so may be a local man ? Can't see the Enumerator's name for District 13 - had a quick look District 14 was William Bishop - handwriting may give a clue!

i.e. District 2 Enumerator was William HARRIS
11a - Thomas TEAGUE
12 - John BRAIN
14 - William BISHOP - think it could be him for District 13 the writing looks identical - the capital D's are the same - and Forrest has two 'rr's other Enumerators spell it with one r…. - used the word viz: each time - I've run the two off and compared and am sure William is the Enumerator.

and the Enumerator would have to write - therefore…..

1841 Census, District 13, same as the DORRINGTON's Page 7

William BISHOP - age 40 Accountant
Margaret BISHOP - 12

Ancestry: England & Wales non-conformist & non parochial - Gloucester Southgate Chapel Independnet

Margaret, Daughter of William & Mary Ann BISHOP living at Cinderford Iron Works in the Hundred of St Briavels in the County of Gloucester was born 23 November 1828 and baptised the 21 July 1929 signed Byrne …. BISHOP

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William Bishop is on the 'net' re: Cinderford Iron Company
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Only a DNA test on male decendents would see if James was Thomas'