1911 census tip! (update -all over now 4/2/09) (General)
by Simone 
, Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 05:28 (5851 days ago)
Just wanted to pass on this great tip courtesy of Gordon on the Liverpool boards :)
http://liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=60631#60631
To ascertain everyone in the same 1911 Census household for free :-
'Using the standard search function, find the person you want and refine the search criteria to eliminate the others so that only that one person is on the page. You can do this by use of age, gender, year, county, district, etc.
Once you have found the person and they are the ONLY one shown on the page, look at the URL and you will see that in the address is the word "results2" or "results4". Change the number to a 3 then hit enter to do the search again.
When the results are displayed, scroll to the bottom of the page and an address is shown. Now copy the address (including any errors) and go back to the "search" page. Remove EVERYTHING you had in previously, put a comma (or a full stop) in the surname box (it has to have something) and paste the address in to the RESIDENCE field and press "Search"
The search results should now include all persons in the household.'
Simone x
nb I have tried with a couple of people on initial search results,, works just as well, just gives you more than 1 address to look at...
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by robdavis , Friday, January 30, 2009, 05:47 (5849 days ago) @ Simone
Thanks Simone
Great tip for searching and I have had a fair bit of success with it. Still waiting for Monmouthshire to become available so that I can check my Forest relatives in the Chepstow district.
Have you noticed that the age range for searching has now been extended to +/- 3, 5 and 10? Much better.
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by Simone , Friday, January 30, 2009, 06:11 (5849 days ago) @ robdavis
Glad it's worked for you Rob :) it will be nice to see the images in the future, but just for now it has helped to know who was living with who.
Bet it won't be long before they cotton on and pull the plug!!
Yes I was pleased to see the age range extension!
Can't wait for Monmouthshire!!
Happy searching :)
Simone x
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by Ann , Cheltenham, Glos, Friday, January 30, 2009, 06:14 (5849 days ago) @ robdavis
Simone, this is amazing. I have had great success. When will they discover what we are up to!
I have found that it is best to search for an individual, by making a general search, unless your name is something like "Smith." Make a note of the spelling and the age. My own mother was born in 1907 but in the "1911" she was born 1908 and her name was spelt wrong (perhaps my grandfather had a problem with spelling etc.) Needless to say I couldn't understand why I was unable to find her on my initial specific search.
Thank you for sharing this, it has boosted my spirits no end!
Regards from Ann Sindrey.
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by Simone , Saturday, January 31, 2009, 00:24 (5848 days ago) @ Ann
So pleased for you Ann :) glad you found your mum. I too have found it easier to do a general search.. I can usually tell from the address then which will be the right one.. if not I just look at each address until I see the right family.
I have at last started to solve a mystery that has been bugging me... my great grandparents had a 2 year old child living with them in 1901, unrelated as far as I knew... couldn't understand at all who she was. I have now found her with her family in 1911 so will now be able to investigate that family back further to see who they were.
I was cursing originally thinking I would have to wait until I could afford to pay for the info... but now I know!
Simone x
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by Simone , Saturday, January 31, 2009, 00:29 (5848 days ago) @ Simone
Hi
Not sure this will count so much in FOD area but maybe if you have 'Mc' or 'Mac' relatives there or anywhere else and can't see them on the 1911. Instead of searcing, for example, McDougal.... search with a space after the 'c', i.e Mc Dougal..... they should then show..
Simone x
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by janger , Sunday, February 01, 2009, 10:45 (5847 days ago) @ Simone
I also agree what a great tip, I have had success with finding my fathers family, but other members of my family I can get as far as the address, but it will not allow me to go any further. Has any one had this problem
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by Simone , Monday, February 02, 2009, 04:57 (5846 days ago) @ janger
No sorry Janger not had that problem. I did hear, however, that some people were not transcribed, e.g some people who have paid to look at transcriptions and images have found that the head of a house may have been transcribed but not his wife, but when looked at image she is there.
Simone x
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by jimashton , Monday, February 02, 2009, 07:17 (5846 days ago) @ Simone
Simone
Brilliant, thanks a lot. I have obtained a few using this method. The detail is of course less than the transcript but is free !!
It is not easy to copy so will add my own tip. Use the "Screen Dump" principle, select Ctrl + "Print Screen" which will put the entire page in the clip board, now open up any photo imaging software and import the image, crop around the detail you need and save it. If you don't have photo imaging software try this free program :
Jim Ashton
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by Simone , Monday, February 02, 2009, 07:28 (5846 days ago) @ jimashton
Thanks Jim! Knew there must a way to do it:)
Simone x
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by cmfenton , Ferndown, Dorset, Monday, February 02, 2009, 09:01 (5846 days ago) @ jimashton
An alternative to this, is to place your cursor somewhere on the web page showing your search results - then do Ctrl + "A" followed by Ctrl + "C". This will select and copy the whole web page, including any results that you would need to scroll down to see. You can then paste (Ctrl + "V") your copied text into your favourite word processor (Open Office is a good free option).
In Open Office you can then copy the data from the table into a spreadsheet for further manipulation (I haven't tried this in Microsoft Office).
This can be useful if the limitations of the addresses recorded in the census mean you (like me) are looking at some of the 81 Meeks who lived in The Morse, Drybrook or the 84 who lived on Ruardean Hill.
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by jimashton , Tuesday, February 03, 2009, 05:32 (5845 days ago) @ Simone
Simone
I discovered a similar work around to Simone's tip in the early days of the 1901 Census, this involved recording the unique consecutive reference number for each person in the census (OK for a family that is not too large) the reference number was revealed when you hovered the mouse over the index entry. Once these consecutive reference numbers, together with name etc., were copied and pasted into Excel, you could sort the alphabetical list by the reference number and hey presto they were all sorted into households. The main point here is that when this trick had been discovered, it was stopped by the very simple means of keeping the reference number secret. My guess is that Simone's "Household" trick will be soon stopped, so make hay while the sun shines.
Jim Ashton
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by Simone , Tuesday, February 03, 2009, 23:52 (5844 days ago) @ jimashton
Hay making over I think Jim, it won't work for me anymore! rumbled,,,,,:(
Simone x