Death by accident on Wye Bridge 1929 (General)
by marywilliams , Chepstow, Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 07:49 (5831 days ago)
Hi, This is such a brilliant forum - I have had so much help. Now perhaps someone can help me again. I have Evelyn Mary Jones died aged 25 in an accident on the Wye Bridge in 1929. She left three or four young daughters who I think were brought up by their paternal grandmother. There was an inquest but the records have not been kept according to Gwent Record Office. I can find nothing about this accident anywhere. Does anyone know anything?
Mary
Death by accident on Wye Bridge 1929
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 08:33 (5831 days ago) @ marywilliams
Which Wye Bridge ?
From that knowledge I would recommend a local newspaper search around that time.
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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>
Death by accident on Wye Bridge 1929
by marywilliams , Chepstow, Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 08:46 (5831 days ago) @ slowhands
Sorry, the one at the bottom of Chepstow.
Would the newspapers be at Chepstow Library do you think? Did the FoD have a paper then? She was living in Tidenham with her husband Archibald Jones.
Mary
Death by accident on Wye Bridge 1929
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 09:46 (5831 days ago) @ marywilliams
http://www.bl.uk/reshelp/findhelprestype/catblhold/all/allcat.html
The British Library newspaper collection is a good start...
Forest Mercury or Lydney Observer were "probably" the local papers at the time
Evelyn M JONES
Age 25
Q2 1929
Chepstow
Vol 11a
Page 3
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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster & Hereford Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>
Death by accident on Wye Bridge 1929
by HarryBrook , Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 00:33 (5809 days ago) @ slowhands
I called in at Cinderford Library this morning hoping to solve this mystery in the Dean Forest Mercury/Lydney Observer. Unfortunately the microfilm for 1929 starts at July 5th. Slowhands posted that the death was registered in quarter 2, so, as inquests took place so quickly after the event then, unless the accident happened in the last week of June it would have been all done and dusted reportingwise by July. So a blank there I'm afraid.
Death by accident on Wye Bridge 1929
by Paul Andrews , Shropshire, England, Friday, May 08, 2015, 19:04 (3559 days ago) @ HarryBrook
Western Daily Press, Bristol, Saturday, April 6, 1929
HURLED TO DEATH IN THE WYE
Chepstow Bridge Fatality Caused by Bad Lighting
BROTHERS' BRAVERY
The recent fatal accident at the Gloucestershire approach to the Chepstow footbridge, where a woman was crushed against the railing by a motor-car and hurled into the River Wye, was investigated by Colonel Fothergill Evans and a jury at Chepstow yesterday. The deceased was Mrs Evelyn Jones, and it will be recalled that two brothers, Arthur and Norman James, risked their lives in an attempt to save the woman when they saw her body in the river. One jumped into the Wye and swam to the body, while the other waded in from the side and helped to bring it to the bank.
In reply to questions, Mr Jones, the husband, said he knew of no danger until struck, and did not leave the pavement.
Charles Henry Vick, a motor driver, said that on 13th March he saw Mr and Mrs Jones walking on the pavement arm in arm. Immediately afterwards he saw a motor-car coming down the Gloucester Road. It had fairly good lights and witness estimated its speed at about 20 miles an hour. After passing him it met the pavement and crashed into the railings.
The Coroner: What about Mrs Jones?-Witness: I did not see her.
If a car was coming down at 20 miles, don't you consider that too fast?-Yes, but I think the main cause of the accident was the poor lighting on the bridge.
Albert E Page, another motor-driver, of Tutshill, said that after the accident one of the rear wheels of the car was hanging over the bridge and the front was lying against a lamp standard.
Asked by the Coroner if he thought 20 miles an hour too fast to take the corner at the bottom, witness replied in the affirmative.
A Dangerous Bridge
Mr N. Howell (for the driver): What is your opinion of the bridge in its present unlighted condition?-I should say it is dangerous.
Do you think a car would have any difficulty in negotiating this bridge if it was properly lighted?-No.
Clifford Jackson (17), of Rumney, the driver of the car, said that he slowed down at the approach to the bridge to between 10 and 12 miles, and noticed two persons. The man was partially in the road, and as he got near Mr Jones he tried to pull his wife with him further into the road. They hesitated and he tried to avoid them by turning to the left and jammed on his brakes, but it was too late and he crashed into them. He could have done nothing more to avoid the accident.
The Coroner: I put it to you that you failed to get across the bridge because you were going too fast around the corner?-I slowed down.
P. S. Beale said that he thought that an illuminated warning sign at the approach to the bridge would be an advantage, and the lighting arrangements could also be improved.
Dr. C. C. B. Thompson gave the cause of death as shock due to severe injuries, and accelerated by immersion in the river.
Driver's Employers Censured
The jury returned a verdict of "Accidental Death." The driver was exonerated from blame, but the jury asked the Coroner to censure the employers, Messrs Hinton and Britton, of Cardiff, for sending a lad of so little experience on such a long night journey.
They also recommended the erection of a luminous danger sign at the Gloucestershire approach to the footbridge, and commended the bravery of Mr Arthur James and his brother.
Death by accident on Wye Bridge 1929
by marksbonner, Friday, May 08, 2015, 20:52 (3559 days ago) @ Paul Andrews
Yes please Paul.
How strange that you were probably composing this as I was posting my reply that this was my great grandmother.
2 of the daughters are still alive today.
Death by accident on Wye Bridge 1929
by Paul Andrews , Shropshire, England, Saturday, May 09, 2015, 10:01 (3559 days ago) @ marksbonner
I have amended my previous post to include the full report.
Death by accident on Wye Bridge 1929
by marksbonner, Friday, May 08, 2015, 18:27 (3559 days ago) @ marywilliams
This is my great grandmother
Death by accident on Wye Bridge 1929
by marywilliams , Chepstow, Monday, December 28, 2015, 08:08 (3326 days ago) @ marksbonner
This is my great grandmother
Here here I am again, still trying to fill in the many gaps in my tree. I believe my great grandmother Margaret Jones (Lewis) brought up Evelyn's three daughters. I am in my sixties now but I can well remember my great granny. I was about six or seven and I had never seen anyone so old before. She lived with her daughter, Archies sister Jessie Margaret and son in law, Gordon Leonard Jones in Grahamstown Road, Sedbury where she used to sit knitting socks on four tiny knitting needles. Any information about the girls or family would be greatly appreciated.
Death by accident on Wye Bridge 1929
by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Monday, December 28, 2015, 23:42 (3325 days ago) @ marywilliams
"She lived with her daughter, Archies sister Jessie Margaret and son in law, Gordon Leonard Jones in Grahamstown Road, Sedbury where she used to sit knitting socks on four tiny knitting needles. Any information about the girls or family would be greatly appreciated."
Hi Mary,
to start with I'm just trying to clarify the names you mention, as you don't give ages or dates, by reading thro' your old threads. I see Slowhands was his usual great help, but sadly he doesn't seem to use the forum any more, so we must start from scratch to some extent. I'm hoping I have the correct people, but please can you confirm this, or not ?.
1) You mention Gordon Leonard Jones, forgive me but did you perhaps mean George Leonard Jones, as per your previous thread ? see
http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=13517
This thread gave his 1901 Census details;
1901 Beaucliff,Boughspring, Dennel Hill ( near the tunnel)
Williams Jones abt 1869 Staunton On Wye, Gloucestershire, England Head Tidenham, Gloucestershire Gardener
Annie Jones abt 1872 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Ellen R Jones abt 1896 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham, Gloucestershire
George L Jones abt 1900 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire
William A Jones abt 1895 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire.
(I hope this is your man, I cannot find any records for a GORDON Leonard Jones within the usual local BMD/PRs websites).
2) Looks like this is your Margaret and children Archie & sister Jessie ?,
Ref your previous thread, "Jesse Margaret JONES 1898 Tutshill", see http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=13518
1901 Tutshill
George Jones abt 1863 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Head Tidenham, Gloucestershire Quarryman
Margaret Jones abt 1865 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Archibald Jones abt 1896 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Bartie Jones abt 1894 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Jessie Jones abt 1898 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Willie Chas Jones abt 1888 Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Sarah Price abt 1848 London, England Boarder Tidenham, Gloucestershire
I'm afraid I cannot access the 1911 Census at this time, hopefully someone else can for both above households. However I can find these Records from the excellent GlosBMD & FreeBMD sites, plus this FoD site's PRs;
Birth Details
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
JONES Archibald Lewis JONES JONES LEWIS 1895 Forest of Dean Chepstow, Lydney 23 193
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx
FreeBMD confirms Birth was registered in Jan/Feb/March quarter. http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Record_ID: 102628
Entry_Number: 649
Year: 1895
Month: Apr
Day: 21
Parents_Surname: JONES
Child_Forenames: Archibald Lewis
Fathers_Forenames: George
Mothers_Forenames: Margaret
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Tutshill
Occupation: Quarryman
Officiating_Minister: FC Bland
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born Feb 6
Notes:
Register_Reference: P333/2 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 82
Parish_Chapel: Tutshill
Soundex: J520
This looks like might be his Marriage, from FreeBMD;
Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1921 (>99%)
Jones Archibald L Ward Chepstow 11a 17
Ward Evelyn M Jones Chepstow 11a 17
And his Death (and precise Birth), from FreeBMD;
Surname First name(s) DoB District Vol Page
Deaths Dec 1969 (>99%)
JONES Archibald Lewis 6Fe1895 F.of Dean 7b 1056
As you know, again from FreeBMD;
Deaths Jun 1929 (>99%)
Jones Evelyn M 25 Chepstow 11a 3
Birth Details
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
JONES Jessie Margaret JONES JONES LEWIS 1898 Forest of Dean Chepstow, Lydney 24 445
FreeBMD confirms Birth was registered in Jan/Feb/March quarter.
Marriage Details
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
JONES George Leonard JONES Jessie Margaret Forest of Dean Tidenham St Mary and St Peter 1917 3 29
(Continued next post, hope this looks OK so far, Jeff)
Family of George Leonard & Jessie Margaret JONES, Tutshill.
by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 01:57 (3325 days ago) @ Jefff
From this FoD site's PRs, their children;
Record_ID: 1035048
Entry_Number: 359
Year: 1918
Month: Jun
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: JONES
Child_Forenames: Margaret Annis
Fathers_Forenames: George Leonard
Mothers_Forenames: Jessie Margaret
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: 6 Post Office Row Tutshill
Occupation: Rope Runner
Officiating_Minister: R P Steer (Vicar)
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P333/2 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 45
Parish_Chapel: Tutshill
Soundex: J520
Record_ID: 1035115
Entry_Number: 426
Year: 1921
Month: Jan
Day: 30
Parents_Surname: JONES
Child_Forenames: Leslie Gordon
Fathers_Forenames: George Leonard
Mothers_Forenames: Jessie Margaret
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: 2 Post Office Row Tutshill
Occupation: Crane Driver
Officiating_Minister: R Oscroft-Jones
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P333/2 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 54
Parish_Chapel: Tutshill
Soundex: J520
Record_ID: 1053237
Entry_Number: 468
Year: 1922
Month: Oct
Day: 3
Parents_Surname: JONES
Child_Forenames: Jessie Eleanor
Fathers_Forenames: George Leonard
Mothers_Forenames: Jessie Margaret
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Tutshill
Occupation: Crane Driver
Officiating_Minister: H J Forward
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born 11 Sept
Notes:
Register_Reference: P333/2 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 59
Parish_Chapel: Tutshill
Soundex: J520
Possible marriage for Margaret ??,
Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1958 (>99%)
JONES Margaret A POWELL F.of Dean 7b 590
POWELL Alan V JONES F.Of Dean 7b 590
However it seems this may not be our Margaret, as GlosBMD has;
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
POWELL Alan Vivian JONES Margaret Ann Forest of Dean Lydney St Mary the Virgin 1958 8 41
(HOWEVER, IS HER SECOND NAME DEFINITELY ANNIS ?, I SUGGEST YOU ASK THIS FoD SITE TO CHECK HER BAPTISM PR.)
Here's Leslie, but I cannot find Jessie on any site;
Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1942 (>99%)
Ford Florence M Jones Chepstow 11a 6
Jones Leslie G Ford Chepstow 11a 6
I hope this is of interest, altho I'd be grateful if you can clarify all the names you're looking to research, eg you say "girls" but only seem to mention Jessie ?.
Normally I would also suggest you send a direct message to poster Mark S Bonner, but I cannot see an envelope icon next to his username, so ??.
Thanks, Jeff.
Family of George Leonard & Jessie Margaret JONES, Tutshill.
by admin , Forest of Dean, Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 08:44 (3325 days ago) @ Jefff
Possible marriage for Margaret ??,
Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1958 (>99%)
JONES Margaret A POWELL F.of Dean 7b 590
POWELL Alan V JONES F.Of Dean 7b 590However it seems this may not be our Margaret, as GlosBMD has;
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
POWELL Alan Vivian JONES Margaret Ann Forest of Dean Lydney St Mary the Virgin 1958 8 41(HOWEVER, IS HER SECOND NAME DEFINITELY ANNIS ?, I SUGGEST YOU ASK THIS FoD SITE TO CHECK HER BAPTISM PR.)
Margaret Ann JONES who married Alan Vivian POWELL was not the daughter of George Leonard JONES and therefore can be eliminated from your researches.
Admin
Family of George Leonard & Jessie Margaret JONES, Tutshill.
by shepway , Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 09:06 (3325 days ago) @ Jefff
From Ancestry:
Name: Margaret Annie Jones
Birth Year: abt 1919
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 25 Feb 1936
Age: 17
Spouse: Bernard Gordon Nichols
Father: George Leonard Jones
Event Type: Marriage
Parish: Tidenham, Gloucestershire
Margaret died in 1952:
Name: Margaret Ann Nichols
Birth Year: abt 1918
Death Year: abt 1952
Death Age: 34
Burial Date: 24 Jan 1952
Parish: Tutshill, Gloucestershire, England
Name: Margaret A Nichols
Birth Date: abt 1918
Date of Registration: Mar 1952
Age at Death: 34
Registration district: Newport
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 8c
Page: 232
Mike
Family of George Leonard & Jessie Margaret JONES, Tutshill.
by marywilliams , Chepstow, Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 09:35 (3325 days ago) @ shepway
Thank you so much for this. This is my dads sister who died young apparently but none of the family are left to help me find details. You have given me her married name so I can now search for her death too. It was her Aunt who was killed in the Bridge in 1929. Thank you so much for your interest. This site is a fantastic resource and a brilliant forum.
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Mary
Family of George Leonard & Jessie Margaret JONES, Tutshill.
by marywilliams , Chepstow, Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 09:40 (3325 days ago) @ Jefff
Oh bless you. Yes, it's George Leonard. My dad was Leslie Gordon, hence the mistake. I seem to have come to a dead end here. I have William as George Leonard's father but can't find any evidence. Jessie Margaret is mistranscribed as Jane on her marriage to Leonard. He was always known as Len and she as Dot.
Thank you so much. My mothers side were, Braces, Fords and Windmills so you can see how much easier that was!
Record_ID: 1035048
Entry_Number: 359
Year: 1918
Month: Jun
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: JONES
Child_Forenames: Margaret Annis
Fathers_Forenames: George Leonard
Mothers_Forenames: Jessie Margaret
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: 6 Post Office Row Tutshill
Occupation: Rope Runner
Officiating_Minister: R P Steer (Vicar)
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P333/2 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 45
Parish_Chapel: Tutshill
Soundex: J520Record_ID: 1035115
Entry_Number: 426
Year: 1921
Month: Jan
Day: 30
Parents_Surname: JONES
Child_Forenames: Leslie Gordon
Fathers_Forenames: George Leonard
Mothers_Forenames: Jessie Margaret
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: 2 Post Office Row Tutshill
Occupation: Crane Driver
Officiating_Minister: R Oscroft-Jones
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P333/2 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 54
Parish_Chapel: Tutshill
Soundex: J520Record_ID: 1053237
Entry_Number: 468
Year: 1922
Month: Oct
Day: 3
Parents_Surname: JONES
Child_Forenames: Jessie Eleanor
Fathers_Forenames: George Leonard
Mothers_Forenames: Jessie Margaret
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Tutshill
Occupation: Crane Driver
Officiating_Minister: H J Forward
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born 11 Sept
Notes:
Register_Reference: P333/2 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 59
Parish_Chapel: Tutshill
Soundex: J520Possible marriage for Margaret ??,
Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1958 (>99%)
JONES Margaret A POWELL F.of Dean 7b 590
POWELL Alan V JONES F.Of Dean 7b 590However it seems this may not be our Margaret, as GlosBMD has;
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
POWELL Alan Vivian JONES Margaret Ann Forest of Dean Lydney St Mary the Virgin 1958 8 41(HOWEVER, IS HER SECOND NAME DEFINITELY ANNIS ?, I SUGGEST YOU ASK THIS FoD SITE TO CHECK HER BAPTISM PR.)
Here's Leslie, but I cannot find Jessie on any site;
Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1942 (>99%)
Ford Florence M Jones Chepstow 11a 6
Jones Leslie G Ford Chepstow 11a 6I hope this is of interest, altho I'd be grateful if you can clarify all the names you're looking to research, eg you say "girls" but only seem to mention Jessie ?.
Normally I would also suggest you send a direct message to poster Mark S Bonner, but I cannot see an envelope icon next to his username, so ??.Thanks, Jeff.
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Mary
Family of George Leonard & Jessie Margaret JONES, Tutshill.
by shepway , Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 13:34 (3325 days ago) @ Jefff
We know from her baptism that Jessie Eleanor was born on 11 September 1922. Using this date and searching the death registrations on Ancestry we get the following:
Name: Jessie Eleanor Pearce
Birth Date: 11 Sep 1922
Date of Registration: Aug 2006
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: -1
Page: -1
Register Number: B1D
District and Subdistrict: 488/1B
Entry Number: 110
This leads us to this marriage:
Marriages Mar 1942
Jones Jessie E Pearce Cheltenham 6a 1236
Pearce Percy E W Jones Cheltenham 6a 1236
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
PEARCE Percy Ernest Walter JONES Jessie Eleanor Cheltenham Cheltenham Register Office 1942 6A 250
and this would appear to be Percy's birth registration:
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
PEARCE Percy E W PEARCE PEARCE TURNER 1917 Cheltenham Cheltenham, Cheltenham 37A 47
Mike
Family of George Leonard & Jessie Margaret JONES, Tutshill.
by marywilliams , Chepstow, Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 14:24 (3325 days ago) @ shepway
Thank you so much. This is plenty to get me going again. I so appreciate everyone's help.
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Mary
Family of George Leonard & Jessie Margaret JONES, Tutshill.
by shepway , Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 15:14 (3325 days ago) @ marywilliams
To help you further and take the line back in time.
From the Marriage record we are told that George Leonard JONES was 18 and his wife Jane Margaret was 19.
The Civil Registration tells us that Jane should read Jessie:
Marriages Dec 1917
Jones George L Jones Chepstow 11a 21
Jones Jessie M Jones Chepstow 11a 21
Now back to the Marriage transcript:
We have the following witnesses:
G Jones, Ellen Ruth Jones and A.D Jones.
This helps us pinpoint George Leonard in Census returns and here is a transcript of the 1901 Census:
Beaucliff, Tidenham.
Household Number Name Relation to Head Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Birth Place
96 William Jones Head 32 1869 Male Staunton on Wye, Gloucestershire, England
96 Annie Jones Wife 29 1872 Female Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England
96 William A Jones Son 6 1895 Male Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England
96 Ellen R Jones Daughter 5 1896 Female Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England
96 George L Jones Son 1 1900 Male Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England
96 Sarah Price Boarder 53 1848 Female London, England
William Jones’s occupation is Gardener
Also Ellen Ruth's baptism is to be found in the Parish Records:
Year: 1896
Month: Mar
Day: 1
Parents_Surname: JONES
Child_Forenames: Ellen Ruth
Fathers_Forenames: William Henry
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Tidenham
Occupation: Groom
Officiating_Minister: Donald Moore
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: (Born Jan 3 1896)
Notes:
Register_Reference: P333/1 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 80
Parish_Chapel: Tidenham
So George Leonard's parents are William Henry and Ann JONES and this is the Marriage record:
Year: 1894
Month: Feb
Day: 5
Grooms_Surname: JONES
Grooms_Forenames: William Henry
Grooms_Age: 25
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Gardener
Grooms_Residence: Tidenham
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Jones
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Timber haulier deceased
Brides_Surname: JENKINS
Brides_Forenames: Ann
Brides_Age: 23
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Tidenham
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Jenkins
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Kedgwin
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: both sign
Witness_1: Kedgwin Jenkins
Witness_2: Ruth Jenkins
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: John A Stafford Hilliard Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P333 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 216
Parish_Chapel: Tidenham
Finally George Leonard and Jessie were in Lydney area at time of the 1939 Register:
1939 Register:
Jones Household
Lydney R.D., Gloucestershire, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) BIRTH YEAR
George L Jones 1899
Jessie M Jones 1898
4 more people who are officially closed
Mike
Death by accident on Wye Bridge 1929
by shepway , Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 13:19 (3325 days ago) @ marywilliams
Archibald Lewis JONES married Evelyn Mary WARD sometime after 30 October 1921. Banns (available on Ancestry) were read on 16, 23 & 30 October and Evelyn is described as a Spinster from the Parish of Portskewett. Details of her baptism can be found on Mongenes as follows:
Parish or Chapel Portskewett
Date 20 Jul 1903
Parent's Surname WARD
Child's forename(s) Evelyn Mary
Father's forename(s) William Edward
Mother's forename(s) Mary
Mother's surname (if different)
Type of Event Baptism
Residence Rogiet
(Father's) Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister
Memoranda in register
Transcriber's Notes
Gwent record office
register ref. number LDS/PA 33
Parish register entry no.
Parish register page no.
Record_ID 153669
Transcription Portskewett Baptisms 1891-1913
Transcribers entry no. 302
This is the marriage from FreeBMD:
Marriages Dec 1921
Jones Archibald L Ward Chepstow 11a 17
Ward Evelyn M Jones Chepstow 11a 17
A search for children produces the following possibles:
Births Jun 1922
Jones Evelyn M Ward Chepstow 11a 7
Births Dec 1923
Jones Rosalie J Ward Chepstow 11a 16
Births Jun 1925
Jones Margaret M Ward Chepstow 11a 25
Births Jun 1927
Jones Hazel E Ward Chepstow 11a 17
and a search of the Parish Records on this site confirms three of them:
This is the baptism of Margaret Maureen:
Year: 1925
Month: Jun
Day: 14
Parents_Surname: JONES
Child_Forenames: Margaret Maureen
Fathers_Forenames: Archibald Lewis
Mothers_Forenames: Evelyn Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: The Bungalow
Occupation: Haulage Contractor
Officiating_Minister: D M V Gashing
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born May 29
Notes:
Register_Reference: P333/2 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 65
Parish_Chapel: Tutshill
This is the marriage of Hazel Elizabeth:
Year: 1945
Month: Aug
Day: 17
Grooms_Surname: BONNER
Grooms_Forenames: George Penman
Grooms_Age: 23
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Soldier
Grooms_Residence: 29 Rhindmuir Avenue Baillieston Glasgow
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Bonner
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James Templeton
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Hulch Mender
Brides_Surname: JONES
Brides_Forenames: Hazel Elizabeth
Brides_Age: 18
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: A.T.S.
Brides_Residence: 6 Coleford Road Tutshill Chepstow
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Jones
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Archibald Lewis
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Provision Grocer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both signed
Witness_1: Bertie Reginald Jones
Witness_2: Evelyn Mary Jones
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: George R Newman Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: In this record unsure of grooms address & both father's occupations also witness has name listed as Bertie unsure if this is Albert or Herbert left at Bertie
Register_Reference: P333/1 IN 1/11
Page_Number: 48
Parish_Chapel: Tidenham
and Evelyn Mary is a witness but I have not been able to find a marriage for her.
A descendant of the BONNER/JONES marriage has already indicated in this thread that he is connected.
Mike
Death by accident on Wye Bridge 1929
by shepway , Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 14:20 (3325 days ago) @ shepway
In an earlier posting I stated that Margaret Annie JONES married Bernard Gordon NICHOLS and that she died in 1952. Since then I have established that Bernard married Evelyn Mary JONES shortly afterwards:
Marriages Sep 1952
JONES Evelyn M NICHOLS F.of Dean 7b 978
NICHOLS Bernard G JONES F.of Dean 7b 978
and that Evelyn died in 2005:
Name: Evelyn Mary Nichols
Birth Date: 8 Apr 1922
Date of Registration: Sep 2005
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Newport
Inferred County: Glamorgan, Monmouthshire, Shropshire, Staffordshire
Register Number: C108C
District and Subdistrict: 836/1C
Entry Number: 140
Bernard died in 1997:
Name: Bernard Gordon Nichols
Birth Date: 10 Feb 1912
Date of Registration: Jun 1997
Age at Death: 85
Registration district: Forest of Dean
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Register Number: 36
District and Subdistrict: 4821
Entry Number: 51
Mike
Death by accident on Wye Bridge 1929
by marywilliams , Chepstow, Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 20:27 (3324 days ago) @ shepway
Im a bit confused. I didn't know that Bernard remarried, but are you saying he married his wifes first cousin, Evelyn, who was the daughter of Evelyn Jones who was killed on the Wye Bridge in 1929? Can you give me details or tell me where I can find them.
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Mary
Death by accident on Wye Bridge 1929
by shepway , Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 20:51 (3324 days ago) @ marywilliams
It would appear to be the case.
We have this entry from Gloucestershire BMD Indexes
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
NICHOLS Bernard Gordon JONES Evelyn Mary Forest of Dean Forest of Dean Register Office Closed 1952 17 154
and the death of Evelyn in 2005:
Name: Evelyn Mary Nichols
Birth Date: 8 Apr 1922
Date of Registration: Sep 2005
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Newport
Inferred County: Glamorgan, Monmouthshire, Shropshire, Staffordshire
Register Number: C108C
District and Subdistrict: 836/1C
Entry Number: 140
This gives her date of birth as 8 April 1922.
This is Evelyn's birth registration:
Births Jun 1922
Jones Evelyn M Ward Chepstow 11a 7
This tells us that she was born in the 3 months ended 30 June 1922 so we have a good match.
There is only one way to be certain and that is to order the marriage certificate from GRO online and you will need the following details:
Marriages Sep 1952
JONES Evelyn M NICHOLS F.of Dean 7b 978
NICHOLS Bernard G JONES F.of Dean 7b 978
Mike